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re: If Michigan does quit

Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:49 am to
Posted by crimsontater
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:49 am to
i understand byu not taking the bait now.

heres my issue with all the, tosu is a top 4 team talk. 3 of their 4 opponents have a combined win total of 4 games. rutgers is the team with 2 wins in that group. the only team with a pulse tosu has played, iu, played them to a 7 point game. i'm just not sold on them being a top 4 team. they may very well prove me wrong, but they havent yet.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 7:07 am to
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heres my issue with all the, tosu is a top 4 team talk. 3 of their 4 opponents have a combined win total of 4 games. rutgers is the team with 2 wins in that group. the only team with a pulse tosu has played, iu, played them to a 7 point game. i'm just not sold on them being a top 4 team. they may very well prove me wrong, but they havent yet.




Do you think that the playoff committee has the gall to pick a buckeye team with 5 wins over an SEC team with 10 games under their belt? At that point, how good they might be, isn't going to fly with all these other teams who played their schedule. I don't think they've earned their way.
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 7:30 am to
I thought B1G made rules where they can't reschedule?

Amazing seeing how they screwed teams like Wisconsin in the beginning of the season and didn't care but now when it comes to their baby OSU they want to do everything they can because it's the "right" thing to do.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 7:42 am to
I don't know if it is a rule but at this point with them doing the East/West challenge the schedule wouldn't allow the opportunity to reschedule games at this point.

What I find most interesting is that it seems under every other circumstance that teams in the B1G have had to cancel due to COVID outbreaks they had to cancel two games. However Ohio State seems to be going full steam ahead into the Michigan State game after only cancelling one game. And they will need Michigan to pull off the same trick to make the rivalry game happen.
Posted by AjA77
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:25 am to
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Amazing seeing how they screwed teams like Wisconsin in the beginning of the season and didn't care but now when it comes to their baby OSU they want to do everything they can because it's the "right" thing to do.


Thats why they should not get in with that weak strength of schedule.Whats also crazy they want to trash Mich who will not do anything for the weak wins they have.They should be glad Mich wont play and can sub in Wisconsin..Wisky should also say take a hike.But its they way they want assumed ranking based on pre-season to be valuable now.When others have have to prove theres.
You dont know what happens over the course of a 11 game season injury wise that shifts everything.We lost Tua before the iron bowl and it cost us.
I get Covid wise adjustments have/had to be made.But to think teams and players were not going to decided to play based on common value and ability to compete was nieve.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:49 am to
It'll be funny if MSU upsets OSU or the game gets canceled.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:51 am to
I might be misunderstanding what you are saying but Michigan/Ohio State isn’t cancelled yet. Michigan/Maryland is canceled this week and Ohio State/ Michigan State is up in the air. Michigan/Ohio State is suppose to be next week. Ohio State can’t replace Michigan with a conference team if that game gets cancelled. Definitely not Wisconsin as they are playing Iowa. If Iowa beats Wisky and Ohio State isn’t in the B1G Title game they have just a good of chance of being paired with Iowa as they do with the Badgers for the East/West showdown.
Everything else I agree with but if Ohio State gets even to just 6-0 I think the committee puts them in.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:51 am to
OSU shouldnt even be in the top four. They haven't played anyone. They aren't going to play anyone.

Talent be damned. They dont deserve to be there
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 9:53 am to
i'm curious to see if the msu/tosu game actually takes place. there was a convenient c-19 outbreak when tosu was slated to play a maryland offense that was coming to life real fast. will there be another convenient outbreak now that msu has shown signs of life? hmm... we shall see
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 10:04 am to
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OSU shouldnt even be in the top four. They haven't played anyone. They aren't going to play anyone.

Talent be damned. They dont deserve to be there

Yeah, final four teams should have a top 4-ish resumé. Earn it. Prove it. Deserve it. Compared to other teams playing 10-11 teams, including 5-6 with winning records, OSU playing only 6 teams (4-5 with lousy records) just doesn't measure up. The "eye-test" has been way too easy for OSU, and OSU didn't beat IU by much. The committee should exclude OSU for a weak resumé, just like they've done with BYU. Also, if Clemson can't beat ND in the ACC title game, will their resumé be worthy? What if TAMU wins out and looks like a strong, complete team in doing so? What if USC or Washington goes 6-0 or 7-0 and wins the PAC-12? What about Cincy if they're 9-0 and the AAC champ? It seems like a handful of teams ranked behind OSU could've looked as good as or better than OSU if they'd played OSU's weak six-game schedule.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 7:14 pm
Posted by AjA77
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 10:20 am to
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I might be misunderstanding what you are saying but Michigan/Ohio State isn’t cancelled yet


I was just saying that Herb on ESPN as an OSU alumni had no bushiness calling out Mich attempting to duck them when the game had not be cancelled yet.When nobody questioned why they cancelled there previous game with Illini which they had enough people to play...With that being said there strength of schedule even at 6-0 is not better than a one loss A&M, one loss Fla,or a possibly one loss ND, a possibly one loss Bama.
You could maybe even say Clemson both with 2-loses is more impressive based on opponent VS OSU competitive wins.
OSU will get 6 games because both games look like they will be played and the big ten will make a way for them to get the games they needed.They are talented and could win it all, but for the committee to have them 4th now is questionable especially with way less games, competition others have played.
Posted by phil4bama
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 11:02 am to
Regardless of the eyeball test, where I agree, OSU should be in, they shouldn't get an invite. The B1G made their bed, shite in it, and now they can lay in it. I know it won't happen because of TV$$ but OSU should be left out because the B1G and the PAC caused this clusterfrick by refusing to play...uh, oh, WAIT!! Can we play now? Then they cobbled together a late schedule with a late start, stupid COVID rules and no leeway or provisions for makeups. Why should they be rewarded for their incompetence? Sorry, OSU but you are collateral damage from your conference office's buffoonery.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12221 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:29 pm to
I just hope if Bama gets the 1 seed they don't put Ohio St as the 4th seed for playing less games.

Bama shouldn't be penalized for the Big Ten's mess and have to play the 2nd best team in the country in the semifinals.

I think Bama would beat Ohio St, but who knows the toll it would take to do so and have to play another team a week or so later.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24347 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:59 pm to
Whoever wins this year folks gonna put an asterisk by their name. Just the year we are in. You can't get around it.

However, the committee can't water it down by putting undeserving teams in.

Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6313 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 2:12 pm to
I'd love an asterisk next to our 18th national championship.

Sign me up!
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5675 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 5:35 pm to
The asterisk talk is dumb. Whoever wins the NC will deserve it... especially if it's a SEC team that played 10 conference games with no creampuffs... outside of LSU.

I don't think Ohio St deserves to get in, but I'd rather not have to hear "if Ohio St had been in the playoff" BS. If Bama, Clemson and OSU are in, then people can't say much since that's who likely is in during a normal season anyway.
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
11681 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 5:59 pm to
Ohio State stated today they will be playing "short handed" and will release a list of players who will not be able to participate tomorrow. Last thing I saw was that B1G Teams have to have below a 5% positivity rate to play which for most teams is 5-10 positives (although who knows if it has changed at this point). It will be interesting to see how many names are on that list and how it impacts their roster. A ton more intrigue gets added if they lose with a depleted roster along with whether they play Michigan (or someone else) the following week and then play in the B1G Title or get an East/West matchup. College football is so ridiculous .
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24347 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

The asterisk talk is dumb


Bruh, there is going to be an asterisk on this season. Teams not playing at full strength, no out of conference games, teams not being able to play full schedules. How is asterisk talk dumb?it's logical.

quote:

I'd rather not have to hear "if Ohio St had been in the playoff"


This is a counterpoint to asterisk talk being dumb


Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
11681 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:35 pm to
Time cancels all "asterisks". Seasons get altered all the time. Braves 95 World Series, 99 Spurs Championship, 2011 Heat. Those are just recent ones. There have been a ton before that. People have short memories and in 10 years all people will say is blank was National Champ for 2020.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 6:37 pm
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24347 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:57 pm to
Well yea..Time cancels/reduces everything.

Lives, Government, Countries, Boner strength, etc.
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