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re: KDB quietly rebuilding a defense centered team

Posted on 7/31/26 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 1:30 pm to
CKW does mix in a fair share of man coverage, but their pattern match with spot drops out of both single-high and split/safety coverages have been extremely successful.

Bama’s pass defense has finished #1 in the SEC and top5 in the country over the past two seasons while also ranking top10 in PBU’s and interceptions.

You really see the value in a lot of the “midpointing” they incorporate out of a single-high looks against teams like Tennessee that gave CNS fits (and still does to Kirby). Another good example is when they just about played man coverage exclusively against Vandy in Year 1, compared to the “spot dropping” and mixing up close to have a dozen single-high coverages that all look the same to an offense. Brian Kelly spoke about the confusion it causes and how difficult it can make things for a QB in his post-game conference after Bama intercepted them 3 times.

They also have allowed the fewest completions of 30 yards or more in all of CFB over the past two seasons. I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone anywhere who would criticize the pass defense. It’s about as elite as you are going to get.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 2:53 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 7:30 pm to
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I am looking more forward to this season than I have in a long while. I know NIL/Portal have changed the sport, but I still love watching good defense and I think we will finally get to see a fully capable CKD offense.


I think we have all the pieces and I hope we put them together. I’m excited to see it in action.
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:07 am to
LB’s in this scheme are meant to be fast sideline to sideline guys who can run. It’s very similar to OU and Venebles who basically wants 3 Down-techs at 315+, a true Mike LB, with essentially 7 DB’s on the field. It’s why Jefferson stood out so much in this defense despite being undersized….he was a thumper who could run and he was excellent in coverage.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:19 am to
So, Woodson in that spot?

We definitely have 7 DBs that can play at a high level.

Im high on a lot of those guys. I expect more rotation back there too.
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:28 am to
Woodson is wearing the “Dot” right now as the Weakside LB that Jefferson played last year, and Q.B. Reese stays in the Box at all times unless it’s an obvious passing situation…
then Woodson is the only true LB to stay on the field.

Griffin and Duke Johnson are the two to watch out for imo, and Abdullah Sanders would be a darkhorse.

Again, those guys can really run and cover. CKW is different in that he uses more stunts/blitz/pressures to stop the RUN on early downs (similar to Venables at OU), and plays coverage with pass rushers on the field and DB types at LB (Jefferson and Brey Hubbard last year) in obvious passing situations/3rd down.

I think it’s no coincidence that Bama and OU have finished at the top of the league in fewest yards and points allowed while they both force a lot of turnovers. A lot of similarities in their style of play.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 5:36 am
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:38 am to
LINK

- The last time CKD had his own QB and WR corps^^^^^^^

- Bama fans ESPECIALLY need to watch this to understand what CKD is trying to do offensively….its not the inability to run the ball, its the inability to create favorable numbers in the Box/near the LOS to run the ball against that is the problem.

- notice all the vertical/downfield shots.
UW was #1 in the nation in passes attempted and completed where the ball traveled 40+ yards. CKD’s offenses have always ranked near the top in the country every year of his career in this area. At Alabama last year, they completed 6 such passes for the SEASON. At UW they completed 7 balls of 40+ against Texas in the Semifinal game ALONE

- Bama has looked HORRIBLE trying to throw these same concepts….balls landing out of bounds are 10 yards over-thrown, sloppy route-running, WR’s who cannot separate 1-on-1 or go up to make plays on the ball, etc etc etc
I honestly do t think you could’ve a worse group of WRs and QB’s together to run this offense than what CKD inherited at Bama. Notice how Bernard and Cuevas were by far our best playmakers in the passing game. That wasn’t a fluke.

- Fans/Media are all focused on the run game, and that has absolutely nothing to do with the success of the offense. It is and has always been the problem these first two years at Bama under CKD, and that’s the DOWNFIELD passing game. It’s been non-existent to the point they rarely tried it due to the personnel (Milroe averaged barely 20 passes per game total).

- The vertical/downfield passing game is what unlocks everything in this offense including the running game. CKD had the 2nd team all Big10 RB while at Indiana. When defenses hsve to account for an offense’s ability to stretch the field vertically at all times, then it forces 2-high/split Safety coverage and that gives the offense the numbers at the LOS to run the ball without having to strictly overpower teams like Georgia who are just as big and strong.

- It also unlocks the Intermediate passing game that Ty excelled at for the first 8 weeks before defenses closed off the MOF with single-high/1-high Safety coverages that featured a lot of man coverage as well.

- Get the vertical passing game going and the run game will take care of itself.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 5:11 am
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:30 am to
Russell seems like a perfect fit for that system. He can throw bombs. Mack can too. I have more concern with the WRs.
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:48 am to
Yes, they both have the touch required to throw the ball accurately downfield.

I agree with your assessment concerning the WR’s as well. The good news is that you only need ONE alpha that cannot be covered 1-on-1 (specifically against press-man coverage).

Bottomline, RW needs to be that guy, and absolutely possesses the skill level to do it. He has been used in the slot and thrown a lot of balls in-between the hashes/MOF, and that was simply bc they could not get him the ball vertically when he aligned out-wide on the numbers (where he belongs).

He was playing out of position and it showed. He did have 800+ yards as a TF when defenses had to play a lot of split safety zone coverage to give Milroe problems bc of his lack of ability to work through his progression and also to allow 2nd level defenders to keep their eyes on him to prevent Milroe from hurting you with his feet.

That is why RW’s and the offense’s production dropped dramatically in the back 1/3 of the schedule, just like it did this past season with Ty, but for drastically different reasons.

RW, C Morgan and Noah Rogers (drastically underrated) are the 3 that possess the skill set necessary. We need one of them to step up.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 11:15 am
Posted by Refrigeraider
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:29 pm to
If RW lines up in the slot, idk. Retarded.
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:40 pm to
Last year Ty couldn’t get it outside the hash so they played him inside to try and get him opportunities.

Think about it, he had double the output as a 17 year old TF with Milroe compared to Ty at QB.

He will be back out-wide on the numbers next year Everett he belongs. He’s a home run/vertical threat that needs a QB whole can get him the ball down the field and outside the hashes.

His “drops over the MOF got led to a lot of criticism from fans and media, but that’s not what he does. Amari Cooper, Jerry Jeudy, Henry Ruggs, etc all played out/wide on the numbers (barring
the occasional motion). RW is better than alll those guys.

Even Bama fans don’t know how insanely talented tes this kid is. Watch his 800yd+ season at 17 years old with Milroe throwing him the football, and you won’t see drops, instead you will see a long highlight reel of circus catches and making would-be tacklers look silly. The guy is exactly who this offense needs split-out outside the hash s/on the numbers and take 6-7 shots with every single game.

At least Milroe gave him the opportunity to make the game-winning play vs UGA, even though it was terribly under thrown. There are Bama fans who honestly think he’s not that good. He’s a top-15 pick right now. No DC wants to deal with him 1-on-1 outside the hash. He’s a rare talent but drops over the MOF from Ty’s howitzer have fans really doubting the guy.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 2:24 am
Posted by Refrigeraider
Member since Jan 2026
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:58 pm to
I never considered the concept that RW was in the slot because the QB was inept/weak in the vertical pass game. I just hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense. He needs to be a 3 route tree guy.
Go, Deep Dig/Dagger, Deep Post.

This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 12:00 am
Posted by Cover1Key
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:02 am to
Exactly. And get him 5-6 touches every week on tunnel/slip/quick screens/Jets/etc…where he gets the ball in his hands immediately at the LOS and force DB’s to tackle him

LINK

This ^^^^ is where he belongs and why he will be All-Pro

Notice where almost every big play takes place….outside the hashes and aligned as a true #1. Putting him in the slot to run Digs over the MOF is gross negligence except for the fact that the QB can’t throw it outside the hashes without RW having to make a circus catch.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 12:11 am
Posted by Refrigeraider
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:08 am to
Hand the fricking ball off to him if you gotta.
Posted by Cover1Key
Member since Dec 2025
321 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:15 am to
Yes. The guy makes UGA’s Secondary look like clowns over and over. He’s the most difficult player to get on the ground (or touch) for that matter, that I’ve ever seen. He’s an absolute freak and will finally get the opportunity to show what he’s capable of when he’s playing where he belongs (split out) with a QB who can throw the ball past 30 yards with touch on it.

He’s a TRUE Gump or he would be playing for whoever he wanted to making wayyyy more NIL than at Bama and being an All l-American by this point .
One my favorite Bama players, especially in this NIL/Portal era
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 12:18 am
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

- Fans/Media are all focused on the run game, and that has absolutely nothing to do with the success of the offense. It is and has always been the problem these first two years at Bama under CKD, and that’s the DOWNFIELD passing game. It’s been non-existent to the point they rarely tried it due to the personnel (Milroe averaged barely 20 passes per game total).

- The vertical/downfield passing game is what unlocks everything in this offense including the running game. CKD had the 2nd team all Big10 RB while at Indiana. When defenses hsve to account for an offense’s ability to stretch the field vertically at all times, then it forces 2-high/split Safety coverage and that gives the offense the numbers at the LOS to run the ball without having to strictly overpower teams like Georgia who are just as big and strong.


I don't disagree with any of this. However, if the success of the entire offense is that dependent on one aspect of it working or not, then we're in trouble. An offense has to be able to "dribble left handed" when what they do best is taken away. It's what separates teams that compete for championships from teams that don't. Regardless of the passing concepts and alignments that go with it, a team who wants to compete for championships better be able to pivot and go to another weapon in their arsenal that allows them to still compete at a high level from game to game, opponent to opponent. Which plays into what seemingly has been lost at Alabama for several years (even in Saban's last few years) and that's the ability to just line up and physically win at the LOS. Each game is a life of it's own and in some games teams are going to take away the scheming and force us to beat them "man on man", "let's see who's the most physical team". Then in some games, the game is going to require outscheming the other team and not require "out physicaling" the other team.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:23 pm to
Yea. Taking “shots downfield” to loosen up a defense is one thing, but strictly needing deep passes to be successful is not a good recipe and is not the entire focus . Deep pass completion percentages are pretty low across the board for most teams
Posted by Cover1Key
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:02 pm to
So, what would a triple option team pivot to if they were not having success?

What did Leach pivot to of the air raid struggled?

ANY good offense has an identity that they are trying to impose on the defense.

Heupel and Tennessee is a perfect example of taking 15+ vertical shots (sometimes 20+) in a single game, in order to dictate to the defense where their Safeties will align along with the splits of the WR’s. Sometimes they connect on a lot of these throws (5 of them for TDs vs Golding/Saban all to the same WR running the same exact Sail route lol), or how Kirby and UGA can never keep them under 40 points and close to 400 in the air.

But they are not living and dying by how many they connect on. Same as the criticism CNO gets in basketball from idiots claiming he “lives and dies by the three”.

CKD has always had a crazy high % of completions on downfield passes of 30-40+ yards. But even if it’s a 4-16 day like UW vs Oregon when he was facing Lanning’s defense for the 2nd ribbon 4 weeks, but did throw for close to 400 yards (might’ve been like 400+), bc they destroyed them with the TE’s RB’s and slot WRs with the intermediate passing game since Lanning was hellbent on not giving up the deep ball like in the first matchup. They also threw double digit perimeter screens as well vs CBs playing with a lot of pre-snap depth.

So, it’s not like CKD’s goal is to chunk 40 bombs and hope for the best now that he has his personnel…..it’s to stretch the field to hopefully catch some of them, but more importantly prevent defenses from defending the intermediate game like we saw defenses do to Ty after week 7 or 8.

It’s also to open up the perimeter screens and using the TE over the MOF much like an RPO team uses a slot WRs.

There are certainly “Answers” in the offense for when the “three’s are not falling”.

Hope this helps some.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Cover1Key
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:06 pm to
Not at all.

Just like any knowledgeable basketball fan knows that CNO does not “live or die by the 3”, like the media would have you believe, despite shooting the most in the country some years.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:16 pm to
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