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re: College Football has become so fricking stupid.

Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10614 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:04 pm to
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It has nothing to do with “treating people well.” Did Caleb Downs say anything negative on his way to OSU? The simple fact is fans would rather recruit players from other states and win than kids from Alabama and lose. They would rather get a great player out of the portal and put an average fifth year senior on the bench if it means winning another game. Fans want to win with whoever can do the winning, even if it means mercenaries. The fans only care about winning, and the players and coaches only care about money and opportunity. No one is loyal and everyone is looking out for their own interests.



You made the claim that fans were unloyal to the players. All those words you just typed and you still havent backed up your claim that fans are unloyal to players. Are you now conceding that your claim isnt true?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5385 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 1:00 pm to
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You made the claim that fans were unloyal to the players. All those words you just typed and you still havent backed up your claim that fans are unloyal to players. Are you now conceding that your claim isnt true?

If it’s “unloyal” for a player to transfer, why is it not “unloyal” for a program to bring in a better player through the portal and put an established player who’s been in the program on the bench?

It’s not a difficult point to understand.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1911 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:44 pm to
You have to buy your roster every offseason. Players are unloyal mercenaries
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6645 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:18 pm to
So basically what it amounts to is like the AHSAA….The private schools that can recruit playing the public schools that have to use players in their school district. Makes total sense now!
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10614 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 4:07 pm to
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If it’s “unloyal” for a player to transfer, why is it not “unloyal” for a program to bring in a better player through the portal and put an established player who’s been in the program on the bench?


Again, please cite how FANS are unloyal to players. Maybe you can tell us what you had for dinner last night as the next explanation. Itd be equally as relevant as your last two answers. The fans dont bring in transfers. Coaches do.

Fans are loyal to their team...and by defacto the players who play for the team. What the coaches in an offseason is irrelevant to the question of whether fans are disloyal to the players(which you asserted)
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5385 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 7:30 pm to
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The fans dont bring in transfers. Coaches do.

The coaches are an extension of fan expectations - and it’s all about winning (for every major program) with whatever players can win.

No one is loyal.

Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10614 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 7:34 pm to
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The coaches are an extension of fan expectations - and it’s all about winning (for every major program) with whatever players can win. No one is loyal.


No you are just making a stupid arse argument and shouldnt be taken seriously
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46149 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Exec 1: “What if… we took the worst aspects of the NFL, enhanced them by making contracts vague and year to year while asking fans to pay more and more while giving them less and less in return?”

Exec 2: “Brilliant! Then when we’ve taken that as far as it can go we’ll invite private equity in to maximize profits while destroying any vestiges of brand loyalty!”


Enshittification. Look it up. MBAs are a cancer.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5385 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:37 pm to
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No you are just making a stupid arse argument and shouldnt be taken seriously

Ha! You can think what you want, but players and coaches care about money and opportunities and fans care about wins.

And nothing else matters.

Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11842 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 10:57 pm to
They USED TO represent your university and most even had pride in the jersey they wore. But then we let money and big business infiltrate the sport and they have ruined it for their own gain. I have been watching Alabama football for over 50 years. Most of it has been very enjoyable and engrossing. I never missed a Bama game either on TV or the radio. The players cared about giving their all and they cared about winning. Most of them weren’t going pro so they played for the love of the game and their school. You could only transfer one time without a waiver from the NCAA, and you had to sit out a year if you did so you could count transfers on one hand. Players got a degree because most of them were going to need it. The traditions and pageantry and rivalries were embraced as part of the fabric of the sport. Regionalism was strong. You only got to see your team on TV 3 or 4 times a year if you were lucky and rooted for the blue bloods. If you were an Ole Miss or a South Carolina fan, you would only get to watch your team on TV if they were playing a blue blood, usually only once a year. It all worked and the sport was fun. It remained fun when ABC’s monopoly on college football was broken and suddenly the number of televised games exploded. You could watch college football from 11am until past midnight on Saturdays. The bowls were relevant as they decided who won the natty.

Then about the time expansion started was the beginning of the end of the sport and since then it’s been pretty much all downhill until now we are left with this commercialized, bastardized version of professional college football where everyone is just looking for a buck, nobody cares who or what they are playing for. There is no loyalty, no school pride, rivalries are thrown aside and your roster changes by about 50% every year, as new mercenaries are brought in to replace the old ones who have moved on to a bigger paycheck, either in the NFL or in Texas. Championships aren’t won on the field or in recruiting, they are won in the NIL collective. I no longer care to spend my Saturdays glued to the TV as the sport is unwatchable. I’ll never understand why we had to go and kill the game I loved so much.
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” should be the epitaph on college football’s headstone. We fixed it to death.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5080 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 11:19 pm to
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I'd rather Bama sit on money than participate in this nonsense.


that's where I'm at. I'd rather not even participate in it. Field a team of guys that love the school. Coach them up to be the best players / men possible and move on with it.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19000 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 7:46 am to
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The simple fact is fans would rather recruit players from other states and win than kids from Alabama and lose. They would rather get a great player out of the portal and put an average fifth year senior on the bench if it means winning another game. Fans want to win with whoever can do the winning, even if it means mercenaries.


I just want to see kids playing who want to play for Alabama. I want to see them playing Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State every year. Let the 4-5 star mercenary types go play in a minor league, and let college football go back to being played by student athletes. If I cared more about watching the very best players play for money I’d watch the NFL. As it is now, I’d rather watch a high school game
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5099 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:16 am to
I have no problem with the sentiment, but the cynic in me says that would last about as long as the first time we got a mudhole stomped in us by one of those rich teams.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10751 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:20 am to
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College football will become basically a club sport


College baseball is not like Football and Basketbatll.

Precisely because there's a minor league in baseball.

If college football looked more like college baseball, we wouldn't love it any less. That's what it was before all the money started coming. Gene Stallings made 500k at his peak. Over a million today adjusted for inflation.

The top coaches are getting 10x that now. How long did we expect players to sit around and look at that and ask: "what about me?"
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51191 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:28 am to
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that's where I'm at. I'd rather not even participate in it. Field a team of guys that love the school. Coach them up to be the best players / men possible and move on with it.

Yeah, but at that point you might as well shut down the program. We would just be a punching bag for everyone else and the team would be losing money.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5099 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:30 am to
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The top coaches are getting 10x that now. How long did we expect players to sit around and look at that and ask: "what about me?"


When the big money came in, where we are today was inevitable.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19745 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:32 am to
Im not opposed to it. Put money in bball and build up a soccer program then call it a day.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13048 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:36 am to
It wasn't a problem for players to just receive a scholly for 80 years or so. What really changed on the rosters?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19745 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:42 am to
Have we done a comprehensive breakdown on NIL? I'm under the assumption the poorer the student is, etc. plays a factor in nil. Arch Manning gives nil back bc his family is rich, I don't see that happening with Joe Poor.
Posted by 11and18gggchamp
Tuscaloosa, Al
Member since Jan 2021
2061 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 12:15 pm to
Make no mistake, public high schools are recruiting as much as private schools. Kids transferring high schools left and right. AHSAA does nothing about it.
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