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re: Interesting Tidbit from Aaron Suttles new article...
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:20 pm to doghouse_4x4
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:20 pm to doghouse_4x4
I believed after the UT game, that Tua should have been given regular playing time moving forward. One series each half, or something like it to see if he could begin to separate himself. I think had we done that, Tua may have been the starter by the Auburn game, and things may have been different. In the end, we got it right and won and natty.
That said, Saban needs to make sure that at least behind the scenes, Tua knows he's our QB. I'm fine having a "Hurts package" if he wants to stick around for that....but he just doesn't have "it" as far as being the primary QB for us. We have way too much skill talent to throw for 120 yards a game.
That said, Saban needs to make sure that at least behind the scenes, Tua knows he's our QB. I'm fine having a "Hurts package" if he wants to stick around for that....but he just doesn't have "it" as far as being the primary QB for us. We have way too much skill talent to throw for 120 yards a game.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:33 pm to Tide or Die87
That was also disturbing to me. "The game plan involved running Hurts a lot". Everyone we play is on to that. Plus, it appears that the coaches had just given up on passing the ball with Jalen.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:41 pm to Bamainva40
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jalen was "below average" we'd have dropped more than 1 game. The stuff just goes way over the top sometimes . I'd love to see some people on here debate shank Taylor on the subject because he's been very level headed and recognizes we have 2 valuable assets at the QB position
Dude when you have the absurd amount of talent that we have you can pretty much trot out anybody and win 90 percent of your games. We would have the same record with Danny Etling.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:41 pm to IB4bama
And Daboll had no clue how to call a game with that kind of qb. I didn't even like the way we ran hurts this year
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:43 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Danny etling? Are u serious lol. Let's see good skill talent at LSU ...4 losses. Yeah checks out
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:44 pm to doghouse_4x4
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:46 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I had taken that as people saying no way Saban will replace Hurts even though he should and as a result we will probably lose and not as much as a defense of Hurts.
That was my feeling as well. I always thought that Hurts was doing just enough to not lose games and his job. I just didn’t see Saban benching him easily.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:47 pm to Commander Data
I always love the "anybody can play QB at Bama " argument , it usually comes from other fanbase's though.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:49 pm to 615tider
It all depends what you call better. Sanan seems to value less turnovers over the risk. I'm not a fan of Jalen at all but if Tua throws the pic he did vs Georgia against Clemson who knows the outcome.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:54 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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I never read that anywhere but on this board. I said then it was internet bullshite from a few posters trying to justify why Saban was not playing the better qb.
Jalen Hurts first half vs UGA
No point, no offense, no chance
Tua Tagovailoa 2nd half
26 points, effective and balanced offense, won the game after coming from behind 13-0
I heard it from other folks IRL.
I'm the first to say that Hurts was leaving so many plays on the field in the passing game that I wanted a change to be made, not because of Tua but because of Hurts. (It was also hurting us in recruiting.) I also think we'd have likely had a better chance vs auburn with a QB who would have given us a functioning passing game, but it's simply conjecture.
However, just because Tua played very well, obvious mistakes notwithstanding, in January doesn't mean that he would have performed similarly 2 months prior. It has been reported all over the place that the light really came on for Tua in bowl practices.
My point was simply to play devil's advocate, giving reasons why Saban may have preferred Hurts over Tua (turnovers). But it's faulty, hindsight logic to state that January Tua would've showed up in November. It's simply unknowable and illogical to assert it as fact.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:57 pm to prevatt33
Yeah if we aren't at practice none of us can be so arrogant and proclaim "what was Saban thinking all this time". No way to know what would or wouldn't have happened, it worked out in the proper time.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:09 pm to prevatt33
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It has been reported all over the place that the light really came on for Tua in bowl practices.
That happens a lot with Alabama I feel like and it makes a lot of sense to me. Regular season is so hectic, finish a game, start game-planning for opponent specifics and scheme quickly. Whereas in bowl season practices, particularly freshman players, you get to do more fundamental stuff and benefit from having some real experience in mop up or whatever sense during the season so getting back into the more general / fundamental practices it can really help players start to put it all together in my mind.
Plus a bunch of first team reps for Tua i'm sure helped him improve.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:13 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I can agree with that...Bowl prep is like a head start on spring
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:18 pm to Bamainva40
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I always love the "anybody can play QB at Bama " argument , it usually comes from other fanbase's though.
It's not entirely untrue. Alabama QBs aren't exactly lighting it up in the NFL like players from every other position. It doesn't take much more than average from the QB at Alabama to win games as long as the QB isn't actively losing the game
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:18 pm to mistaken4193
I may be in the minority but I don't think it could've worked out any better. Tua's entrance came at the right time.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:19 pm to prevatt33
Anybody that went to the Bama A-Day game left T-town understand #13 was a much better passer than #2. What we didn't/don't know is how #13 performed in practice or the film room. We have to assume #2 was better. Why did Bo Scarbrough played ahead of the others? Why Tony Brown. Why Cam Sims? Why Hootie Jones. Saban is one loyal guy...a union type guy...seniority rules.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:20 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Boz has said that the last few days. For most of the season Boz was solid in Hurts corner and said it was Jalen's team, there would be no changes till next year or unless Hurts was injured, the issues were with the line and the receivers. Even when it was noted that the receivers were obviously frustrated Boz laughed it off and said everything was honky dory and the team (coaches are certianly part of the team) supported Jalen etc etc etc. Boz gets some info, but he was obviously wrong about Jalen Hurts for most of the year.
I supported the starter, I knew what Daball wanted, hinted at it and knew Saban was going to be the only one to make that call. The receivers did support Jalen however, knew who the better passer was. You can have both. I wasn’t wrong about Hurts, if he was our starter we had to shape a game plan around him, Daball refused to do it, saban wanted to win more in the end. Pretty easy to understand. Don’t come on here beating your chest like you know something. Go check out what I’ve given out this year. So stop the BS name calling shite in its tracks please.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:20 pm to Mobtro
The end results are hard to argue with, i think it worked out well too. UGA didn't seem to know what to do with that type of offense and Auburn was a very tough team in their building at the end of this year.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:21 pm to Commander Data
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Boz said he believed Hurts would start until he graduated and Tua would start one year if he waited his turn. He was wrong about Hurts and pinned the offensive problems on drops, blocking and play calling. Eta that I like Boz and appreciate his posts but a few us knew he was way off base regarding Jalen and that goes for most of you.
That was wayyyyyyyy early on and my OPINION changed. No need for a bitch fest.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:26 pm to Commander Data
I didnt call you an idiot, I said you were acting like one. You are doing it again right now.
I think you truly believe you were banned for your opinion, no matter how ludicrous a proposition that is. You were banned by being ridiculous. Plenty of Tua fans on here, none of them managed to get banned. Wonder why
Edit: And I don't know who you are referring to saying you are right and they are wrong. Hopefully not me because I didn't say anything one way or the other.
I think you truly believe you were banned for your opinion, no matter how ludicrous a proposition that is. You were banned by being ridiculous. Plenty of Tua fans on here, none of them managed to get banned. Wonder why
Edit: And I don't know who you are referring to saying you are right and they are wrong. Hopefully not me because I didn't say anything one way or the other.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 4:29 pm
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