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re: Ecstatic Bama won, but I still think DeBoer = Mark Richt
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:05 pm to PowHound
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:05 pm to PowHound
So?
Again, Saban is gone. He’s not coming back. He’s in the history books, as is his accomplishments, and is on the shortlist for GOAT, but he is irrelevant to our program moving forward.
Trying to replicate Paul Bryant and his way of doing things liked to have tore our program apart after 1982. I don’t want to see cult of personality “fans” do the same thing this time because there is not another Saban out there to be had. He came here at a moment in time but that moment is over
Again, Saban is gone. He’s not coming back. He’s in the history books, as is his accomplishments, and is on the shortlist for GOAT, but he is irrelevant to our program moving forward.
Trying to replicate Paul Bryant and his way of doing things liked to have tore our program apart after 1982. I don’t want to see cult of personality “fans” do the same thing this time because there is not another Saban out there to be had. He came here at a moment in time but that moment is over
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:09 pm to UhOhOreo
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I find the Mark Richt comparison hilarious given Richt couldn’t beat ranked teams and DeBoer is 8-2 here on top 10 games
If anything DeBoer is more along the lines of OP's boy Lane, just without being a garbage human being. Big wins along with some inexplicable losses.
Accusing someone of being Mark Richt isn't that bad of a criticism in an environment with a 12 team playoff anyway. Richt choked away a game or two every year that always kept his teams out of the title game in the BCS era, but he had more than a couple of teams who could have won it all in the current postseason setup.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:21 pm to Robot Santa
Looking at his records I think he absolutely would have put at least two big trophies in the case in today’s setup and we might have played hell beating them in a rematch in 2012.
People who use Richt as a punch line are showing their ignorance.
People who use Richt as a punch line are showing their ignorance.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:35 pm to PowHound
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DeBoer = Mark Richt
We could do worse until we find our next Bear/Saban.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:37 pm to PowHound
Ain't no way I'm reading all of that
But I think the comparison between the two is apt. BK 2.0 is another one. I've been saying this all along and get belittled for it - but we had a tyrant and we hired Andy Griffith
But I think the comparison between the two is apt. BK 2.0 is another one. I've been saying this all along and get belittled for it - but we had a tyrant and we hired Andy Griffith
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:38 pm to PowHound
And Urban lost to Purdue twice, including a blowout. At the same age Saban lost to a Kentucky quarterback hovering close to 300 pounds
I don’t fricking care
. DeBoer isn’t remotely comparable to Richt because Richt’s problems aren’t DeBoer’s problems
For a 50 year old coach with only four years at the power level, he’s doing just swell. Let him ease into the role and continue to grow.
I don’t fricking care
For a 50 year old coach with only four years at the power level, he’s doing just swell. Let him ease into the role and continue to grow.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:41 pm to PowHound
quote:maybe go eat shite
PowHound
Posted on 12/20/25 at 3:41 pm to Pastor Mike
No tyrant is going to win in the current landscape of college football. Those days are over.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:09 pm to Robot Santa
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Accusing someone of being Mark Richt isn't that bad of a criticism in an environment with a 12 team playoff anyway.
I totally agree.
I expect CKD to keep us relevant, and in the hunt for a playoff slot, but I'll also be shocked to see one of his teams win a title. That's been my point here.
Alabama is not good on offense or special teams. Kinda hard to be a title contender when a majority of the team is playing subpar football.
I truly believe Bama could blow the doors off Indiana, and then turn around and get embarrassed in the next round. The lack of any kind of consistency outside the defensive side of the ball is alarming IMO, and that is the responsibility of the HC. DeBoer for whatever reason is not putting a consistent product on the field.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:11 pm to InkStainedWretch
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People who use Richt as a punch line are showing their ignorance.
I thought Richt was a good coach, but I wanted him to stay at UGA forever because I knew if they got an elite coach they would be trouble.
I feel like that is going to be DeBoer.
Everyone around the SEC will be hoping we keep DeBoer forever because everyone knows what happens when Bama has an elite coach.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:13 pm to narddogg81
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maybe go eat shite
Solid post, Narddogg.
Thank you for contributing.
Merry Christmas.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:24 pm to PowHound
If your standard for eliteness is Saban, there will never be another Saban at Alabama because no Saban can function as he did here in today’s college football landscape, which is not changing no matter how many people wish and hope Donald Trump or Nick Saban or some knight in white armor is going to come riding in to restore all that is righteous and holy about the sport.
Saban needed total control, to be a tyrant as Pastor Mike described it, to make his process work and no coach can have total control over mercenary free agents. Kirby doesn’t. Kiffin doesn’t. And no, DeBoer doesn’t. It is what it is.
That need for total control is why Saban ran back to college football after Daunte Culpepper got nose to nose with him when he was with the Dolphins and called him a sawed-off MF and threatened to beat his arse and Saban had to stand there and take it.
You’re pining for an elite coach, you need to be worrying if we can keep up with the nouveau riche moving forward in NIL because that’s a whole lot more relevant to us remaining a force than whether we have another Saban as coach.
Saban needed total control, to be a tyrant as Pastor Mike described it, to make his process work and no coach can have total control over mercenary free agents. Kirby doesn’t. Kiffin doesn’t. And no, DeBoer doesn’t. It is what it is.
That need for total control is why Saban ran back to college football after Daunte Culpepper got nose to nose with him when he was with the Dolphins and called him a sawed-off MF and threatened to beat his arse and Saban had to stand there and take it.
You’re pining for an elite coach, you need to be worrying if we can keep up with the nouveau riche moving forward in NIL because that’s a whole lot more relevant to us remaining a force than whether we have another Saban as coach.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:28 pm to PowHound
Dude called the true Bama forum OG a troll lol
I get what you are saying about the offense looking like they don’t know how to play football sometimes, the first quarter last night was one. I think we can match up with anybody but we’ve got to play smart and mistake free in all three parts.
I get what you are saying about the offense looking like they don’t know how to play football sometimes, the first quarter last night was one. I think we can match up with anybody but we’ve got to play smart and mistake free in all three parts.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:59 pm to PowHound
Haha this will go over well
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:14 pm to InkStainedWretch
I'm picking up what you're putting down, and I agree we dont have to have the best HC in the country to win big, but you do need a consistent coach.
Would you call DeBoer consistent ? I sure wouldn't. I would call him consistently inconsistent. I have no idea which Bama is going to show up week to week, or even half to half.
Alabama hired DeBoer to bring his offense to TTown, but he left it in Washington apparently.
Or maybe Penix and those first round WR's were the DeBoer offense.
All I know is Kiffin will pillage the free agent market and build an offense better than DeBoers probably as soon as next season.
Would you call DeBoer consistent ? I sure wouldn't. I would call him consistently inconsistent. I have no idea which Bama is going to show up week to week, or even half to half.
Alabama hired DeBoer to bring his offense to TTown, but he left it in Washington apparently.
Or maybe Penix and those first round WR's were the DeBoer offense.
All I know is Kiffin will pillage the free agent market and build an offense better than DeBoers probably as soon as next season.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:16 pm to PowHound
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All I know is Kiffin will pillage the free agent market and build an offense better than DeBoers probably as soon as next season.
That's cool. How many playoff games or power 5 championships of any kind has Kiffin won again?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:26 pm to Funky Tide 8
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That's cool. How many playoff games or power 5 championships of any kind has Kiffin won again?
Nick Saban didn't win any conference championships in 5 years at Michigan State.
Kiffin transformed Ole Miss into a contender that is winning their first ever playoff game as we speak. It's not his fault he was hired to take over a program with more resources, and more money.
Everyone fading Kiffin is crazy.
I remember when Alabama fans were in lockstep agreement with one another that he was an offensive savant. "SAVANT PAAAWWWWWLL"
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:40 pm to PowHound
Before Kiffin came to OC Bama, I had said to my wife that I didn't like Kiffin, he's a prick. When Saban hired him, wife said, I thought you said he was a prick.
Well, he is our prick now.
Well, he is our prick now.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:43 pm to PowHound
wtf is wrong with the fans here?
This is a fricking stupid thread. Absolutely stupid.
This is a fricking stupid thread. Absolutely stupid.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:48 pm to PowHound
I have always thought Kiffin was a frat boy with the emotional maturity of a teenage girl at that time of the month. I’ve never thought he was this maniacal play calling genius dialing up sure-fire calls certain to blow games open.
I’ve gotten downvoted here for this but I have never worshipped at the altar of the almighty coordinator, offensive or defensive. It frustrated me last week how people were quaking in terror of what Brent Venables was going to do to us when we should have been focusing on what we were going to do to Brent Venables.
Re>DeBoer, I will give you this … I am much more legitimately pleased with him in the home stretch of this season than I was at the end of last season, and I also think he seems more comfortable on the sideline and more fired up (although he’s never going to be a screamer and a butt kicker like Saban) but I need to see a big jump in 2026 and the running game must be improved.
One big reason “we haven’t seen his full offense yet” is that it has to have an effective running game to work. We’re never going to run the ball 60 times a game anymore, we weren’t with Saban, but Washington had a 1,200-yard rusher who scored a crap ton of touchdowns in 2023 even though the offense absolutely revolved around Penix and the receivers, and they got to play for the big trophy.
I’ve gotten downvoted here for this but I have never worshipped at the altar of the almighty coordinator, offensive or defensive. It frustrated me last week how people were quaking in terror of what Brent Venables was going to do to us when we should have been focusing on what we were going to do to Brent Venables.
Re>DeBoer, I will give you this … I am much more legitimately pleased with him in the home stretch of this season than I was at the end of last season, and I also think he seems more comfortable on the sideline and more fired up (although he’s never going to be a screamer and a butt kicker like Saban) but I need to see a big jump in 2026 and the running game must be improved.
One big reason “we haven’t seen his full offense yet” is that it has to have an effective running game to work. We’re never going to run the ball 60 times a game anymore, we weren’t with Saban, but Washington had a 1,200-yard rusher who scored a crap ton of touchdowns in 2023 even though the offense absolutely revolved around Penix and the receivers, and they got to play for the big trophy.
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