re: Is golding still terrible?

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And those analysts can't actually be involved on gameday. Can't be on the headsets, etc.

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Again, never said Pete wasn't making the calls. Never said an analyst was making the calls on gamedays. Only said he was getting help.

Just so I am clear, is your position that analysts cannot be involved in gameday prep with assistants aiding in in-game calling?

I seem to recall that Alabama has made a name for itself with the number of analysts the program has hired, to aid it doing just this.

I also seem to recall that the role of an analyst is to perform the legwork of reviewing opposing teams, providing insight as to strategy, formations, and pitching ideas and concepts as to how to gameplan, which includes countering /attacking certain looks and making adjustments based on certain circumstances, as well as self-scout and present ideas as to how to alter/improve/correct internal deficiencies.

If you know something different, please share. I think you'd be interested in reading this, as it provides good insight:

What's an analyst do on a college football staff? Missouri staffers talk . . .

From the article:

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Q: What’s your role on game day?

A: I stand as far away from the ball as I can with a little notecard and a wet erase pen and I write a note or two on every snap that occurs with our call in mind and with the structure of what the offense does in mind. If there’s something I need to get in the staff between series I get that to them. There’s a couple ways I’ve done that. I’ve gone to one of our younger coaches and said, ‘Are we talking about A, B and C? Because these are the three things that came up in that series. We lost an edge. We had a guy running free in Cover 2. And we had a bad blitz track.’ If (defensive grad assistant) Grant (O’Brien) gives me the thumbs up that we’re covering those things as we speak I know I can move on, erase my card and get ready for the next series. If it’s something I need to get to (defensive coordinator) Ryan (Walters) specifically, ‘Hey, don’t forget you’re now in this situation: It’s a heavy run-pass tendency in this direction,’ then I can get that to them before the next series.

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Might want to be careful on the "etc." part of your statement without knowing more about the subject.

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And there is the answer I don’t think he knew.

Of all the on the field coaches, Sal was a terrible DC at Tennessee and Scott was a DC at ULL for one season.

Charles Kelly is the only one with meaningful P5 DC experience and his best defense at FSU finished 18th nationally.

So, your choices are:

A Bama assistant with no previously shown exceptional DC prowess has turned out to be some type of savant that is whispering into Golding’s and Saban’s ears.

Bama is blatantly breaking the rules by allowing analysts to participate in live, in-game play calling.

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A team with a lot of really talented but very young players has grown over the season, the staff has learned what they do well and adjusted game strategies to fit them better, and the offensive opponents have gotten a little easier.

As he said, the most likely answer is the right one. Wonder which of the three is the most likely?

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See my response to above poster. Reading and comprehension is key.

Golding was a defensive coordinator at an FBS program for two seasons before being named coordinator at Alabama. Not sure how pointing out that Karl Scott was a coordinator for one season at Louisiana-Lafayette supports your position.

Kelly's defense at Florida State in 2018 did rank 18th in total defense. They gave up 331 yards per game. Golding's defense in 2018 gave up 320 yards per game. In 2019 his defense gave up 324 per game. Again, not sure how minimizing Kelly's best defense supports your argument, when it gave up six more yards on average to that of Golding's defense's most recent complete season.

The choices you have presented are flawed. Restricting the choices to those you presented only ensures that instead of one of us being incorrect, we will both be moving forward.

I fail to see how one cannot accept the idea that Golding may be getting a hand from an assistant during the game. Is this not how Golding himself gained his role a la Tosh and 2018?

I also wonder how the young player assertion supports your position. Mack Wilson wasn't young in 2018. Neither was Thompson. Neither was Lewis. Neither was Miller. Moses already had a year of playing and learning experience under his belt. The defense displayed the same problems in the championship game as those seen in game one. This played out again in 2019.

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As he said, the most likely answer is the right one. Wonder which of the three is the most likely?

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Yes, I do, but I feel like you are legitimately asking because you don't know.

Tackling, penetration, alignment were all much improved. We were owning first down and had Nix's sped up all game. It was almost so good it makes you wonder if we have got some of this motion and shift stuff at the LOS figured out? A blind person can see it's just a much better defensive product since Ole Miss.

Look no further than the run defense. It's night and day better and, dare I say, almost Jeremy Pruitt stifling for our opponents. They can't run the ball on us since Georgia really and that's the bottom line. And it's starting to make our team look like the most overall balanced playoff contender of the bunch.

I feel like our defense is too complicated to run against modern college offenses. Since we have simplified everything and made the calls easier, the defense has played lights out. Guys know where to line up and they are playing fast. Moses is still lost and seems to take plays off but is still an upgrade over Lee. I am really pleased with the defense. Thanks to them we are easily the best football team in America.

I have to say - I was skeptical that we'd make big adjustments to personnel, substitution patterns, and system.

We've done all of those things. The entire defensive staff (and the head coach) deserve kudos for that.

Agree - they've been setting the edge and penetrating. And as you said, they don't drag running backs down, they attack them.

The DL has really grown into what we hoped they would this year after all having to play early last year. And we have a BUNCH of them.

Yes Golding still sucks. The only thing that makes him looks less shitty the last few games is the opponents we have played and our DL and DBs started playing better. Our Lbs are awful and anyone who is smart enough to throw over the middle of the field will still march down the field at will.

He’s still in the “pretty bad” category for me, but the defense has improved. Hopefully, much like players, Golding is improving as the season goes on.

How I feel about him will be judged on how this defense performs against Florida.

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How I feel about him will be judged on how this defense performs against Florida.

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Coach Saban won't even allow himself to run comparisons of past teams and players until he sees what they accomplish at the end of the year. In other words, without the NC, why bring it up? So it goes with the staff. Golding's defense can't be the reason Alabama doesn't cash in on the prize. Fair enough for me.

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If we come out and get torched by Florida and simply have to win a shootout, etc. then I will be ready to move on

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I will know our DC and Saban are finally on the same page,if we go hybrid S?LB or we assigned jobe
or surtain at the money position on Fla 84.
Meaning I would rather jobe, or surtain play on 84 were ever he lines up.
This mixed in with zone will allow us to contain him.
But if the d-line plays like they Did against AU it will be effective because Task will stay more in the pocket.
Also Fla run game is mostly speed backs and wont ware down our d-line.

Task being a pure pocket passer will allow us to zone them more yet mixed with some man.
31,58,50,48,4 makes me like our chances combined with 92,18, 46 as depth.

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Bottom line: our D doesn't seem good enough to stop Clemson.


No D is good enough to stop Clemson. Or Florida. Or us.

Can our D stop Clemson more than they stop us? I think that's certainly possible.

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Clemsons Defense is not as good as years past not even close. We can beat any team the way we are currently playing.