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Defense under Golding, visual representation

Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:26 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Shocco
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:30 pm to
Either Golding goes, or I'd like to see Golding and Saban both go. If he can't see Golding for what he is, maybe chalk board analyst is more his speed now days.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:13 pm to
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Either Golding goes, or I'd like to see Golding and Saban both go.


Preach
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:16 pm to
The College Football Nerds takedown of Golding was as humiliating a film review as I can remember of a major coach.

Only using 1 DE/DT in many cases, Will Anderson being asked to go heads up many downs with OGs who had 60-80lbs on him, run support safeties being asked to cover slot guys in man… it goes on and on. We are a disaster schematically right now.

Just brutal stuff and likely the difference between competing for a championship vs wasting the last season of two of our most talented players in program history.

Here is a link if you’re interested:
CFN: Bama’s D Has a Major Flaw
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:18 pm
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:16 pm to
Yeah I would like to see them break down our offense which is even worse than that defense.
Posted by ChromaticTide
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:41 am to
Visual representation:
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:49 am to
Thanks for posting.

It is absolutely mind blowing that we left the middle of the field totally wide open on that long run by Daniels. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

The second play, the 3rd down run by the RB is wild too. How do you not have one single LBer set in the 2nd level? Moody made a great effort at getting to the ball carrier, but the missed tackle by was just pitiful.

What is the deal? Were we doing this in the first part of the season? Is Golding just vastly overthinking this? Was this apart of the scheme the last two seasons? Maybe he tried it in practice and it worked great against BoB's offense(lol)? Its hard to understand.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 7:52 am
Posted by LovetheLord
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:45 am to
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Either Golding goes, or I'd like to see Golding and Saban both go. If he can't see Golding for what he is, maybe chalk board analyst is more his speed now days.


You can hop in your Jeep Band Wagoneer and ride on off yourself. Chump!
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:47 am to
[quote It is absolutely mind blowing that we left the middle of the field totally wide open on that long run by Daniels. I just can't wrap my mind around it.
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In yesterday's interview, Saban said that there was a blown assignment on that play. If the assignment had been followed, the play would probably have resulted in a sack.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:59 am to
We need Pruitt back. I think our D was at the peak when he was the DC.

I think the best possible scenario is for a program like Nebraska, that needs a total overhaul, hires BOB because of how he handled Penn St. And then BOB takes Golding with him.

Rumors were that Sark wanted to take Pete with him to Texas and Saban stopped it, if true Saban really fricked that up.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:54 am to
First of all... Having pruitt back won't solve the problem Bama defense currently has. Golding plays a role in why we can't do this and that... but It's more of Saban's scheme... It hasn't really evolved over the years. We went from 3-4 formation... to nickel formation most of the time.. pattern matching scheme.. all of Saban's philosophy on defense needs to be updated and adjusted.
Georgia has same scheme as Bama, but how they called it is different. So Pruitt isn't the answer. To get it on same level as Georgia, we need to pull a coup from Georgia's staff. Schmann is the dude.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Rumors were that Sark wanted to take Pete with him to Texas and Saban stopped it.


I wish I didn't know this.

Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:29 pm to
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The College Football Nerds takedown of Golding was as humiliating a film review as I can remember of a major coach


Live look at CFN reviewing Bama defense

Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:46 pm to
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yesterday's interview, Saban said that there was a blown assignment on that play. If the assignment had been followed, the play would probably have resulted in a sack.


First off..Bama has seemingly so man blown assignments that it represents a trend and that points back to coaching
Second. I would like to know what assignment was blown ( not that it will be stated) because it seems like the only plausible "blown assignment' scenario would be like saying "Hellams blew his assignment by not staying with a 4.3 receiver". In other words something so miraculous that it nearly impossible. Look at the Daniels run play. LBs being asked to go Dline work is going to fail. Speed off the edge is great but if 230lb LBs are manhandled by 315 OLine ..gaps get created BIG gaps and fast QBs exploit it. The Weakness of LSUs OLine should have been their true frosh Tackles but Golding schemed an out for them by allowing room for the QB

On the RB play. Obviously no sack possiblity .. Just line up and push your man 10 yds. It was blocking sled practice and LSU did that


ETA. What has happened to some of the DLine I thought TSmith had all American potential. Quick and when he got you.. You stopped,

This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:55 pm to
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You can hop in your Jeep Band Wagoneer and ride on off yourself. Chump!
If you are happy with Golding, you are obviously the chump! Its been shown over and over he has no idea what he is doing.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5735 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:06 pm to
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Just brutal stuff and likely the difference between competing for a championship vs wasting the last season of two of our most talented players in program history.


Another thing they pointed out in which many here don't won't to acknowledge is that our interior DL (we play with two) are not very good.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
826 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:43 pm to
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First of all... Having pruitt back won't solve the problem Bama defense currently has. Golding plays a role in why we can't do this and that... but It's more of Saban's scheme... It hasn't really evolved over the years. We went from 3-4 formation... to nickel formation most of the time.. pattern matching scheme.. all of Saban's philosophy on defense needs to be updated and adjusted. Georgia has same scheme as Bama, but how they called it is different. So Pruitt isn't the answer. To get it on same level as Georgia, we need to pull a coup from Georgia's staff. Schmann is the dude.


Ah OK I see…so it’s Saban and his scheme that is the problem, but not Golding that is the problem. and having someone different like Pruitt, possibly the best DC we have had here wouldn’t change anything because Saban's scheme is the problem, not they guy calling the plays. Also, it turns out, that’s Saban’s scheme, which is the problem, is the same scheme they have at Georgia right now, but because they call the plays different, possibly because they have a different guy than Golding calling plays, in that same scheme, which is the problem, things work differently, and better, and because of that, we need to get that guy from Georgia, because he is the dude.

Is this what you are saying? Yeah…that makes no sense.
Posted by MOS0311
Member since Sep 2022
1042 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:05 pm to
From one of the Golding lovers at BamaOnLine:

quote:

Facts don't care about your feelings
2019 : Total D (13th, 3rd SEC), Total O (#2,, 1st SEC), #8 Final Ranking
2020: SECC, NC, Total D (#13, 1st SEC), Total O (#2, 1st SEC), #1 Final Ranking
2021: SECC, Played in NCG, Total D(#18, 4th Sec) Total O (#6, 1st SEC), #2 Final Ranking
2022: No Championships: Total D (#13, #3SEC), Total O (#17, 5th Sec) top ten ranking
I just don't think that is sucking. I'm hope that this year is an outlier,

Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:31 pm to
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Second. I would like to know what assignment was blown ( not that it will be stated) because it seems like the only plausible "blown assignment' scenario would be like saying "Hellams blew his assignment by not staying with a 4.3 receiver". In other words something so miraculous that it nearly impossible. Look at the Daniels run play. LBs 

He said someone made a mental error in the stunt they were running, which left a pass rush lane open. That's why there was such a gaping hole for Daniels, not that someone was asked to do something they were incapable of physically. He didn't name the player (nor should he). He was responding to a reporter's question about using a spy to watch the QB.

At about 8 minutes into the following link is where Saban discussed the play.
LINK Saban Press Conference
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 3:39 pm
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3168 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:42 pm to
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 said someone made a mental error in the stunt they were running, which left a pass rush lane open. That's why there was such a gaping hole for Daniels


Well no one "stunted" ...so that may be the problem but is that root issue the player or coach? 15 crashes down left ..42 goes up. But is the only "big" ( JBurroughs) supposed to be the one stunting? Because when all the others (lbs) got engaged with OL they were handled easily then have man behind it...so if your slowest guy ( if it were Burroughs) doesnt get there it's a free run. (Burroughs was diving at Daniels feet as he exited the pocket)

EtA ... Then on another 3rd and long and presumed pass down same drive. Golding runs it again and LSU plows ahead pushing Lbs past the 1st down marker ..easy peasy
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 5:35 pm
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