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Posted on 7/4/26 at 12:38 pm to Sandkhan
Posted on 7/4/26 at 12:38 pm to Sandkhan
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and another who grew up being called “Bama”
If you assume he was such a huge fan because he's just a frontrunning clout chaser trying to talk shite on social media his interest in the programs he's showing interest in, while simultaneously having absolutely none in a program he claims to be a huge fan of, suddenly makes a ton of sense.
Sabb, like I said, appears to be a miscalculation though. If he's all about the bag, and his choice of Oregon says he is, that's something that should have been picked up on before signing the middle brother who likely won't ever play a meaningful down here. It's like if we had taken Keenan Allen's brother back in the day and he still went elsewhere, which is if course why Saban didn't do package deals like that.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/4/26 at 12:54 pm to Robot Santa
Yeah I agree with you on each of these cases.
I’m a huge fan of Haven and I like Newkirk a lot as well so there’s some positives here.
I sometimes worry about perception becoming reality for recruits and if we get too far from being seen as a hot school for these players then that could be not great but most of them are just chasing a check so I’m not sure it matters anymore. We’ll be as hot as our checkbook allows us to be.
I’m a huge fan of Haven and I like Newkirk a lot as well so there’s some positives here.
I sometimes worry about perception becoming reality for recruits and if we get too far from being seen as a hot school for these players then that could be not great but most of them are just chasing a check so I’m not sure it matters anymore. We’ll be as hot as our checkbook allows us to be.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 1:35 pm to Robot Santa
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Then we spend the money that was earmarked for those players on the portal.
I think my problem with that logic is that it still ends up being a roster build deficit because:
It is cheaper to retain in most cases than portal and cheaper still to sign out of high school. At least that seems to be the general theme you hear on the matter.
So if we HAVE to spend in the portal we’re probably coming out of the matter net negative in terms of just raw numbers if not overall talent.
Maybe that read on the “what if retention is not what they expect after this season” scenario is not how it will go. However, it feels like it is how it would go given how we’ve spent in the past.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 2:31 pm to Diego Ricardo
It’s not that Alabama does not have the money for this player, but they are unwilling to spend what it would take to get this 3 star because they don’t believe the price is justified.
Claims that Alabama is NIL poor are false. They are estimated to be 3td in the SEC this year at $30 mil, behind LSU and one of the Texas schools. Most of that is for retention.
Clinton-Dix, director of player development, said in response to the hue and cry upon the departure of James Smith, “Why? Where is the production?” Good point, he had 25 tackles and 2 or 3 sacks for the year. He also had 2 awful personal foul penalties. One vs FSU was critical. In the “blowout” loss, Alabama was trailing by 7 in the 4the qtr, he committed a crucial, meaningless, volitional, unwise personal foul after Bama had stopped them on 3rd down to get the ball back and possibly tie the score. I forget when the other was committed, but it was similar in nature.
Again, Alabama is not out of money but relatively strategic and disciplined in their spending. They are supposedly offering a boatload to Sales, maybe whatever it takes, if he really wants to come. They apparently consider him that important. (These comments re: Sales are not based on any inside info but the impressions left on me by the comments of others who do.)
Things are simply not as many think and say. Only time will tell if their approach will be successful. Their proven ability as great evaluators of talent is the key. I’m very optimistic and believe it is Alabama’s best, probably only, path to great success in the current environment.
Claims that Alabama is NIL poor are false. They are estimated to be 3td in the SEC this year at $30 mil, behind LSU and one of the Texas schools. Most of that is for retention.
Clinton-Dix, director of player development, said in response to the hue and cry upon the departure of James Smith, “Why? Where is the production?” Good point, he had 25 tackles and 2 or 3 sacks for the year. He also had 2 awful personal foul penalties. One vs FSU was critical. In the “blowout” loss, Alabama was trailing by 7 in the 4the qtr, he committed a crucial, meaningless, volitional, unwise personal foul after Bama had stopped them on 3rd down to get the ball back and possibly tie the score. I forget when the other was committed, but it was similar in nature.
Again, Alabama is not out of money but relatively strategic and disciplined in their spending. They are supposedly offering a boatload to Sales, maybe whatever it takes, if he really wants to come. They apparently consider him that important. (These comments re: Sales are not based on any inside info but the impressions left on me by the comments of others who do.)
Things are simply not as many think and say. Only time will tell if their approach will be successful. Their proven ability as great evaluators of talent is the key. I’m very optimistic and believe it is Alabama’s best, probably only, path to great success in the current environment.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 2:42 pm to tattoo
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Things are simply not as many think and say. Only time will tell if their approach will be successful. Their proven ability as great evaluators of talent is the key. I’m very optimistic and believe it is Alabama’s best, probably only, path to great success in the current environment.
Right, and I am only saying it is as easy to see how this strategy goes wrong as it is to see how it goes as planned.
I think the strategy is a valid one to attempt but it is higher risk strategy than frick you money
Posted on 7/4/26 at 2:49 pm to Sandkhan
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1 who has two brothers on the team
I think someone mentioned it earlier but it seems that there was very little to no interest by Saab in coming to Alabama. They weren't even mentioned in his announcement as one of the schools Oregon beat out.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 2:55 pm to Diego Ricardo
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This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 7/4/26 at 3:22 pm to Diego Ricardo
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but I think it is higher risk strategy than frick you money
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I agree, but as you know, Alabama does not have “frick you money”, thus it is her only path.
This brings us to a larger issue: as the University most dependent upon football for its identity, IMO, it behooves the institution itself to provide the funds needed to compete on a level field with the Jed Clampets, shoe cobblers, et al. George Denny’s name is rightly on the Stadium and Robert Witt should be more greatly honored because they and others including Rose and Matthews understood, established, then maintained or revived it. I.e., the University itself could decline catastrophically if they allow Alabama’s football fortunes to decline precipitously.
They are not at the edge yet, but IMO, it’s something they need to be thinking about. I assume they are, but who knows?
but I think it is higher risk strategy than frick you money
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I agree, but as you know, Alabama does not have “frick you money”, thus it is her only path.
This brings us to a larger issue: as the University most dependent upon football for its identity, IMO, it behooves the institution itself to provide the funds needed to compete on a level field with the Jed Clampets, shoe cobblers, et al. George Denny’s name is rightly on the Stadium and Robert Witt should be more greatly honored because they and others including Rose and Matthews understood, established, then maintained or revived it. I.e., the University itself could decline catastrophically if they allow Alabama’s football fortunes to decline precipitously.
They are not at the edge yet, but IMO, it’s something they need to be thinking about. I assume they are, but who knows?
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/4/26 at 3:38 pm to tattoo
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This brings us to a larger issue: as the University most dependent upon football for its identity, IMO, it behooves the institution itself to provide the funds needed to compete on a level field with the Jed Clampets, shoe cobblers, et al
I don’t know what this looks like though. There’s nothing we can do from a money raising standpoint that other teams who already are ahead of us aren’t already doing.
I will personally absolutely hate the date an ad is placed on our jersey. But LSU is ready to put a tramp stamp on their garbage arse jerseys if it means Lane has an extra WR to throw to. Teams will be whoring out their stadium names and everything else so we’ll only be keeping up with the Jones’ while giving up the best traditions in the sports.
We have the highest social media following in major college athletics but those followers don’t seemingly have an appetite for helping the team be good in any way.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 3:45 pm to tattoo
Delete. Don't want to drive down that road on this board.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 7/4/26 at 4:14 pm to Sandkhan
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I don’t know what this looks like though. There’s nothing we can do from a money raising standpoint that other teams who already are ahead of us aren’t already doing.
I will personally absolutely hate the date an ad is placed on our jersey. But LSU is ready to put a tramp stamp on their garbage arse jerseys if it means Lane has an extra WR to throw to. Teams will be whoring out their stadium names and everything else so we’ll only be keeping up with the Jones’ while giving up the best traditions in the sports.
We have the highest social media following in major college athletics but those followers don’t seemingly have an appetite for helping the team be good in any way.
You're hitting on the big point. At some point, the brand and traditions behind college football is completely eroded away and it just makes more sense to follow the NFL exclusively. The NFL is not an anachronism stuck in an unworkable middle ground, it is a professional sports league fully aware of how to maximize competition in an equitable way that keeps even Jets fans hooked despite all logic saying they should abandon ship. All it takes is a few good picks or a free agency win and you're a contender in the NFL. However nobody can overawe the sport because they're a bigger billionaire than the others.
The University of Alabama has some hard problems to confront if our strategy does not turn out to be the path to consistent contention for championships. Too much of the University's financial stability is dependent on this place being a fun "student life" option. I deleted my post above because I expounded on this more than I care to given the subject area but I do not think it is politically feasible for the University to make an elite academics play if the athletics-based student life story flounders. Sure, we're better academically than we have been previously but I'm talking about making a stab at becoming like UT-Austin or Cal-Berkley...top public higher education institutions in almost every field.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 7/4/26 at 5:46 pm to Sandkhan
20025/2026/2027 classes:
QB: Russell/Haven
RB: Crowell/Dear/Brown
TE: Sutter/Edwards
T: Loyd/Cooley/Doughty
IOL: Waldrep/Carroll/Haywood
WR: Brooks/Meadows/Morgan/Gayles
Edge: Justin Hill
DE: J. Matthews
DT: N. Wilson
NT: L. Simmons
LB: Duke Johnson
LB: Xavier Griffin
CB: D. Lee
CB: J. Edmonds
S: Ivan Taylor
S: Jireh Edwards
- left off several names (including starters) bc I got tired of typing.
- All these guys are either 2nd year players or still in high school
- does not include a single transfer
- The roster is exponentially better than the one CKD inherited in 2024. The QB/WR/RB/DL position groups were in shambles.
QB: Russell/Haven
RB: Crowell/Dear/Brown
TE: Sutter/Edwards
T: Loyd/Cooley/Doughty
IOL: Waldrep/Carroll/Haywood
WR: Brooks/Meadows/Morgan/Gayles
Edge: Justin Hill
DE: J. Matthews
DT: N. Wilson
NT: L. Simmons
LB: Duke Johnson
LB: Xavier Griffin
CB: D. Lee
CB: J. Edmonds
S: Ivan Taylor
S: Jireh Edwards
- left off several names (including starters) bc I got tired of typing.
- All these guys are either 2nd year players or still in high school
- does not include a single transfer
- The roster is exponentially better than the one CKD inherited in 2024. The QB/WR/RB/DL position groups were in shambles.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 5:57 pm to Cover1Key
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RB: Crowell/Dear/Brown
Tremendous potential if Crowell pans out. What I don't get is why there hasn't been anymore mention of AK Dear this off-season. I was hoping he would step up and take rb1 but that doesn't seem to be the case. No offense to Daniel Hill but if he's our best option I don't foresee much improvement in the run game.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 6:04 pm to Chris ALL Capps
People probably lost faith in Dear because we were trash ant running it and he couldn’t get on the field. They lose sight of tailback being a position that we may benefit in bringing in transfers more than most offensive skill positions because there is a lot asked of them. We need great zone run vision. We need great pass protection both on straight drops and off their run fake. We need good receiving out of the backfield. Texas swooping in on Smothers was tough because I think we could be limited in 2026 at tailback if there isn’t big progress from the 2nd and 3rd year players.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 7/4/26 at 6:28 pm to Diego Ricardo
Crowell is a monster. I am honestly going to be shocked if he isnt RB2 by game 3 or 4. Hes a legit heisman caliber RB.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 8:17 pm to crimsoncoded94
I hope so. I think we should definitely figure out how to adjust the offense to get talent on the field at tailback.
Last year we played 3 very Shula-era-esque tailbacks all season but felt that Dear at least had the juice to pop a big run or two per game. Gotta think that difficulty with picking up the offense kept him in 4th position despite being a better pure athlete than the 3 above him.
Last year we played 3 very Shula-era-esque tailbacks all season but felt that Dear at least had the juice to pop a big run or two per game. Gotta think that difficulty with picking up the offense kept him in 4th position despite being a better pure athlete than the 3 above him.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:08 pm to Sandkhan
Think of it as a “small money class”
instead of a “small recruiting class” and that should help it make more sense.
Last years were “small classes” bc they were only 21-23 players respectively, but they were full of top100 caliber players.
Next year the money saved from this class will go towards what should be another top-3/top-5 caliber class for 2027-2028.
instead of a “small recruiting class” and that should help it make more sense.
Last years were “small classes” bc they were only 21-23 players respectively, but they were full of top100 caliber players.
Next year the money saved from this class will go towards what should be another top-3/top-5 caliber class for 2027-2028.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 8:07 am to Tide or Die87
Small money classes make sense. People don’t like when you consider anything but the “everything coming up tide” angle but it could backfire. That’s all I’ve been saying. Seeing most big recruits with their name attached to ours go the other way then saying “all according to plan” is fine and all but there are parts of the plan that nobody really controls. Of course, I think the backfire hinges on DeBoer putting a bad product on the field. While he’s had some stinkers, he’s basically produced an overall success team each year he’s been a HC. However, injuries are fickle and mean even more in this depthless era. So your team suffers the wrong injuries early enough in the season, it can turn miserable quick, fast, and in a hurry.
Posted on 7/5/26 at 9:50 am to Diego Ricardo
I understand what you're saying, but I think the idea that one disaster season can frick your roster applies to basically everyone these days. If the season goes so sideways that the coaching staff is never going to recover from it (see: FSU a couple of years ago or Jumbo's last couple of years at Aggy) the portal and automatic eligibility means you're going to lose a ton of guys. But I'm talking like 5-7, miss a bowl game, tons of smoke about the locker room being a toxic hell hole, a couple of press conference meltdowns, etc. rather than a disappointing 9-3.
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