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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:42 am
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:42 am
What, in your opinion, are the attributes that have taken Dabo Swinney from WR coach to 2x national champion HC at a program hasn’t had a ton of success historically?
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:52 am to Globetrotter747
- He can recruit
- Created a culture that has allowed him to retain his staff
- Sold the Clemson administration on the need to go all in on resources for the program
Also doesn’t hurt that he’s in the ACC where he doesn’t have to compete with any other top tier program.
- Created a culture that has allowed him to retain his staff
- Sold the Clemson administration on the need to go all in on resources for the program
Also doesn’t hurt that he’s in the ACC where he doesn’t have to compete with any other top tier program.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:25 am to Globetrotter747
Phenomenal teacher.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:41 am to FairhopeTider
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- He can recruit
- Created a culture that has allowed him to retain his staff
- Sold the Clemson administration on the need to go all in on resources for the program
Also doesn’t hurt that he’s in the ACC where he doesn’t have to compete with any other top tier program.
All true.
He also seems to be a coach that kids love to play for.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:41 am to Globetrotter747
Do you guys think Saban could benefit from a little bit of Dabo’s approach in terms of the ability to retain assistants or do you think programs are so desperate for Saban disciples that it’s just not going to happen?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:44 am to Globetrotter747
Good recruiting
Good scheme
Good assistants
Shitty conference
Luck
Good scheme
Good assistants
Shitty conference
Luck
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:52 am to Globetrotter747
PEDs
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:02 am to Globetrotter747
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programs are so desperate for Saban disciples that it’s just not going to happen?
This!!
Saban is also older and deeper set in his ways(being old school and having those influences) whereas Dabo, being younger has had to find and mold what works for him. He does have that infectious personality to boot.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:12 am to UAgrad93
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He does have that infectious personality to boot
I'll disagree with that. He comes off as being annoying as frick.
And keep that bastard away from Tuscaloosa.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 8:35 am
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:17 am to pvilleguru
Elevated the talent at Clemson
Hired and maintained excellent coordinators
And the most important part
Plays a 3 game season.
One thing to consider with the eggs his teams lay every year how many playoffs would he make in the SEC?
Hired and maintained excellent coordinators
And the most important part
Plays a 3 game season.
One thing to consider with the eggs his teams lay every year how many playoffs would he make in the SEC?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:28 am to JB Bama
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One thing to consider with the eggs his teams lay every year how many playoffs would he make in the SEC?
They lost @Syracuse when their QB got hurt and lost to a pretty good Pitt team on a last second kick. That's two regular seasons losses in the past four years, but people act like Dabo is Bob Stoops or Urban recently.
The SEC hasn't even been good recently either, and the SEC East hasn't been any better than the ACC Atlantic. Not to mention Clemson plays two regular season games against SEC teams basically every year.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:40 am to Globetrotter747
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Do you guys think Saban could benefit from a little bit of Dabo’s approach in terms of the ability to retain assistants or do you think programs are so desperate for Saban disciples that it’s just not going to happen?
There’s more than one way to skin a cat. Saban’s approach works. Dabo’s approach works. No doubt they adapt their methods as time goes on like most good leaders/managers do.
The only thing I like about Dabo over Saban is the continuity he’s maintained with his staff. I think that’s a huge reason for Clemson’s success.
I remember when Bowden got fired from Clemson and a few reporters said that was a sleeping a giant because it was an SEC-type program/fanbase in the ACC. Which almost made it more appealing than an SEC job. That the path to a Championship didn’t have a lot of a resistance if they could ever get going. Looking back, that was an accurate assessment.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:46 am to Globetrotter747
Dabo is one of those people that tends to "stick" to you, personality wise. His players and coaches love him.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:49 am to Globetrotter747
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Do you guys think Saban could benefit from a little bit of Dabo’s approach in terms of the ability to retain assistants or do you think programs are so desperate for Saban disciples that it’s just not going to happen?
No
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:02 am to stomp
Dabo is a better motivator than CNS. Now that has its pluses and minuses. They play to the level of their opponent almost always whether that be up or down.
He’s a good person and people enjoy working and playing for him. It’s not all business.
He’s a good person and people enjoy working and playing for him. It’s not all business.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:25 am to Globetrotter747
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Do you guys think Saban could benefit from a little bit of Dabo’s approach in terms of the ability to retain assistants or do you think programs are so desperate for Saban disciples that it’s just not going to happen?
In the current environment, it's just not going to happen. The demand is just too high. Some of them are clearly ready to move up, while some get the benefit of having been inside the system and aren't capable of carrying it on to wherever they go next, but the demand is there anyway.
Saban's best bet for stability is to find a small core group of older guys (and I think Sunseri fits this mold) who are most likely looking for a place to finish out their careers, and then flesh out the staff with the younger guys who are still hungry and looking to move up every year or two.
ETA - Not sure why Globetrotter was downvoted for his post. It's a legitimate question.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/20/19 at 11:52 am to JB Bama
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Plays a 3 game season.
How many competitive games did Bama play this season? UGA was the only one; some will say Miss State and LSU but we beat them by a combined score of 53-0 and those games were never in doubt...
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One thing to consider with the eggs his teams lay every year...
What eggs did his team lay this past year?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:04 pm to OldPete
Saban also seems to lay an egg every year. 1 perfect season in his career. He's also an a-hole and hard to work for. But, a damn great football coach.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:46 pm to FairhopeTider
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- He can recruit
- Created a culture that has allowed him to retain his staff
- Sold the Clemson administration on the need to go all in on resources for the program
Many have mentioned the weak schedule, but one major factor is the type of culture he's created. Sure, he retains his staff, but he also retains his players. Clemson has had a lot of players decide to stay an extra year when they'd have for sure left if they had been playing somewhere else. Hell, they have an team-wide (including any and all family members), family-style dinner every Thursday. That kinda stuff plays well with a large percentage of humans.
How good could Bama have been if certain guys had given Bama one more year?
EDIT: I'm not knocking Saban or any other coach - just calling Dabo's win for what it is.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:48 pm to pvilleguru
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I'll disagree with that. He comes off as being annoying as frick.
And keep that bastard away from Tuscaloosa.
It's always nice to see someone dissolve a little petty in their Hatorade.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 12:49 pm
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