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Interesting comments on Bama QBs
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:10 pm
Bruce Feldman, as part of his weekly CFB podcast with Stewart Mandel, had some interesting comments on multiple current and future Bama QBs from his time spent at the Elite 11 camp. I thought some might enjoy. The pertinent part of the podcast is the first 15-20 minutes or so. FYI, it's the most recent podcast from June 6.
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/fox-sports-network/the-audible/e/54794814
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/fox-sports-network/the-audible/e/54794814
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:13 pm to prevatt33
I stopped at 20 minutes. For folks who don't want to listen and want cliff notes:
1.) Tua & jalen are good representatives of Alabama.
2.)Tua looks small but has an arm. Has wow factor.
3.) Best recruit in the last 5 years. Tua has the best arm. In the last 15 years, JaMarcus Russel and Ryan Mallett.
4.) Jalen Hurts is way more mature than 19 years old due to how he processes getting benched. Went to IMG leadership summit, and said to lead you must love.
5.) Tua asked how do you handle being a leader as a freshman? We play the same game. It's our connection point. Tua keeps things simple and not get entangled.
6.) Taulia looks 3 years younger in terms of his body. He is explosive too.
7.) Tua is far ahead in development compared to Taulia. Taulia is a project.
TL;DR This dude looks plain as frick. Least interesting looking dude of all time.
1.) Tua & jalen are good representatives of Alabama.
2.)Tua looks small but has an arm. Has wow factor.
3.) Best recruit in the last 5 years. Tua has the best arm. In the last 15 years, JaMarcus Russel and Ryan Mallett.
4.) Jalen Hurts is way more mature than 19 years old due to how he processes getting benched. Went to IMG leadership summit, and said to lead you must love.
5.) Tua asked how do you handle being a leader as a freshman? We play the same game. It's our connection point. Tua keeps things simple and not get entangled.
6.) Taulia looks 3 years younger in terms of his body. He is explosive too.
7.) Tua is far ahead in development compared to Taulia. Taulia is a project.
TL;DR This dude looks plain as frick. Least interesting looking dude of all time.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:45 pm to UASports23
Bruce is a great guy fwiw. I got him to come speak to my class the week of the game of the century just by asking on twitter 
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:04 pm to UASports23
Nice write-up. Bruce also said Tualia was at least an inch and a half shorter than Tua. Fingers crossed that he keeps growing. Last I saw he was listed at 5'11".
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:39 pm to UASports23
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Tua keeps things simple and not get entangled
This is how you function productively with masses.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 9:32 am to prevatt33
I heard Feldman on Finebum. He said he talked to a long time NFL person at that Elite 11 camp, who said Tua can throw the ball as well or better than anyone he has ever seen. Feldman said when Alabama lines up for the first game, he believes they will have 2 of the top 10 QBs in college football on their team.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:12 am to IB4bama
Tua is too talented not to be our primary QB. Jalen is good enough that we need to find a role for him as well this year. He can then grad-transfer anywhere he wants after the season. But having a role for both of those guys puts a lot of stress on opposing defenses to prepare for both styles. I hope Saban can develop a "Tebow" package for Hurts this year. I think Urban did a great job in 2006 managing Leak/Tebow. No reason Saban can't do the same this year IMO if he's open to it.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:14 am to IB4bama
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he believes they will have 2 of the top 10 QBs in college football on their team.
Wow, thats a strong statement for Mac Jones.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:19 am to UASports23
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Taulia is a project.
That is the exact opposite of what I've heard.
Due to having great coaching, and growing up in an air-raid offense I've heard Taulia is already a polished passer that knows where he is going with the ball, and gets it out of his hand very quickly.
Then there are all the recent reports that say he has the most arm talent in this class.
If he was four inches taller he would be a composite five star. Someone at the elite 11 was quoted a couple weeks ago as saying that Taulia was bigger than he thought he would be so sounds like he has grown a little since last year so thats good news.
I know it's dark, but I hope some kind of brotherly rivalry will tempt Tua to play his Sr year at Bama. A "you'll be second string as long as big bro is around" type thing.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:05 pm to PowHound
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Taulia is a project.
That is the exact opposite of what I've heard.
Feldman, when talking about Tualia, said the ball comes out of his hand explosively just like his brother. No one slighted his ability to throw. Regarding his ability to see the field, it wasn't mentioned. It seemed to me when I listened that Bruce's comments regarding Tualia being a "project" were due to his lack of height and l slight build, that it didn't look like he'd be able to step right in and be ready physically for big time football as a freshman. He alluded to Tua being much more thickly built that Tualia and said that while Tualia has time to grow, he's a lot smaller than ideal at this stage.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:12 pm to prevatt33
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Tua being much more thickly built that Tualia and said that while Tualia has time to grow, he's a lot smaller than ideal at this stage.
That sounds more accurate; I'll buy that for $500, Alex.
However, when I see what Wilson, Breese, Mayfield, and Tua have done... especially what the latter two have done vs college D's- has height become the most over-rated quality for a college QB ?
Posted on 6/11/18 at 2:14 pm to PowHound
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has height become the most over-rated quality for a college QB
While height isn't the "end all be all" regarding success at the QB position, when you are 4-7 inches shorter than your Oline and your success hinges on being able to see the field, there are both literal and figurative obstacles in your way that aren't in the way of a taller QB.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 5:00 pm to prevatt33
Both Tua and Hurts will be great.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 5:32 pm to prevatt33
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regarding Tualia being a "project" were due to his lack of height and l slight build, that it didn't look like he'd be able to step right in and be ready physically for big time football as a freshman. He alluded to Tua being much more thickly built that Tualia and said that while Tualia has time to grow, he's a lot smaller than ideal at this stage.
If that is what he said then "project" is probably the wrong word to describe the kid imo. The same was said about AJ and it was true for him as well.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 5:56 pm to Commander Data
I was watching some old QB highlights the other day and the ball leaves Tua's hand the same way it jumped out of Marino's. I know Marino is right handed but damn, if you watch him and then Tua, you'll see what I'm talking about.
I'm not saying Tua is the next Marino, I'm just comparing their quick motions and the way the ball leaves their hands. Here is a long video of Marino.
Youtube
I'm not saying Tua is the next Marino, I'm just comparing their quick motions and the way the ball leaves their hands. Here is a long video of Marino.
Youtube
Posted on 6/11/18 at 6:02 pm to Commander Data
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If that is what he said then "project" is probably the wrong word to describe the kid imo.
If you listen, what he says makes perfect sense. Critiquing word choice when it's paraphrased back to you doesn't really hold water. Just listen for yourself.
The simple reality is that a knowledgeable observer stated in so many words that, when viewing on the hoof and going through passing drills, it's hard to picture him contributing in the near future. Thankfully, we don't need him to.
EDIT: Think of his use of "project" not to mean "a long way to go with lots of issues to fix", but rather "not a finished product."
And he used it in the context of comparing him to other QBs and his brother, who were ready right away, and said something akin to "...Taulia is more of a project..." It was a comparison, not a point-blank description.
Edit2: It was also in the context of a conversation about how underwhelming this QB class is compared to last year's and next year's classes. There was a lot of criticism being thrown around to everyone as it was part of a larger topic.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 6/11/18 at 6:57 pm to Cobrasize
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I'm just comparing their quick motions and the way the ball leaves their hands.
I played the highlight reel of the title game today in the gym, and I was noticing the same thing.
The ball explodes out of his hand. On 'Tua and 26' Tuas drop carries him over the 50 yard line, and the ball would have landed maybe two yards into the endzone so...
He threw the ball 50 yards on a frozen rope that got there in a hurry. I bet the RPM's on that ball would have ranked in the top ten of any throw all season by any QB. You could tell by the flight of the ball that thang was spinnen.
If you've ever picked up a junior football and ripped it around with a buddy... that's what it must be like for Tua. He's creating so many RPM's, and the college ball is bigger than the NFL ball if memory serves correctly. Its truly impressive AF.
Been waiting my entire life for Bama to have the envy of the league at QB.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:02 pm to tider04
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. I think Urban did a great job in 2006 managing Leak/Tebow. No reason Saban can't do the same this year IMO if he's open to it.
I think Urban's job was a bit easier. While Tebow had a ton of fan-fare and was highly touted coming out of high school, he was still a true freshman getting to play and compete against a senior.
Tua is coming in and attempting to (or already has) de-throne a 2 year starter. Couple that with a dad that is running his mouth and putting unnecessary added pressure on his son, makes the job a lot more difficult for Saban to manage. I hope there are packages and thing set up and that, if Tua is the starter, then Jalen has a role and position and can successfully help the team.
If anybody can do it, Saban can.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:08 pm to prevatt33
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EDIT: Think of his use of "project" not to mean "a long way to go with lots of issues to fix", but rather "not a finished product."
Eh, the word "project" probably wasn't the most accurate term he could have used regardless of how you define it. Tia made the Elite 11 finals, had observers raving about his performance and will likely end up as a top 100 player when all is said and done. Is he as physically developed and ready to play as his bro was? No. But that doesn't make him a project. It just means he'll need a year or two to develop physically and mentally once he arrives. Heck, Tua wasn't ready until late in the season. He was a bit of a turnover machine in practice until about November. Tia will be just fine. He's one of the top QB's in this class and has a rocket for an arm.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:46 pm to tider04
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Eh, the word "project" probably wasn't the most accurate term he could have used regardless of how you define it. Tia made the Elite 11 finals, had observers raving about his performance and will likely end up as a top 100 player when all is said and done. Is he as physically developed and ready to play as his bro was? No. But that doesn't make him a project. It just means he'll need a year or two to develop physically and mentally once he arrives. Heck, Tua wasn't ready until late in the season. He was a bit of a turnover machine in practice until about November. Tia will be just fine. He's one of the top QB's in this class and has a rocket for an arm.
You do you, man. I was just sharing info, as I think we as fans can only get a clear picture by getting info from multiple viewpoints. However, you seem to really want to believe something very specific, so I'll leave you to it.
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