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I think we end up a bit less talented, but a better coached team.

Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:01 pm
We'll also be a bit more QBcentic. But QB development will shine.

It's all a matter if degree.

I think we stay balanced and have a more disciplined Offensive line.

The immediate future depends largely on how Milroe responds to world class QB coaching. If he has it in him to be a fast thinker in the field, they will bring it out.

Even on defense we will be better coached, with fewer breakdowns and mis communications.

But the question becomes. Can we Stay a top ten recruiting program.

Top 10 should keep us national championship competitive.

There is often a tradeoff between great recruiters and great on field coaches.
I think we are swinging more towards coaching.

A nearly intact roster and an improved milroe might be considerably better than last years Bama. But of that doesn't happen, will it be a hiccup or the beginning of a precipitous talent drain?



This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted by In Hsv
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2011
244 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
Agree, but with the transfer portal initial recruiting , although important, is less so. Look at the 24 cycle. Ole Miss. is practically building their team from transfers. Look what happened to A&M.
They lost many of those high priced high school recruits.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
826 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:13 pm to
Saban retiring started a domino affect. Every vacancy demands a vacancy, and every vacancy also demands a 30 Day portal opportunity for this new staff. I believe the holes can and will be plugged thru the portal. You can’t expect a change this significant in the program to not have an impact, but we are in a better position than I could have ever imagined with the staff that’s being put in place.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19672 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:13 pm to
Having excellent teaching and game day coaching is more important now than recruiting out of high school. Recruiting had been reduced to buying players, and everybody can buy your players. Spending nil on unproven hs players is actually probably a pretty poor user of funds. Get proven portal players and have excellent coaching. I think we are going to have excellent coaching.

The saban model of just accumulating a suffocating advantage in talent doesn't work anymore, it was just Saban's status as GOAT that helped him keep it up to an extent, but even his later teams showed cracks.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:16 pm to
It was also staff instability. I expect more stability.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4973 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
I think we will be extremely talented with less negative energy vampires on the team.

The offense WILL be better and the defense will be far more aggressive once everybody is on the same page. They will be young and ultra talented especially on the backend.
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2085 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:22 pm to
Dont understand why you are getting downvotes. I think it is spot on. As great as Saban is, the past three seasons havent been greatly coached teams (though this year was still amazing to pull of what they did). But we’ve seen a ton of busted assignments, penalties, and some bonehead decisions.

I think we will see less of that and a more fundamentally sound product moving forward. The question is, will it be performed by slightly less raw talent on the field. How much of a talent hit can you take and be offset by coaching? We shall see.

But if we’re lucky we wont lose much talent this next season or two and will get to coach up the talent that is in Tuscaloosa currently. That will be best of both worlds.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14476 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:24 pm to
Saban often sacrificed coaching for recruiting. I don’t think that’s debatable. And the last few years he seems to have had a harder time filling vacancies. I think what he alluded to about coaches and players wanting assurances about longevity came into play.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Saban often sacrificed coaching for recruiting.


I don't know what the hell he got in Doug Marrone.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2963 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:32 pm to
Why can’t we have both? Keep a lot on this team until the west coast coaches make southern ties and keep the top ten classes coming. The recruiting guy DeBoer brought with him is really good.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:51 pm to
This is possible.
Posted by In Hsv
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2011
244 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:52 pm to
We can do both, but winning will be the catalyst. Previous recruits committed to Saban. There will be a dropoff. If Bama can maintain winning at a high level, all will workout.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14476 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:52 pm to
I think Marrone was part of the BOB package. Just a horrendous hire all around.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
1975 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:01 pm to
If we are being very honest, Bama has not been coached to an elite level across the board for years. Elite talent has masked a
lot of coaching deficiencies by assistants.
Posted by Bolivar Shagnasty
Your mothers corner
Member since Aug 2017
654 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:20 pm to
I said this on another board. Coach replacements is all about timing. While there is never a good time to replace the Goat......this was a great hire.

It appears to be similar to when Urban Meyer was hired at UF. He had done well at Bowling Green and Utah and was the next big thing in coaching. I believe that DeBoer is that coach, without nearly the baggage that CUM proved to have.

I agree that Saban had lost a bit in recent years. The penalties alone was enough to make you pull your hair out.
Posted by PhoSho86
Member since Sep 2019
70 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:01 pm to
If this is the case Alabama is a 9-3 type of program in the SEC. Being a non-elite talent program does not work in the SEC. It just doesn't. It works in the ACC, Pac 12 (RIP), Big Ten to an extent, etc. It doesn't work when 6 of the Top 12 teams in recruiting are in the same conference. Alabama's goal should be to remain in that Top 5-7 range in recruiting, NIL be damned.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 8:13 pm
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