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re: Boz please help us Bams understand what is going on in Ttown

Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:13 am to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15174 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:13 am to
You are beyond help.

1. Wyatt agrees with the entire my entire point, Tua relied on his first read on that second interception and didn't read again after the snap. I then gave example of when Tua has repeatedly relied on this. MSU initially exposed this trend.


2. There was no read on that play and no matter how many times you attempt to say that. It was a quick route to the flat with Devonta running a pick.

3. Wyatt didn't even fully understand that first INT and clearly said so when breaking it down. He clearly says he doesn't fully understand what was going on. He thought Devonta ran a poor route and Tua was throwing a slant, when in reality Devonta was running a pick for Tua to throw the flat to Jeudy.

I'm wasting my time. You're one of those guys who obviously gets drunk during games and knows nothing but "run da bawl".
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:16 am to
People (Ystar) try to say Tua got fooled on this play

ha. And now you're telling us Wyatt didn't understand the play, but Ystar does. Hell man, you should be coaching at Alabama next year. If you know more than Wyatt and John Doe, Alabama needs you!
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:19 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15174 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:26 am to
This is how dumb you are.

1. We were talking about the second interception. That's where they changed coverages and fooled Tua. Your boy Wyatt co-signed agreeing with me.

2. The entire initial discussion was about the SECOND interception. Someone else brought up the first interception.




Two different things led to these interceptions and I clearly explained both. Obviously you know less about football then a toddler (and apparently even less about numbers considering you don't know the difference between ONE and TWO).
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:28 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:35 am to
yeah. We weren't talking about the first interception. That's why you said that Wyatt didn't understand it, but you do.

The 2nd interception wasn't a failure to read the play. Hell, it was clear there were 3 defenders. It was overconfidence in himself to make the perfect throw and for the receiver to make an awesome play.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15174 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:37 am to
Dude enough of your foolishness.

Show me where I said what you accused me of saying about the FIRST interception??

If not STFU.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15174 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:39 am to
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The 2nd interception wasn't a failure to read the play. Hell, it was clear there were 3 defenders. It was overconfidence in himself to make the perfect throw and for the receiver to make an awesome play.


Shows literally how little you know.

1. Clemson showed man cover 2 before the snap then rotated ti a deep zone after the snap.

2. Tua always depending on his pre-snap reads didn't bother to read after the snap and see the CB dropping back deep to cover over, or the safety not rotating too far outward.

3. It had nothing to do with making the perfect throw. It had everything to do with overconfidence in his pre-snap read and not following his due process and making his second read after the snap.


Again, just shut up. You literally know nothing.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:41 am
Posted by BamaReb
N Carolina
Member since Nov 2017
291 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:59 am to
Dude -- that is just stupid. As much as you have been singing Tua's praises (and rightly so) give Tua some credit; he isn't knowingly going to throw into triple coverage. The 2nd interception is clearly Tua getting baited by a post-snap change in coverage.

The pissing match between you and YStar had some entertainment value for a while, but now you're just destroying the posting credibility you have.

You people jumping on YStar clearly didn't understand what he was saying. He isn't criticizing Tua's ability to check down. He is basically saying the same thing Venables said/did. Tua's pre-snap read is what he goes with the majority of the time. He will have to change this because every defense we see next year will show him one coverage and change post-snap to cover the weakness initially shown (if their defense and DC are smart enough to implement). If Tua can grow to make post-snap reads and the appropriate change, he will absolutely be the Heisman winner and 1st pick off the board in the draft. If he doesn't meet this challenge, his pick numbers are going up. Tua is exceptionally talented...accuracy off the charts...this should make taking what is given/open easy.

And before some of you start berating me for being critical of Tua, just stop...I'm not. He was awesome for a 1st year starter. He (like virtually every football player or any other profession for that matter) has room to improve and make himself better. Kirby and Venables will be coming for him again next year. I hope Tua improves, because I don't want to lose the rubber match to these assholes.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:56 am to
quote:

You people jumping on YStar clearly didn't understand what he was saying. He isn't criticizing Tua's ability to check down. He is basically saying the same thing Venables said/did. Tua's pre-snap read is what he goes with the majority of the time. He will have to change this because every defense we see next year will show him one coverage and change post-snap to cover the weakness initially shown (if their defense and DC are smart enough to implement). If Tua can grow to make post-snap reads and the appropriate change, he will absolutely be the Heisman winner and 1st pick off the board in the draft. If he doesn't meet this challenge, his pick numbers are going up. Tua is exceptionally talented...accuracy off the charts...this should make taking what is given/open easy.


Not to mention, if he can't rectify that (I have every confidence he will), he will not be successful in the NFL.
Posted by Tuas Knee
Member since Oct 2018
157 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:59 pm to
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Not to mention, if he can't rectify that (I have every confidence he will), he will not be successful in the NFL.


fricking horseshite!!! If he were eligible he'd go #1 in the draft right now.


Peyton once threw 4 picks in a half. Brady, Breeze, Montana, Rogers have all been baited into bad picks in big games. Just like Tua they keep firing and their great plays far outweigh the bad. You assholes take a few negative plays and try to say it means he won't have success in the NFL. Tua needs to keep on being Tua and firing that fricking pigskin down the field with confidence. If he makes a pick or two our defense needs to step up and make a play.


I swear I can't defend our fans. We are the fricking worst. Turning on Tua who is hands down the best QB we have ever had. It's an impossible fricking standard some of you want to hold our coaches and players to. No mistakes EVER! Good thing you all aren't held to the same standard at work or you would be broke and homeless.


I stayed away from any talk shows or messages boards for a solid week, hoping after a few days a sense of reality and perspective would have taken hold and people would be appreciating another great season that came up just short. Obviously that was wishful thinking and we are the same sorriest bunch of losers on the planet we've always been pointing fingers. It's one loss and it will all be okay. fricking 14-1 with an average at best defense PEOPLE!

Why even bother with Bama football if it causes some of you miserable assholes so much angst? Just fricking enjoy the good times, let the rare losses roll off your back, and say we'll get em next year like a normal fricking person.

It's a damn Sickness.

I think that defense of Tua may have just turned into a rant
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
1910 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:18 pm to
well this whole thread has just gone to shite lol
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

well this whole thread has just gone to shite lol

It's the same shite as always, people itching to tell others that they know best, we saw this with the stupidity that was the QB arguments.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:40 pm to
About a half a page of good information..


9.5 pages of bitching and arguing.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

9.5 pages of bitching and arguing.


Yeah, you gotta get fast at recognizing bitching/beating-a-dead-horse posts and simply move down the page. I frequently get only half a sentence into some folks' posts before I nope the frick down.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted by BrocraticMethod
a dumpster
Member since Sep 2011
2326 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 3:24 pm to
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I'm scared he won't.




Why? You're going to write off a guy who has absolutely dominated some pretty elite opposition after he has a few bad games? For frick's sake, kneejerk much?
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5555 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:38 pm to
In case you people are struggling with what’s going on, let me summarize it for you.

Saban is going scorched earth.

It’s that simple.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:40 pm to
Looks like he’s burning it to the ground and building it back with his hand picked guys.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Saban is going scorched earth.



Perhaps with more balance of successful coaching experience and recruiting prowess.

Clemson recruiting ranking last 5 classes, according to 247.

2019 - 6 (early signing period)
2018 - 7
2017 - 16
2016 - 11
2015 - 9

247
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:18 pm to
I am beginning to worry that even Miss Terry's position isn't safe.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:20 am to
quote:

I am beginning to worry that even Miss Terry's position isn't safe.


She's gone mess around and be the TEs coach at NC State next year.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16503 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 6:54 am to
she has a pre nup and owns his balls at this point in their marriage.
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