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Posted on 7/4/26 at 7:27 am to Amarillo Tide
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I know, I know, we're gonna have a small class this year but whiffing on a 3 star WR to MARYLAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I don't care how anyone spins it but that's a terrible look.
That's more forgivable to me. That 3-star is worth more to Maryland, undoubtedly.
Tough to be so off on money you can't even land a kid whose first two brothers are playing here and he may be the best of the bunch.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 7:29 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 8:41 am to Diego Ricardo
Yeah I mean I’m ok with a smaller class but you still have to sign a few great players.
Losing out on Sales and Saab is a big gut punch. I’d be fine with getting just one.
I read a thing yesterday where I think only like only 16 of the top 150 players are uncommitted and were not likely to land any of them.
I understand the smaller class/retention but I don’t see how you can punt on an entire recruiting cycle and think that’s a great strategy. And it’s not like we’re breaking in a new staff. This is pretty much the same staff for a third straight year and should have roots and relationships in the area.
Losing out on Sales and Saab is a big gut punch. I’d be fine with getting just one.
I read a thing yesterday where I think only like only 16 of the top 150 players are uncommitted and were not likely to land any of them.
I understand the smaller class/retention but I don’t see how you can punt on an entire recruiting cycle and think that’s a great strategy. And it’s not like we’re breaking in a new staff. This is pretty much the same staff for a third straight year and should have roots and relationships in the area.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 8:42 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 8:49 am to Sandkhan
Id be happy to be wrong about all of this and for us to go on a run this year and retain everyone and have a great class next year.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 8:53 am to Sandkhan
Right, I'm totally on board with small class because underclassman heavy roster. That is sound. However, this class runs the risk of having so many gaps in it that if we have less retention that we anticipate after 2026 then we're in a really fricked roster situation.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 9:17 am to Diego Ricardo
Yeah and IF for whatever reason this season goes left and there’s all this immense pressure on DeBoer in year 4 that doesn’t lend itself to bringing in a great class either because big boosters get very tight pocketed for coaches the see as lame ducks. They don’t throw good money after bad money.
We’re seeing this at FSU now where their boosters are not spending in NiL because they’re preparing to use that to buyout Norvell
We’re seeing this at FSU now where their boosters are not spending in NiL because they’re preparing to use that to buyout Norvell
Posted on 7/4/26 at 9:46 am to Diego Ricardo
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Tough to be so off on money you can't even land a kid whose first two brothers are playing here and he may be the best of the bunch
I don't think he ever had any genuine interest in the program so taking the middle brother was probably a miscalculation by the staff. You aren't going to outbid Oregon if they want a player because Nike, and no player who has interest in Oregon has much interest in anything but money, so there's really just no point in involving yourself in the recruitment of a player with a lot of mutual interest in Oregon. We see it year after year.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:01 am to Robot Santa
Tangentially related to recruiting, I’m playing the new CFB game from EA and our offense in this game is annoying as hell.
They added the presnap shift to almost every play so if you take more than 5 seconds picking a play you are risking a delay of game. Which considering the amount of timeouts we took last year doing all of that I guess is realistic but I think the school gets more NiL money the more players use Alabama.
Add EASports to the conspirators trying to hold us down.
They added the presnap shift to almost every play so if you take more than 5 seconds picking a play you are risking a delay of game. Which considering the amount of timeouts we took last year doing all of that I guess is realistic but I think the school gets more NiL money the more players use Alabama.
Add EASports to the conspirators trying to hold us down.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:12 am to Sandkhan
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I understand the smaller class/retention but I don’t see how you can punt on an entire recruiting cycle and think that’s a great strategy.
It's not a great strategy. I just think unless you are a top ~5 NIL job (Texas, Aggy, Oregon, Miami, Ohio State, Texas Tech) there isn't a great strategy for approaching this bullshite. Unless you literally have enough money to pay a kid more to sit on your bench an extra year than anyone else can pay him to start, every approach has at least one huge downside. The downside to our approach is that if you are going to prioritize the guys already on the roster there are going to be cycles where there's literally nothing to sell besides the program itself. You can't sell early PT because you're loaded with underclassmen. You can't offer money because most of it is earmarked for end of year raises. The vast majority of current day recruits don't give a frick about things like history, prestige, development, playing in the best venues in the country, etc. because they can set themselves financially for life without ever making it to the NFL now. If you don't have PT or money to offer, you just don't have much to recruit with. If it's this terrible next year I'll be panicking with the rest of you, but until that happens I think this class is just the reality of modern recruiting.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:31 am to Robot Santa
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If it's this terrible next year I'll be panicking with the rest of you, but until that happens I think this class is just the reality of modern recruiting.
Absolute truth.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:44 am to Sandkhan
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I think the school gets more NiL money the more players use Alabama.
Are you saying EA will pay the University of Alabama money towards our NIL budget if random gamers select Alabama to play with in the game?
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:51 am to TideSaint
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:51 am to Robot Santa
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If it's this terrible next year I'll be panicking with the rest of you, but until that happens I think this class is just the reality of modern recruiting.
I’m of this mindset too. Doesn’t change that we’re playing a game dependent on a lot of ifs and buts with this roster past 2026. I understand the logic but if this season isn’t encouraging to the roster on campus then we may have attrition we weren’t betting on … and what then?
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:58 am to YStar
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he has always leaned Democrat.
This is urban legend and not true.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:59 am to TideSaint
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Are you saying EA will pay the University of Alabama money towards our NIL budget if random gamers select Alabama to play with in the game?
To my understanding, yes. Delaware had a whole campaign for this last year asking gamers to use them so they could bolster their NiL a bit.
It’s probably a drop in the bucket. Like a Spotify stream where the artist gets a fraction of a penny for each stream.
I’m mostly just joking about EA being a conspirator
Posted on 7/4/26 at 11:01 am to Sandkhan
Posted on 7/4/26 at 11:18 am to Amarillo Tide
You understand the point of having “a small class” is to save NIL money, not the number of scholarships available correct?
Signing some “great players” would cost the same as what they’ve done these past 3 years.
Bama is the only school with three consecutive top3 classes, and most all of them are developing well and are still on the roster.
Fans are still thinking of recruiting in terms of pre-NIL. A small class of 15 that includes 5 top50 players is going to cost the same as what they’ve been spending.
It’s better to think of it as a “cheap” class as opposed to a “small class”. Again, look at the players who will be entering their 3rd year or less on this current roster and you will see as many former top100 recruits as any team in the conference,
This years cycle was extremely down both nationally and in-state. Next year’s class is the most talent the State of Alabama has produced in over a decade.
Now, if they didn’t already have a very talented 2-deep of underclassman on the current roster then I would understand the cause for concern.
The staff has proven they can clearly recruit at the highest level. I’m quite certain that CM and CKD have a much better understanding of Bama’s NIL budget…that includes what they are paying the current roster, money to spend on bringing guys back for their final year of eligibility in the offseason (Z Brown), and also what they have budgeted for transfers. I’m quite confident they aren’t just sitting on millions of dollars bc they don’t feel like having Monshun Sales on the roster.
Again, what good is signing a 5-star LB in this 2027 Class, only to lose Xavier Griffin off the current roster bc you can’t afford to keep him after next season?
Signing some “great players” would cost the same as what they’ve done these past 3 years.
Bama is the only school with three consecutive top3 classes, and most all of them are developing well and are still on the roster.
Fans are still thinking of recruiting in terms of pre-NIL. A small class of 15 that includes 5 top50 players is going to cost the same as what they’ve been spending.
It’s better to think of it as a “cheap” class as opposed to a “small class”. Again, look at the players who will be entering their 3rd year or less on this current roster and you will see as many former top100 recruits as any team in the conference,
This years cycle was extremely down both nationally and in-state. Next year’s class is the most talent the State of Alabama has produced in over a decade.
Now, if they didn’t already have a very talented 2-deep of underclassman on the current roster then I would understand the cause for concern.
The staff has proven they can clearly recruit at the highest level. I’m quite certain that CM and CKD have a much better understanding of Bama’s NIL budget…that includes what they are paying the current roster, money to spend on bringing guys back for their final year of eligibility in the offseason (Z Brown), and also what they have budgeted for transfers. I’m quite confident they aren’t just sitting on millions of dollars bc they don’t feel like having Monshun Sales on the roster.
Again, what good is signing a 5-star LB in this 2027 Class, only to lose Xavier Griffin off the current roster bc you can’t afford to keep him after next season?
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 11:38 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 11:39 am to Diego Ricardo
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I understand the logic but if this season isn’t encouraging to the roster on campus then we may have attrition we weren’t betting on … and what then?
Then we spend the money that was earmarked for those players on the portal. Consider it this way: you have $1000 and 3 buckets to put it in. Those buckets are recruits, players currently on the roster, and portal transfers. It's a zero sum game, so if you have $500 allocated for the current roster and only need to use $300 of it because of unexpected attrition you can put the $200 left into the recruit and transfer buckets however you want. Probably mostly towards transfers if you're talking unexpected losses.
Ultimately it only starts to become a problem if the $1000 decreases due to booster apathy or your program is such a shite show that you can't find anyone willing to take your money. Otherwise you're just moving the money around from bucket to bucket depending on how your depth chart looks.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 11:43 am
Posted on 7/4/26 at 11:41 am to Robot Santa
Why this is such a difficult concept to grasp is quite perplexing.
Posted on 7/4/26 at 12:15 pm to Cover1Key
I don’t think it’s really difficult for most of us to understand.
It’s more so that it’s still frustrating to not have at least a slightly more exciting class. I’m all for signing a smaller class and retaining players. I guess I’d be fine with signing 10-15 players if I thought most of them would be starters one day. Right now we have a small class and most of them are depth guys i think. If we sign an amazing class next year that’s great but it’s also going to come with a lot of them needing to make an impact in year 2. I think people are also a bit uneasy because we missed out on smells needed portal pieces as well.
No one is saying the house is fully engulfed in flames. Just a small bit of unease and I really like our staff but they are not beyond reproach or criticism yet.
It is a brave new world and I’m willing to see how all this plays out(as if I have a choice). It’s still going to be a little painful to see two 5 star receivers, 1 who has two brothers on the team and another who grew up being called “Bama” go to other schools.
It’s more so that it’s still frustrating to not have at least a slightly more exciting class. I’m all for signing a smaller class and retaining players. I guess I’d be fine with signing 10-15 players if I thought most of them would be starters one day. Right now we have a small class and most of them are depth guys i think. If we sign an amazing class next year that’s great but it’s also going to come with a lot of them needing to make an impact in year 2. I think people are also a bit uneasy because we missed out on smells needed portal pieces as well.
No one is saying the house is fully engulfed in flames. Just a small bit of unease and I really like our staff but they are not beyond reproach or criticism yet.
It is a brave new world and I’m willing to see how all this plays out(as if I have a choice). It’s still going to be a little painful to see two 5 star receivers, 1 who has two brothers on the team and another who grew up being called “Bama” go to other schools.
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