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re: Dabo Swinney

Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:50 pm to
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Saban also seems to lay an egg every year. 1 perfect season in his career.


It's pretty damn hard to go undefeated, especially with all the extra games now

2018 Clemson (15-0)
2013 Florida State (14-0)
2010 Auburn (14-0)
2009 Alabama (14-0)

4 teams in 13 years and before that the undefeateds only went 13-0 (or 12-0)

It's pretty frickin difficult
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Saban also seems to lay an egg every year. 1 perfect season in his career.


Wait, where are these modern-era coaches who have multiple undefeated, championship seasons laying around?

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Urban Meyer has 1.

Dabo Swinney has 1.

Jimbo Fisher has 1.

Mack Brown has 1.

Pete Carroll has 1.

Bob Stoops has 1.

Bobby Bowden has 1.

Dude, the more research I do, the more stupid your post looks.

This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:59 pm to
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Dude, the more research I do, the more stupid your post looks.


Hell - Saban only has 1
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:09 pm to
It would come off as disingenuous for Saban. He is who he is and very successful. Just find kids that fit your philosophy.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Urban Meyer has 1.

Urban doesn't have 1...his UF national champs ('06 & '08) both had a loss and so did his OSU national championship team ('14)...

I think his only undefeated teams were at Bowling Green and Utah...maybe you were thinking Jim Tressel...

Since you included Bowden, there was also Fulmer with one during the BCS era...and if you count the BCA era (92-97, pre-cursor to the BCS), you'd also have Stallings (1), Osborne (3), and Carr (1)...
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Dick Tracy
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2016
692 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:13 pm to
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Wait, where are these modern era coaches
The point was that Dabo laid an egg every year. I was simply pointing out Saban does also.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:14 pm to
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Urban doesn't have 1...his UF national champs ('06 & '08) both had a loss and so did his OSU national championship team ('14)...

I think his only undefeated teams were at Bowling Green and Utah...


My apologies. I was quickly scanning these coaches' wiki pages, and I saw Meyer's 12-0 OSU in 2012. Undefeated, but no championship.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:48 pm to
I will say Dabo is annoying in some post games. He attributes their football success to God and trust me having a great relationship with God is great. But do you think he cares about who wins a football game? You recruited some of the best football talent in the world and he acts like it’s a Miracle when they have success. It may come off as really petty of me but I don’t like that aspect of him. I still greatly respect him though as he is a great coach and is a very good role model.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:51 pm to
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I will say Dabo is annoying in some post games. He attributes their football success to God and trust me having a great relationship with God is great. But do you think he cares about who wins a football game? You recruited some of the best football talent in the world and he acts like it’s a Miracle when they have success. It may come off as really petty of me but I don’t like that aspect of him. I still greatly respect him though as he is a great coach and is a very good role model.




I don't think he ever says he is thanking God for helping them win, I think he generally thanks God for the blessing he has been given to be at Clemson and be able to work hard and all that stuff.

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:54 pm to
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Many have mentioned the weak schedule, but one major factor is the type of culture he's created. Sure, he retains his staff, but he also retains his players. Clemson has had a lot of players decide to stay an extra year when they'd have for sure left if they had been playing somewhere else. Hell, they have an team-wide (including any and all family members), family-style dinner every Thursday. That kinda stuff plays well with a large percentage of humans.

How good could Bama have been if certain guys had given Bama one more year?


We would have 1-3 more titles if a fraction of our early entries had stayed. All the credit to Dabo for creating that culture. Like I said, he has proven that you don’t have to have Saban’s “process” to be successful. A lot of people value quality of life and Dabo has made that a selling point.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:59 pm to
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How many competitive games did Bama play this season? UGA was the only one; some will say Miss State and LSU but we beat them by a combined score of 53-0 and those games were never in doubt...


It doesn’t matter how well we played against teams like AU, LSU and Miss State. Games like that take their toll. Not only are they physically taxing but those teams have coaches that are good enough to show things on film for other teams to use. Our November - December run was nothing like what Clemson had to face.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6458 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:24 pm to
Dabo's single greatest trait is how much he fvckin HATES Auburn
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22545 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:46 pm to
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Do you guys think Saban could benefit from a little bit of Dabo’s approach in terms of the ability to retain assistants or do you think programs are so desperate for Saban disciples that it’s just not going to happen?


Dabo is Dabo and Saban is Saban.
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