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re: Deboer and Penn State showing mutual interest

Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:31 am to
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
380 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:31 am to
He’s one iron bowl loss away from total disaster. The majority of this board will want him gone if he loses in 8 days. A contract extension at this point is premature.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15705 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:32 am to
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Deboer has some head scratching losses as our headcoach like Kiffin does at Ole Miss.


Agreed, but he also has a significantly better record than Kiffin against T25 teams and the only way to win a NC is to get through a playoff gauntlet...against T25 teams. So give me the guy who can do that.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
4712 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:33 am to
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As a HC?


Doesn't really matter... The HC doesn't call plays, the OC is responsible for that and he's done an excellent job at that everywhere he's been.

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Please list those accomplishments for me.


Do I really need to paraphrase his wiki page for you? To say he's done nothing is really unintelligent.
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
798 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:33 am to
I don’t think anyone reasonable will want him gone if we lose that game but an Iron Bowl win is also necessary to justify a contract extension at this point. 9-3 seasons shouldn’t get you raises at Alabama.
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
2944 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:36 am to
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Agreed, but he also has a significantly better record than Kiffin against T25 teams and the only way to win a NC is to get through a playoff gauntlet...against T25 teams. So give me the guy who can do that.

Deboer does have a much better record vs ranked teams and that speaks for itself. I dont want Deboer to leave. Im really hoping that next year is his year though
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15705 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:37 am to
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Doesn't really matter... The HC doesn't call plays, the OC is responsible for that and he's done an excellent job at that everywhere he's been.


So you're giving Bill O'Brien credit for BY's Heisman?

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Do I really need to paraphrase his wiki page for you? To say he's done nothing is really unintelligent.


Sorry, you're right. Aside from his CUSA titles, he hasn't won shite. I don't know what your standard is, but he hasn't won a division title, conference title, or NC while in the SEC. We should be measuring future Bama coaches on those standards.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10033 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:43 am to
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I don't know what your standard is, but he hasn't won a division title, conference title, or NC while in the SEC.


Edited because I'm a knucklehead.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 10:41 am
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15705 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:49 am to
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This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 9:51 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10033 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:50 am to
Sorry, I did think you were talking about KDB. If you were talking about Kiffin then I 100% agree with you.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15705 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:51 am to
No worries, I was talking about Kiffin!

Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4231 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:59 am to
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He’s one iron bowl loss away from total disaster.


9-3 is far from a total disaster. God this fanbase is spoiled.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
4712 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:04 am to
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So you're giving Bill O'Brien credit for BY's Heisman?


So you don't give any credit to the guy calling the plays and designing the offense?! Granted, Bob was pretty terrible, but he does get to claim having some amount of hand in it.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 10:06 am
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
1760 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:20 am to
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BTW, Jangalang one of the biggest Barners around is the one that started this mess on the Rant, do you really want to follow his lead?


That guy is arguably the littlest of all the Little Bros on the tRant. He also completely melts when called Litlle Bro. It’s hilarious.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15705 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:20 am to
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
4712 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:23 am to
Wouldn't penn State have to pay the buyout?

I think it's just sexton trying to negotiate more money. And I think it's ridiculous to bend to it at this time.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7945 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:45 am to
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If DeBoer leaves, I'd like us to make a run at Cristobal.


Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16120 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:53 am to
I think it's just Penn State having a source that said they'd like him.

Sexton can't be dumb enough to think DeBoer is in for a raise/extension right now.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1464 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:47 am to
I wouldn't be surprised if Sexton was fishing for an extension/pay raise for CKD. It's in his interest to do that because he, in turn, makes money. He has nothing to lose by doing so. It's not like CKD's salary is going to diminish if Sexton's efforts come to nothing.

I don't know if this rumor is true. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not. But I do know the pickings are incredibly slim if CKD did decide to leave. Lane isn't coming. Just about everyone else who's good either isn't coming (Marcus Freeman, Dan Lanning, Kirby. Brent Key) or is locked up in a long term contract (Sark, Curt Cignetti).

There are a few other "pretty good" (but not great) HCs out there like Matt Campbell, Dabo, etc and after that, I think you're looking at promising DCs or OCs like Glenn Schumann, Oregon OC Will Stein or OSU OC Brian Hartline. Not sure Bama would ever take a chance on an OC/DC unless we're maybe looking at a Mike Shula type situation.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2349 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:56 am to
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Not sure Bama would ever take a chance on an OC/DC unless we're maybe looking at a Mike Shula type situation.


That would be a bad move. Don't count out coordinators.

#1 Ohio State - Previous job was OC
# 4 UGA - Previous job was DC
# 6 Oregon - Previous job was DC
#7 Texas Tech - Previous job was a position coach, not even a coordinator.
#8 Oklahoma - Previous job was DC
#9 Notre Dame - Previous job was DC

So most of the top 10 coaches came into their current job without being a head coach.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 11:58 am
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1240 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:56 am to
Here's the problem with 9-3. Under the current playoff format it means we more than likely missed the playoffs every year. If he goes 9-3 again this season after being able to go 9-3 with that trainwreck called the 2024 season, then there should start to be some eyebrows raised. No one is calling for a firing, but another 9-3 season with a much better team isn't something you don't want to just chalk up as "a good season". We never should have lost the FSU game and honestly should be sitting with one loss right now. But here we are...
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