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re: Boz please help us Bams understand what is going on in Ttown
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:02 pm to Teague
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:02 pm to Teague
So Teague thinks all that perfect storm happened, but Tua didn't do anything wrong.
Listen, it's ok to point out errors. We all love Tua, but he isn't above needing correction.... just like coaches. Speaking of that - Saban should have never allowed that fake FG. That was stupid and he should have overruled it.
I know its over and done now, but you have to look back to correct mistakes going forward. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT>
Listen, it's ok to point out errors. We all love Tua, but he isn't above needing correction.... just like coaches. Speaking of that - Saban should have never allowed that fake FG. That was stupid and he should have overruled it.
I know its over and done now, but you have to look back to correct mistakes going forward. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT>
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:07 pm to bogeypro
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bogeypro
So you and others can express your opinion, but Teague expresses a differing opinion and you call him out?
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:11 pm to Teague
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wasn't the issue.
There has been way too much argument about what THE issue was, as if there was only 1. There wasn't. There were several. And it's asinine to try and boil Bama's loss down to one singular culpability.
The list of issues includes, but isn't limited to (in no particular order):
Poor goal-line play-calling
Poor goal-line execution
Insufficient coaching adjustments as the game progressed
Missed tackles
Injuries on defense, most notably at OLB and Corner
2 interceptions
prolapseed anus-style kicking
ball/calls not bouncing/going Bama's way
Inability to get pressure with front 4
Missed assignments by Oline/RBs in pass protection
Mental mistakes in pass coverage
Almost no defensive depth across the board
...and probably a few more if I continued to think.
Simply put, nearly everyone shoulders a little bit of responsibility in the loss, and pertinent to this stupid debate about Tua, he's not immune. However, every single person who gets "blame" in the loss gets mountains of credit in the first 14 wins.
Many here need to stop painting players/coaches with such broad strokes, and many here need to quit trying to boil the loss down to one thing. In my opinion, the offense underperformed much, MUCH more than the defense (as evidence by net point production and production yielded - 9 and 37 for the offense and defense, respectively), but the loss lays at the feet of many.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:16 pm to bamabonners
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Tua just takes too many risky throws. He needs to chill out and read coverage more and stop trying to play video game or highlight reel football.
Which is exactly what people were talking about last year - and he certainly made major improvements over the course of last year / the offseason.
I think he probably reverted to his "crutch" of going for those kinds of throws in the big games, when Bama got down or when he got uncomfortable. Just needs to slow it down a bit and play within himself / the system.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:19 pm to prevatt33
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prevatt33
My man, very well said
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:28 pm to prevatt33
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Poor goal-line play-calling
Poor goal-line execution
Insufficient coaching adjustments as the game progressed
Missed tackles
Injuries on defense, most notably at OLB and Corner
2 interceptions
prolasped anus-style kicking
ball/calls not bouncing/going Bama's way
Inability to get pressure with front 4
Missed assignments by Oline/RBs in pass protection
Mental mistakes in pass coverage
Almost no defensive depth across the board
...and probably a few more if I continued to think.
You might add 5 red zone trips and zero points but I assume that is encompassed by the poor goal-line play-calling
This was just a bad game all around. Everyone gets the blame.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 3:48 pm to John Milner
LMAO
Tua made a pre-snap decision not a snap decision. I did not call nor imply Tua was a fool or that he had the right to make such a decision. Saban owns the car and the keys. Tua drives the car at Saban's pleasure provided he follows Saban's direction.
A snap decision would be to assume a video supports your view based on watching one play then stating you are not watching any more because it is over.
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So Tua is a fool for throwing to where the intended target should have been?
Tua made a pre-snap decision not a snap decision. I did not call nor imply Tua was a fool or that he had the right to make such a decision. Saban owns the car and the keys. Tua drives the car at Saban's pleasure provided he follows Saban's direction.
A snap decision would be to assume a video supports your view based on watching one play then stating you are not watching any more because it is over.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:00 pm to Tw1st3d
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A snap decision would be to assume a video supports your view based on watching one play then stating you are not watching any more because it is over.
I didn't watch the video because I saw the game, we lost, and it's over, but if you're pissed off that easily, it's your problem, not mine.
by the way, that "pre snap decision" might very well have been the coach's decision. That first series might have been scripted. Their defensive coaches studied our tendencies, and our tendencies are precipitated on the plays the coaches have the players to run. Compound that with the fact that, at least according to Wyatt, the outside receiver probably didn't correctly run his route, and you get the interception. Just because Wyatt's opinion doesn't agree with what you and Ystar already decided...oh well.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:10 pm to John Milner
I love Tua but towards the end of the year when he was refusing the check down, Saban or Locks should have set him down on the bench for at least one series just to send a message that constant highlight hunting won’t win and won’t play.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:15 pm to phil4bama
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Saban or Locks should have set him down on the bench for at least one series just to send a message that constant highlight hunting won’t win and won’t play.
I have said that same thing. I imagine he'll be in the Heisman race again next season but I bet he learns a lot from this year.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:24 pm to Teague
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We have the best QB we've maybe EVER had at Bama, and people are debating whether or not he read a few coverages after the snap. I'll put this as simply as possible - our Heisman finalist QB, wasn't the issue.
At least one voice of reason! In fact it was Tua and the amazingly talented wideouts that kept this from being a 3 or 4 loss rebuilding year. We gave up 31 to Arkansas!
We are the most spoiled, entitled, arrogant, and unrealistic fanbase in all of sports bar none. Saban half joked last year saying if I ever lose 3 games they will want to run my arse out of here. After seeing the reactions to this loss it's sad that he was actually stating a fact.
If you frickers can't accept it just wasn't Bama's night and can't be happy with and trust in Nick Saban & Tua Tagovailoa as your QB, then there is no hope for you at all.
Truly a sick, demented, and twisted sense of reality. Other coaches can coach and other players can play and sometimes even beat all mighty Alabama. It happens. Get the frick over it and quit trying to pick apart a dominating 14-1 season.
Clemson is a great program and it was their night. Simple as that.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:37 pm to Tuas Knee
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Clemson is a great program and it was their night.
Yep.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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quote: Tua just takes too many risky throws. He needs to chill out and read coverage more and stop trying to play video game or highlight reel football. Which is exactly what people were talking about last year -
You don’t say ;)
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:31 am to CrimsonBoz
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You don’t say ;)
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:37 am to CrimsonBoz
Haha - shocking I know
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:41 am to Sneaky__Sally
as my LA friend would say, "CCccccanttt Weeee jjjjust all gggget alongggggggggggg."
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:03 am to mrbroker
as far as getting along....that's a big Hell No... this is a fan site (FANATIC) and we all have our insights and opiniions (which we all are 100% sure are the best and truest)... so any disagreement would be considered a slap in the face... and mean immediate screaming and nashin gof the teeth... name calling and on and on and on....
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:43 am to John Milner
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Compound that with the fact that, at least according to Wyatt, the outside receiver probably didn't correctly run his route, and you get the interception. Just because Wyatt's opinion doesn't agree with what you and Ystar already decided...oh well.
You are literally clueless.
1. On the first INT, that outside reciever Devonta isn't running a route. He's running a pick to get Juedy open on the flat route. They blitzed, brought the safety down in man coverage. They didn't shift coverage after the snap there.
2. Wyatt and everyone with a brain has come out recently and agreed with me; clearly stating Clemson were changing their coverage after snap to confuse and bait Tua. Why that works so well on him is because he is overly dependent on his pre-snap reads and doesn't make the read after the snap.
3. That first INT had nothing to do with Tua not making a second read. It was a quick route, pick play. Tua just threw a horrible ball. People just don't want to admit that.. even though after he threw that INT Tua himself admitted he was at fault.
4. Mullens actually gave us what we wanted when he jumped inside. Tua just threw a very bad ball behind Jeudy running the out route. Even if Mullens didn't cheat inside Jeudy couldn't even catch it because the ball was so far behind him. You never throw back shoulder to a WR running a flat or out. You lead them so it's either they catch it or it's incomplete and out of bounds.
5. If you don't know what you're talking about, why enter the discussion?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:02 am to YStar
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On the first INT, that outside reciever Devonta isn't running a route. He's running a pick to get Juedy open on the flat route.
Wyatt didn't agree with you at all. He thinks Smith was supposed to slant in as the primary receiver. In the John Doe video, he said he thinks Smith whiffed on the block. In any event, neither thinks it was Tua missing the read after the snap, as you have said. Now you're trying to spin shite to make you look less clueless. Tell us again about your illustrious playing career. Give us a link to all your accolades so we can appreciate your awesomeness.
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