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re: Interesting comments on Bama QBs
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:48 pm to prevatt33
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:48 pm to prevatt33
Tua is 6’1. Tia will be at least 6’0. Just not that much of a difference. Sure, I’d love for him to be 6’3 but he’ll be alright. Kid has an NFL arm, good mobility and seems to read and anticipate defenses well like his bro.
Ask yourself this. How nervous would you be if he signed with UT or AU? Would you look forward to facing him the next few years? I’d be dreading it.
Ask yourself this. How nervous would you be if he signed with UT or AU? Would you look forward to facing him the next few years? I’d be dreading it.
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:06 am to tider04
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Ask yourself this. How nervous would you be if he signed with UT or AU? Would you look forward to facing him the next few years? I’d be dreading it.
I think the principle reason that Saban took a commitment from Tualia is that it makes Tua's family happy and therefore helps keep Tua from transferring in the event of a protracted QB battle. In a down year for QBs, you take what you can get, and it's great if that stone kills another bird or 2.
I don't think Tualia would have been pursued hard enough to commit to us if his brother wasn't our likely starting QB for the future and we weren't desperate for more QBs in our QB room. Thankfully, the worst case scenario by taking Tualia is that you have a helluva practice QB who can spin it. Best case scenario we win some championships with his older brother and he gets taller and/or develops into something - you know he's got the arm talent and hopefully pedigree.
I think that Tualia has an excellent arm, yes, and hopefully can see the field like his brother. That second trait is yet to be seen. But no, I don't think he's a particularly special QB commit at this juncture and wouldn't be "dread" it in the slightest if he went to our rivals. I'm also not a pansy and wouldn't dread seeing the hybrid clone-spawn of Cam Newton and Tom Brady lining up for auburn every year. Bring it on. I wanna play against the best. Anything else is a waste of time.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 1:09 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:24 am to prevatt33
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I don't think Tualia would have been pursued hard enough to commit to us if his brother wasn't our likely starting QB for the future and we weren't desperate for more QBs in our QB room.
Disagree completely. Kid is a 4-star, Elite 11 QB (who advanced to the Finals at the Opening) who will likely push into the top 100 overall players in this class. Acting like he's a low level 3-star with a couple of marginal offers is just silly. I know the fact that he isn't 6'6 completely discounts him as an elite college QB in your mind. But you're just wrong.
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I'm also not a pansy and wouldn't dread seeing the hybrid clone-spawn of Cam Newton and Tom Brady lining up for auburn every year. Bring it on. I wanna play against the best. Anything else is a waste of time.
Bravado like this sounds really tough on a message board. If our rivals all had a hybrid of Brady/Cam at QB every year, you'd get tired of getting beat most years after a while and change your tune. As Saban says; "the fun is in the winning." I don't need our rivals to have an all-star roster to enjoy kicking the crap out of them every year and winning championships. To each their own.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 8:25 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:57 am to tider04
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To each their own.
Yup. I likewise disagree completely with everything you just said, including your assessment of what I think. Let's finish this conversation and agree to disagree.
Last thing, though. Nobody talks about Muhammad Ali vs Billy Daniels. Muhammad Ali became a global icon for his fights against the likes of Joe Frazier, George Foreman, and Sonny Liston. And if you had been Muhammad Ali, you would have remained a nobody cause you just "want to win." frick that shite completely. Play the best, and anything else is a waste of time because beating up on lesser competition isn't "winning." Winning is only sweet if it comes with the chance of defeat.
I'll leave you to it as I'm sure you've got some 2nd graders to arm wrestle or something.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 8:59 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:14 am to prevatt33
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Last thing, though. Nobody talks about Muhammad Ali vs Billy Daniels. Muhammad Ali became a global icon for his fights against the likes of Joe Frazier, George Foreman, and Sonny Liston. And if you had been Muhammad Ali, you would have remained a nobody cause you just "want to win." frick that shite completely. Play the best, and anything else is a waste of time because beating up on lesser competition isn't "winning." Winning is only sweet if it comes with the chance of defeat.
Out of all the really dumb things you've typed out in this thread--and there have been ALOT of really dumb, poorly thought out things you've dropped in this thread--this is perhaps the dumbest of them all. Of course I want Bama to play the best teams out there and win championships. I love that we beat Clemson AND Georgia to win the natty last year. I don't want to play a schedule of high school teams. That's wholly different than saying you hope all of our rivals have hybrid pro-bowl players at every position that will beat us most years. Red herring detected, and swiftly rejected.
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I'll leave you to it as I'm sure you've got some 2nd graders to arm wrestle or something.
You really nailed me with that one. Not sure how I'll recover!
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:04 am to tider04
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That's wholly different than saying you hope all of our rivals have hybrid pro-bowl players at every position that will beat us most years.
This is the thing: I never said anything close to the above. I said I wasn't scared of our rivals having a good (or even amazing) QB which was an answer to a direct question of yours, and then you want to restate my words differently and hyperbolicly and criticize the result. That is a juvenile way to argue a thing.
I want Bama to win by being better than our rivals. I believe that if they have good or great players, we must and will find better ones. You indicated that you want to win by our rivals having players that are not very good. I think that's the goal of a pansy.
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Red herring detected, and swiftly rejected.
I also think this kind of stuff is laughable, like you need to tell everyone what you believe you did so that they hopefully notice. It's really pathetic. Just let your words stand on their own merit like a man.
And do you know what a 'red herring' is? No one is writing a mystery here with a false lead, not me or you. There are no 'red herrings' anywhere on this website. I guess that was just a really poor word choice by you, right?
But I really don't care to continue this discussion. Based on this conversation, I don't respect you in the slightest way, and disagree with not only many of your viewpoints, but also your manner of expressing your viewpoints. I do not think you have the ability or willingness to understand the words people type or points people make. I think you want to put words into a persons mouth rather than attempt to understand them. I believe you to be in pursuit of a misunderstanding and incapable of avoiding it. And based on the above, I think you are a joke.
I also believe you to have a similar negative opinion toward me, and I don't care in the slightest. It's just where we argued ourselves into.
However, this discussion has run it's course. If you want to reply to this post, insult me further, change my words one more time for old times' sake, or get the last word in, I will let you do that. It's fine with me. However, I will not reply.
If we meet again in another discussion, I will consider you and I to have a clean slate in order to hopefully have a nice discussion next time. If you choose not to do that, no worries. Take care, and Roll Tide.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 2:23 pm to prevatt33
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You indicated that you want to win by our rivals having players that are not very good.
Talk about restating someone's words in a different way so you can criticize their argument. Exhibit A, your honor. Wanting the best players to play for Bama instead of our rivals doesn't mean I fear competition or am a "pansy" (did you major in middle school put-downs? "Pansy"? Lulz)
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And do you know what a 'red herring' is?
Absolutely. You might want to brush up on your definitions. From dictionary.com: red-herring- something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand. You pulled a boxing analogy to try to paint my argument into something we both know was never my intent. I never said I wanted Bama to play (or box in your analogy) horrible competition. I simply argued that your position of a hybrid pro bowl player (your example, not mine) for our rivals isn't something I desire for them as it would result in more losses and fewer championships for Bama. That's a totally different argument than not wanting to play any good teams, or being afraid of competition. That whole analogy was a complete diversion from my point. And we both know that to be true. Thus, the red herring, most certainly fits the bill.
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If we meet again in another discussion, I will consider you and I to have a clean slate in order to hopefully have a nice discussion next time. If you choose not to do that, no worries. Take care, and Roll Tide.
Likewise. I'm not a grudge-holder. Have a nice day!
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 5:14 am to tider04
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:32 am to Cobrasize
quote:Take a look at some film of Namath...talking about a quick release!
I was watching some old QB highlights the other day and the ball leaves Tua's hand the same way it jumped out of Marino's. I know Marino is right handed but damn, if you watch him and then Tua, you'll see what I'm talking about.
I'm not saying Tua is the next Marino, I'm just comparing their quick motions and the way the ball leaves their hands. Here is a long video of Marino.
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