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Can we petition to replace the Duke kickoff game with UCF?

Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
Member since May 2008
3598 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:38 pm
I rarely start threads, but I think this would be a nice solution to a blah kickoff game in a few years.
Posted by 1ManWolfPack
Member since Sep 2013
621 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:20 pm to
I bet Lamar-less Loserville would appreciate it if UCF would buy out next year's opener.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37650 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:23 pm to
Anything would be better......can we convince Richt to move up the Miami game?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22723 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:55 pm to
Hell no.

I hate that we have Duke as our neutral site game, but UCF would be way worse. 2 years ago they went winless, this is not a long term stable program.

Plus, we owe Duke one. They canceled a game to make room for a us a few years ago. We had to travel to them, but they still helped us out.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12226 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 7:18 pm to
Saban was kinda pissed that Duke wouldn't move that game in 10 to a neutral site.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72207 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 7:19 pm to
They will be worse than Duke in two years time. Josh Heupel is not a good coach.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6507 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 10:26 pm to
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I hate that we have Duke as our neutral site game, but UCF would be way worse. 2 years ago they went winless, this is not a long term stable program.


Yep. I'm pretty sure that this Duke game was scheduled right after the year that they somehow ended up in the ACC championship game. The point is, that game looked a little better then, but by now they are a terrible program again. UCF would be the same way. If we scheduled them for 2020, it would hurt our SOS once we got there. These games are scheduled too far out. There's no way to know how good of a matchup it will be, and when we end up getting a good matchup, we steal their soul, causing their team to go off the rails. Look at FSU this year. That was called the biggest opening game in CFB history, but by the end of the season it was being used to show how weak our OOC schedule is. It's a lose-lose situation for us.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 10:29 pm to
We should only schedule blue blood programs
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14484 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:24 am to
You can petition anything. Go ahead.
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
Member since May 2008
3598 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:39 am to
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We should only schedule blue blood programs




Or remind the not blue bloods who the big dogs really are?

We owe UCF a beatdown more than we owe Duke another one.

Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:40 am to
Why acknowledge UFC? They ain’t shite. We should be scheduling a home and home with Urban... though I doubt he’d accept.

An easy home and home would be Nebraska. Call smart arse Frost.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11456 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:44 am to
Hell, can we petition to replace Duke with Troy? At least the money would stay in state.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37650 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:46 am to
quote:

We should only schedule blue blood programs




You assume they want to play us? Who wants to sign up for a big fat "L" to start the season off? Then you are outside looking in for the playoffs.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

replace the Duke kickoff game


Sure.

quote:

with UCF?


No.

quote:

Plus, we owe Duke one. They canceled a game to make room for a us a few years ago. We had to travel to them, but they still helped us out.


Not true. We don't owe Duke anything. The 2010 game at Duke was the second of a home-and-home contract; Duke came to Tuscaloosa in 2006. In fact, Duke turned down an opportunity to sell the game to a neutral site and make more money.

"The home team had an option to move the game to a larger, neutral site but chose instead to keep the game in the cozy on-campus stadium. That left a potentially more lucrative plan on the table because NFL stadiums in Atlanta and Charlotte could have accommodated much larger crowds in the return game of a home-and-home series. Alabama won the first meeting 30-14 in 2006.

“I think there’s always temptation when you’re talking about a great deal of money, but this thing is bigger than money,” Cutcliffe said. “I was amazed that (athletics director) Dr. (Kevin) White and (president) Dr. (Richard) Broadhead both just never flinched. They want what’s best for our program, and the best thing for our program is to play the big games at our stadium. A lot of things have changed here.”

Back in the 1990s, Duke traded the rights to host ACC opponent Florida State to Jacksonville and Orlando for cash effectively selling home games back to the already-superior home team."

LINK
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Hell, can we petition to replace Duke with Troy? At least the money would stay in state.



Better to get money from out of state tourists. If Troy wants a payday for a game, their revenue is the same whether it comes from Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa. Tuscaloosa and Birmingham businesses will make more on a team with fans who will actually stay in hotels and spend more time.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 11:06 am
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20770 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Not true. We don't owe Duke anything. The 2010 game at Duke was the second of a home-and-home contract; Duke came to Tuscaloosa in 2006. In fact, Duke turned down an opportunity to sell the game to a neutral site and make more money.

"The home team had an option to move the game to a larger, neutral site but chose instead to keep the game in the cozy on-campus stadium. That left a potentially more lucrative plan on the table because NFL stadiums in Atlanta and Charlotte could have accommodated much larger crowds in the return game of a home-and-home series. Alabama won the first meeting 30-14 in 2006.

“I think there’s always temptation when you’re talking about a great deal of money, but this thing is bigger than money,” Cutcliffe said. “I was amazed that (athletics director) Dr. (Kevin) White and (president) Dr. (Richard) Broadhead both just never flinched. They want what’s best for our program, and the best thing for our program is to play the big games at our stadium. A lot of things have changed here.”

Back in the 1990s, Duke traded the rights to host ACC opponent Florida State to Jacksonville and Orlando for cash effectively selling home games back to the already-superior home team."


As I understood it, we went into that deal with a handshake agreement that Duke would not schedule that at home and our admin was pretty pissed that Duke backed out. It was even rumored that we would play the return game at Legion Field.

Still can't believe we scheduled them again. Should've at least made a deal where their basketball team to comes to Coleman.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37650 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:12 pm to
Been bitching about that . Why can’t we get a basketball game? We have traveled to Duke before. We should have got a game.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:24 pm to
Looking over Duke's non conference schedule for the last 10 seasons (2007-08), it looks like all of their non conference road games fall into 4 categories:
1.) Tournaments (Champions Classic, Battle 4 Atlantis, Maui Invitational, etc.)
2.)Neutral Sites in major arenas (Izod Center, Madison Square Gardens, Wells Fargo Arena, etc.)
3.) Neutral Site game against small schools in other arenas in their area (Like our games the past two seasons in Huntsville)
4.) Road games at Big 10 schools as part of the ACC/Big 10 Challenge

There is only exception in the last 10 years: They played at Michigan on December 6th 2008 (they played at Purdue 4 days earlier for the ACC/Big 10 challenge)

Good luck ever getting Coach K to ever bring his team to Tuscaloosa.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I hate that we have Duke as our neutral site game, but UCF would be way worse. 2 years ago they went winless, this is not a long term stable program.


Duke hasn't had a really good season in over 70 years. UCF has better fan support and is a better program with an actual upward trajectory. Duke will be back to winless seasons as soon as Cutcliffe is gone.

Plus this will be the third time we've played Duke in just over a decade. There's no reason for that, no history between the teams. That 2019 schedule is just embarrassing.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure that this Duke game was scheduled right after the year that they somehow ended up in the ACC championship game. The point is, that game looked a little better then, but by now they are a terrible program again


That 2013 Duke team was just okay. If they scheduled this game thinking they were becoming a good program because they had one decent season, that's just terrible
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