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re: Can we talk about the last 2 WR classes?
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:30 am to tider04
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:30 am to tider04
We have plenty of talent at WR, clearly. They'll be just fine next season. Just because they didn't go out and dominate as true freshmen and sophomores in the playoffs doesn't mean they suck, or lack talent. Give them some time. Hell, half of this board bitched about Williams, and Metchie for a lot of the 2021 season. A lot of spoiled Bama fans right now.
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:36 am to Funky Tide 8
Yea not sure I understand the lamenting about the WR class. We had 2 elite WRs who took up all the space in the room. When 1 of them got hurt, our most ready freshman WR stepped up and played great.
If JaMo had gotten hurt before the playoffs I feel pretty confident the other freshmen WRs would have been more in sync and better than getting thrown into the fire like they were.
The timing of his injury was about as bad as it could be. Gameplan was based around him, practice reps were geared to him playing, etc.
If JaMo had gotten hurt before the playoffs I feel pretty confident the other freshmen WRs would have been more in sync and better than getting thrown into the fire like they were.
The timing of his injury was about as bad as it could be. Gameplan was based around him, practice reps were geared to him playing, etc.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 8:38 am
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:41 am to TD7
NO way....then why did Nick go outside the room to sign Williams
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:42 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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NO way....then why did Nick go outside the room to sign Williams
Because he saw a guy who had the tools to be a Top 10 pick and who the hell doesn't add that when you get the opportunity?
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
And he didn't care who in his receiver room didn't like it despite all that Talent in the room.
For the most part if a player isn't in the rotating by his sophomore year then chances are they're not going to be a real player at Bama.
For the most part if a player isn't in the rotating by his sophomore year then chances are they're not going to be a real player at Bama.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:50 am to RollTide33
Don’t think receiver is a big problem like some are making, these guys have a huge opportunity this spring and I see them taking advantage of it.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:57 am to BamaFan107
A much needed upgrade at TE and H-Back would help out the WR's as well as have one of our RB's being more elusive as a pass receiver would also help the WR.
Nick hasn't decided where to start the Henderson kid but as of today H-back is wide open. We just spent 15 games not having the starter block and there are only two routes to learn.
Nick hasn't decided where to start the Henderson kid but as of today H-back is wide open. We just spent 15 games not having the starter block and there are only two routes to learn.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:58 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
We had the best looking FB/HB since Fowler, but add him to the list of injuries this year. Outz
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 9:00 am
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:15 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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And he didn't care who in his receiver room didn't like it despite all that Talent in the room. For the most part if a player isn't in the rotating by his sophomore year then chances are they're not going to be a real player at Bama.
And didn’t they sign four or five WRs in this class?
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:20 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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And he didn't care who in his receiver room didn't like it despite all that Talent in the room.
Why would he "care?" When has Saban ever "cared" about that type of thing?
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:25 am to tider04
I think the biggest problem with our passing game this year was the inability to establish the run.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:43 am to PowHound
JMO but I don't believe you're going to get a passing threat out of Outz. He looks more like #85 as another blocker on short yardage situations.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 10:06 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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as well as have one of our RB's being more elusive as a pass receiver would also help the WR.
Bama had that in Jace, unfortunately injuries knocked him out too.
This Bama offense could have been lethal at full strength. Unfortunately, that only lasted 5 games.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 10:09 am to remaster916
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well as have one of our RB's being more elusive as a pass receiver would also help the WR.
Well we're gonna have that next year with Jase and Gibbs.
Gibbs is a fvckin weapon.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/12/22 at 11:27 am to BamaFan107
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Don’t think receiver is a big problem like some are making, these guys have a huge opportunity this spring and I see them taking advantage of it.
The problem is people looking back on the careers and draft status of Jeudy, Ruggs, Smitty, and Waddle and thinking they were all just dynamite as freshmen, and therefore the current crop sucks. It's revisionist history. Those guys weren't all world-beaters that people remembered them being as true freshmen, either.
Waddle is the only one with more than 15 catches. Waddle is the only one with more than 264 yards. Waddle and Ruggs were the only ones to score more than 3 TDs.
As true freshmen:
2017:
Jerry Jeudy: 14 receptions, 264 yards, 2 TDs
Devonta Smith: 8 catches, 160 yards, 3 TDs
Henry Ruggs: 12 catches, 229 yards, 6 TDs
2018:
Jaylen Waddle: 45 catches, 848 yards, 7 TDs
2019:
John Metchie: 4 catches, 23 yards, 0 TD
Jameson Williams: 6 catches, 112 yards, 1 TD (Ohio State)
2021:
Jacorey Brooks: 15 catches, 192 yards, 2 TDs
Jojo Earle: 12 catches, 148 yards, 0 TD
Agiye Hall: 3 catches, 62 yards, 0 TD
Christian Leary: 2 catches, 4 yards, 1 TD
Posted on 1/12/22 at 11:39 am to Chancellor
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Couple that with an inept OC who has no imagination or creativity
This isn't the problem. In fact, it's the opposite of the problem. When you have 1st and goal inside the 10 and you barely attempt to run the ball, your imagination and creativity is out of control. But that's a discussion for another thread.
There hasn't been WR in the last few classes who has flashed that he was a transcendent talent. When Waddle arrived, he was a freshman in one of the greatest WR groups in college history. Yet, he still grabbed attention amidst these superstar veterans. Not one of these youngsters outshines even Slade.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 11:53 am to SoFla Tideroller
It's a reason we took so many WRs in this incoming class. The two previous WR classes aren't panning out.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:08 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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This isn't the problem. In fact, it's the opposite of the problem. When you have 1st and goal inside the 10 and you barely attempt to run the ball, your imagination and creativity is out of control. But that's a discussion for another thread.
That's just a bunch of Gumpy rundadambawl nonsense. There are all sorts of ways to engineer easy throws for TDs in goal to go situations. BooB utilized none of them. Literally everything was a straight drop and full field read despite having a mobile QB, which is absolutely deadly inside the 10 if you put him on the move. No roll outs, no bootlegs, no throwbacks, nothing that gave Bryce an easy throw with the option to run it in if everything was covered.
Our best pass play inside the 10 was the protection breaking down and Bryce improvising. That says a lot.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:11 pm to Shaft Williams
What was there to pan out ? Metchie? Everybody is is freshman or sophomores
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:39 pm to Woodyjr42
Brooks, Hall and Holden paired with Slade could be a good group in 2022. I do think we need to hit the transfer portal for a speed demon...with the Heisman winning QB returning, you'd think we'd have our pick of the litter of elite WRs in the portal.
One thing though...CNS kept referencing the lack of experience our young WRs had when trying to replace Metchie and Williams. Who's fault is that? My biggest gripe with Saban has been the lack of quality PT for backups in games we're well ahead in. Take the starters out and let the backups actually run the offense. A backup WR watching repeated 4th quarter handoffs is developing no real experience.
One thing though...CNS kept referencing the lack of experience our young WRs had when trying to replace Metchie and Williams. Who's fault is that? My biggest gripe with Saban has been the lack of quality PT for backups in games we're well ahead in. Take the starters out and let the backups actually run the offense. A backup WR watching repeated 4th quarter handoffs is developing no real experience.
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