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Devonte weighs 167 lbs after 4 years of Bama Strength and Conditioning.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 4/30/21 at 6:20 pm
He will never bulk up.
And you know what? I don't give a damn. It doesn't matter.
And still, he is my favorite player ever at Bama and I predict his career will exceed everyone elses in this draft, including Big Tranny himself, T Lawrence
Imagine, they just took Waddle, who was hurt most of the year, over Devonte, who was hardly ever hurt his entire career, because of durability. Straight line speed?
They didn't consider hands or the ability to get open. How in the hell do you evaluate a receiver without considering that he catches absolutely everything and no one can cover him?
Devonte would have gone for over 35O yards against might OSU had he not gotten pulled,
These goofs in the NFL screwed up. Devonte, barring injury, will be in Canton one day. I truly believe that.
And while we are on it, I heard more people rip on Mac than you can imagine. The 49er fans were ecstatic to get a quarterback who played one game in 2020 and plays in the FCS ... The same level Alabama A&M plays on.
208 of 318 65.4% 2,947 yards passing ...9 yard average against minor league competition
They were 90% opposed to Jones with his 4700 yards passing and 97 QBR, who played every game against SEC and Playoff completion.... The highest of the highest level.
I hope the 49er suck so bad and this project they drafted turns into the greatest nfl draft blunder of all time. Not only do I hope for it, I expect it.
And you know what? I don't give a damn. It doesn't matter.
And still, he is my favorite player ever at Bama and I predict his career will exceed everyone elses in this draft, including Big Tranny himself, T Lawrence
Imagine, they just took Waddle, who was hurt most of the year, over Devonte, who was hardly ever hurt his entire career, because of durability. Straight line speed?
They didn't consider hands or the ability to get open. How in the hell do you evaluate a receiver without considering that he catches absolutely everything and no one can cover him?
Devonte would have gone for over 35O yards against might OSU had he not gotten pulled,
These goofs in the NFL screwed up. Devonte, barring injury, will be in Canton one day. I truly believe that.
And while we are on it, I heard more people rip on Mac than you can imagine. The 49er fans were ecstatic to get a quarterback who played one game in 2020 and plays in the FCS ... The same level Alabama A&M plays on.
208 of 318 65.4% 2,947 yards passing ...9 yard average against minor league competition
They were 90% opposed to Jones with his 4700 yards passing and 97 QBR, who played every game against SEC and Playoff completion.... The highest of the highest level.
I hope the 49er suck so bad and this project they drafted turns into the greatest nfl draft blunder of all time. Not only do I hope for it, I expect it.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:48 pm to RiverCityTider
Yeah I like Shanahan but I've never liked the 9ers. I hope and truly believe that Mac will have a much better career than Trey Lance.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:56 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Lance and Fields have major bust potential. Chicago is a QB graveyard. Fields will have to produce immediately and I don't think that's the best situation to do it in. Mac going to New England is the best situation because it's a similar culture to Alabama and he won't be forced into the starting role immediately because Cam is there.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 10:05 pm to bamatide07
Keep hearing Fields has bust potential but last I checked TL hasn't shown he can go through progressions and he's praised as a worldbeater.
Watch TL highlights. Dude rarely goes through his progression, just throws to predetermined targets from PSL.
Dude beat us in that championship because he was throwing dime back shoulder fades and we had a coward at CB getting exposed.
Watch TL highlights. Dude rarely goes through his progression, just throws to predetermined targets from PSL.
Dude beat us in that championship because he was throwing dime back shoulder fades and we had a coward at CB getting exposed.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 10:24 pm to YStar
Fields is incredibly talented but Chicago is a lousy organization. That's what I'm alluding to. He will have to produce immediately. I'm not sure that his support system there will help him. Matt Nagy has never impressed me and their skill position talent is average. Jim McMahon said that Chicago is where QB careers go to die. Lawrence is going to an interesting situation. The Urban Meyer experiment will be intriguing.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 10:29 pm to RiverCityTider
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He will never bulk up.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 12:24 am to TidalSurge1
I think Trevor can be a bust. His game against us looked better than it was because we had our worst secondary under Saban. Aside from that I haven't seen him do much. Beating up ACC teams doesn't impress me. Trevor looked normal against LSU and Ohio State two times.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 12:25 am
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:45 am to Shaft Williams
Been watching the draft for years. It still amazes me that these idiots will run over their own mother to draft “potential” and “high ceilings” over proven production and intangibles. Cam Newton still has every physical tool and POTENTIAL in the world. But even in New England he’s still a mediocre NFL quarterback. Because he doesn’t have the intangibles, the work ethic, the burning desire to be great.
In 1988 the Atlanta Falcons drafted Auburn’s OLB Aundray Bruce #1 overall. Bruce was a good player, 2 time All SEC and an All American. But he was nowhere near the overall #1 pick. But he had potential. His measurables were fantastic. He blew up the Combine. He was hailed as the next Lawrence Taylor. He was going to be an incredible NFL defensive stud. Instead, he was a bust. He was the same player he was at Auburn and a decent player but not the sure fire HofF’er Atlanta had in mind.
And these same NFL execs do the same shite every year, lather, rinse, repeat.
I have one simple question for the idiots that keep making these decisions: if a player has ALL this vast potential in college but doesn’t utilize it, harness it every play of every game and work to get better at the college level where the only thing they are given is a scholarship and the chance to get drafted, what makes you, Mr. NFL GM, think they are going to suddenly develop a work ethic and harness all that POTENTIAL after you’ve given them a contract and written them a check for millions of dollars?
The great ones show it on the field every day. Smitty didn’t take games off. Big Country Dickerson didn’t take plays off. If their body doesn’t betray them, they will succeed in the NFL. I don’t give a damn how good Trey Lance or Sunshine or Ja’Marr Chase CAN be, they haven’t shown how good they WANT to be. And that will show at the next level too.
Rant over.
In 1988 the Atlanta Falcons drafted Auburn’s OLB Aundray Bruce #1 overall. Bruce was a good player, 2 time All SEC and an All American. But he was nowhere near the overall #1 pick. But he had potential. His measurables were fantastic. He blew up the Combine. He was hailed as the next Lawrence Taylor. He was going to be an incredible NFL defensive stud. Instead, he was a bust. He was the same player he was at Auburn and a decent player but not the sure fire HofF’er Atlanta had in mind.
And these same NFL execs do the same shite every year, lather, rinse, repeat.
I have one simple question for the idiots that keep making these decisions: if a player has ALL this vast potential in college but doesn’t utilize it, harness it every play of every game and work to get better at the college level where the only thing they are given is a scholarship and the chance to get drafted, what makes you, Mr. NFL GM, think they are going to suddenly develop a work ethic and harness all that POTENTIAL after you’ve given them a contract and written them a check for millions of dollars?
The great ones show it on the field every day. Smitty didn’t take games off. Big Country Dickerson didn’t take plays off. If their body doesn’t betray them, they will succeed in the NFL. I don’t give a damn how good Trey Lance or Sunshine or Ja’Marr Chase CAN be, they haven’t shown how good they WANT to be. And that will show at the next level too.
Rant over.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:53 am to phil4bama
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Because he doesn’t have the intangibles, the work ethic, the burning desire to be great.
I see what you’re saying but I’d say it’s much harder to evaluate that though since. Not that they don’t but emphasis is placed on physical skills because it can’t be taught and it’s easily measurable.
In regards to Dickerson, he fell because of injuries. There’s no concern with his playing, it’s just that he’s had like 5 different injuries, many of which were season ending.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:37 am to 1BamaRTR
He's talking about 21 year old men who do everything well but pass the damn ball.
Trey Lance, in a simplistic scheme against low level competition has passing stats and passing tape that is no where near Mac Jones.
So they are going to teach this grown man how to pass accurately, how to see the field and read defenses and check down and maintain composure under pressure ... Etc.
They are going to teach him how to deal with the speed of the game when he is accustomed to playing competition that for the most part, are not capable of ever playing in the league.
I just think they are making alot of assumptions on this guy.
The previous poster is right. Drafting on potential is a two edged sword.
Sure, the super athletic add a demension, but what do you lose?
The 49ers basically acknowledge that they have to keep Jimmy Garoppolo until all this magic happens. So they are basically admitting that they have drafted a qb at 3 that as of now, can't play in the league.
Trey Lance, in a simplistic scheme against low level competition has passing stats and passing tape that is no where near Mac Jones.
So they are going to teach this grown man how to pass accurately, how to see the field and read defenses and check down and maintain composure under pressure ... Etc.
They are going to teach him how to deal with the speed of the game when he is accustomed to playing competition that for the most part, are not capable of ever playing in the league.
I just think they are making alot of assumptions on this guy.
The previous poster is right. Drafting on potential is a two edged sword.
Sure, the super athletic add a demension, but what do you lose?
The 49ers basically acknowledge that they have to keep Jimmy Garoppolo until all this magic happens. So they are basically admitting that they have drafted a qb at 3 that as of now, can't play in the league.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 10:24 am to RiverCityTider
Baseball scouting/drafting is just as bad. A scout would get run out of his organization if he recommended Greg Maddux now because he's not 6'3", 225# with a 96+ fastball. Or Pedro because he was built like a whippet.
That's how you end up with "tools" guys who can't play.
I bet Joe Montana would be lucky to get a P5 offer in football nowadays at his size and build. Scouting has become pretty gutless because no one will risk his professional reputation unless the player is built like a Greek god and runs like a deer.
That's how you end up with "tools" guys who can't play.
I bet Joe Montana would be lucky to get a P5 offer in football nowadays at his size and build. Scouting has become pretty gutless because no one will risk his professional reputation unless the player is built like a Greek god and runs like a deer.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 11:11 am to phil4bama
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Been watching the draft for years. It still amazes me that these idiots will run over their own mother to draft “potential” and “high ceilings” over proven production and intangibles. Cam Newton still has every physical tool and POTENTIAL in the world. But even in New England he’s still a mediocre NFL quarterback. Because he doesn’t have the intangibles, the work ethic, the burning desire to be great.
I get your point about potential vs production but this is an awful take.
Cam has not been a Mediocre QB. He has been a good QB in the NFL and the best QB draft pick in 2011. This ain't mediocre:
NFL Most Valuable Player (2015)
NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2015)
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2011)
First-team All-Pro (2015)
3× Pro Bowl (2011, 2013, 2015)
Bert Bell Award (2015)
PFWA All-Rookie Team (2011)
As far as physical tools, his body has failed him the past three seasons. Dude, has had multiple surgeries including shoulder surgery.
As far as work ethic, and burning desire. The dude busted his arse with the Patriots to become a captain and has earned STRONG remarks on all of that by his team and by Belichick.
ETA: Also, this...
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I don’t give a damn how good Trey Lance or Sunshine or Ja’Marr Chase CAN be, they haven’t shown how good they WANT to be.
Trevor Lawrence and Ja'Marr Chase haven't shown enough in college to warrant their picks? What. The.
I'll give you Trey Lance.
Per ESPN Stats....Lance had 318 pass attempts at North Dakota State, the fewest college passes thrown by any 1st-round QB in the last 40 years.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:15 pm to RiverCityTider
You mean Heisman Trophy Winner DeVonta Smith?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:23 pm to RiverCityTider
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The 49er fans were ecstatic to get a quarterback who played one game in 2020 and plays in the FCS ... The same level Alabama A&M plays on.
208 of 318 65.4% 2,947 yards passing ...9 yard average against minor league competition
The crazy part is Alabama A&M's QB is better than Lance.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:44 pm to UASports23
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Cam has not been a Mediocre QB. He has been a good QB in the NFL and the best QB draft pick in 2011. This ain't mediocre: NFL Most Valuable Player (2015) NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2015) NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2011) First-team All-Pro (2015) 3× Pro Bowl (2011, 2013, 2015) Bert Bell Award (2015) PFWA All-Rookie Team (2011)
So based on these statistics, I’d say Cam was a pretty good rookie but those rookie awards are often a product of who gets thrown out there first and has to play the most, ready or not. But I’ll concede Cam showed what he could do becoming the first rookie to throw for 4,000 yards and set the QB rushing TD record. Then he helped Carolina go 15-1 in 2015 and made it to the Super Bowl. But that’s 2 great seasons for the overall #1 pick. Here’s his career statistics:
TD–INT:
190–118
Passing yards:
31,698
Completion %:
60.1
Passer rating:
85.8
Rushing yards:
5,398
Rushing touchdowns:
70
Good, but not exactly earth shattering. No, after 2015, Cam got paid and got complacent. He was busier playing dress like a tranny than watching film. And now he is definitely a mediocre QB. A mediocre QB who got his feelings hurt when New England drafted someone to challenge him for the job.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:14 pm to phil4bama
And yet, Cam was eons ahead of Trey Lance when drafted.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:48 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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bet Joe Montana would be lucky to get a P5 offer in football nowadays at his size and build. Scouting has become pretty gutless because no one will risk his professional reputation unless the player is built like a Greek god and runs like a deer
I mean, I hear ya, but Bryce Young is tiny and he was like the #1 overall prospect out of HS.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:28 am to Shaft Williams
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I think Trevor can be a bust.
I think people will see this on full display. The only times he has played other good teams he has crumbled. Minus us and we completely imploded. If Jacksonville can’t protect him, he will do exactly what he did against LSU and OSU. Panic, throw passes at the ground and way overhead, fumble. Etc.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:06 am to CrimsonBoz
I just don’t see any way that Mac isn’t successful in whatever venture he pursues in life. His intelligence, work ethic, and discipline should lead to success.
Oh and he can sling it too...
Oh and he can sling it too...
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:11 am to CrimsonBoz
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I think people will see this on full display. The only times he has played other good teams he has crumbled. Minus us and we completely imploded. If Jacksonville can’t protect him, he will do exactly what he did against LSU and OSU. Panic, throw passes at the ground and way overhead, fumble. Etc.
Sunshine doesn't like being hit. When he gets hit a few times he starts to rush himself. Always has. That's one thing I'll give Fields. Potato Skalski tried to put him in a wheelchair and he got back up. We hit him a ton and he kept getting back up. He's fricked because he got picked by Chicago, but the kid is tough.
Then there's Mac, who I think actually likes being hit.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 9:13 am
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