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Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:38 pm to remaster916
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The 2018 recruiting class is now an absolute disaster.
I mean it netted us Surtain, Waddle, Kaho with some other guys that will probably continue next year......but yeah it will definitely end up being a weak link.
This year's class was a must hit and we did.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:39 pm to AjA77
I disagree that Anoma did not develop because he did not play enough. Saban has proven time and time again that he could not give a flying turd what class you're in, the best guys play. When Anoma was in the game he did not do much. So that tells me that he was simply not ready to take the bigger roll that we all knew he HAD to be ready for after Lewis went down. His failure to develop was a key to our losing the championship. I'm not saying it's his fault, any time you have to have a freshman play like an All-American to win that's a depth problem from previous years recruiting.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:43 pm to slammer66
Amazing how the expectations for freshmen (and for themselves) have changed in such a short time.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:48 pm to slammer66
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Saban has proven time and time again that he could not give a flying turd what class you're in, the best guys play.
Disagree with you there.
Tua and Thompson in 2017 say hi.
Jacobs this year. He played, but Saban kept playing D Harris over Jacobs wayyyyyy too much.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:48 pm to remaster916
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Anoma had the potential to be a number 1 overall draft pick.
If you say so. I just saw a fast guy who had no fricking clue what he was doing and probably ended up picking up the most personal fouls on the team despite being a mop up duty guy because again, he had no fricking clue what he was doing. Projecting someone like that to #1 overall is a big stretch.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:50 pm to remaster916
Dude he cant remember plays lol
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:52 pm to FWBFLlaw
Unbelievable
There has to be more to this story
Wth is going on in Title town?
There has to be more to this story
Wth is going on in Title town?
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:59 pm to JuiceTerry
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Unbelievable
There has to be more to this story
Wth is going on in Title town?
This shite happened behind the scenes every year everywhere, including in Tuscaloosa, the difference is now instead of Anoma talking through back channels to UM, he can put his name in the portal and talk to them on the up and up.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The only reason it really matters is that time was spent recruiting and developing him that could have been spent elsewhere, but there was a lot of that with coaches last year too. I hope the kid sticks. It sounds as though he needs support to help focus. I'm not sure he'll find as much of that anywhere else, than he will at Bama. It is supposedly a complex defensive system to learn and with the comparatively little amount of football he has played, that might be a little overwhelming for him given the expectations associated with his rating.
Good luck to him wherever he plays. Wish he would have waited until Thursday to enter the portal. With some of our "commitments" we probably don't need the top signee from last year raising red flags.
Good luck to him wherever he plays. Wish he would have waited until Thursday to enter the portal. With some of our "commitments" we probably don't need the top signee from last year raising red flags.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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This year's class was a must hit and we did.
This can't be known until 2 or 3 years pass.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:13 pm to prevatt33
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This can't be known until 2 or 3 years pass.
Sure, but in the eyes of the coaches we signed the guys they (from everything we know based on who we were chasing) had at the top of their board.
They could end up wrong and this class could suck, but based on the information we have available this class went very well in terms of guys they wanted and guys they got. And in a year where we needed it based on last year.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:14 pm to AjA77
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I get the kid was drama but to honest there was no excuse for him not getting situational substitution time based on Buggs ,
not being 100% in the title game or OU game.
Also when you factor in lewis injury as well.
This all goes back to our defensive ideology of not playing depth and leaning on seniorty .
This goes right back to what the clemson center said based on film our D-line players trying to tapp out a few plays not to be gased.
I realize the kid was a bigtime kid getting frustrated and maybe not all in on the process.
But any kid would understand not playing if a lewis is playing lights out in front of him.
But again based on our injuries he and others could have played a few more snaps.
Considering this defense playing OU was asked to play a large number of plays and that combined with how long ,
we tend to play defensive starters late into games we lead by large margin.
I get saban is goat but this is other teams now seeing our tendencies as it relates
to the Clemson center comments.
It's not like the kid could not have been playing more snaps on say 3rd downs with 15 yards to go to be a speed rusher off the edge.
Talent wise combined with depth issues makes a case he should have been getting more burn!
As for the head case there no way we were not aware of this from day one.
That is really the exception and not as much the norm in recent years. I think a lot of it had to do with already being very young on D and getting those young starters all the experience they could (particularly in the secondary)
I don't disagree with the sentiment that I wish we had gotten more of the second string players experience this year. That said, I think Saban's philosophy plays a role for better or worse - in that if you don't grasp the playbook and don't do everything required the other six days, you don't play on Saturday. There are certainly drawbacks to that philosophy, but it probably plays a big role in players buying in to the whole system.
There is certainly a happy medium which we have seen more often than not over the past 4 years - i'm sure we will find that zone again.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:20 pm to BamaReb
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Wish he would have waited until Thursday to enter the portal. With some of our "commitments" we probably don't need the top signee from last year raising red flags.
1) It's possible and even potentially likely that Anoma was encouraged by Saban to skedaddle. It's possible for any player to be a distraction if he's unhappy or unwilling to assimilate and his removal from the team be addition by subtraction - and it doesn't matter what the player's potential physical tools are. Anoma could be a fricking 9-star and still be a negative. I'm not saying this is definitely the case; I'm saying that there are a thousand possibilities with regard to what's going on.
2) If we are recruiting any bigtime pass rushers, whether DEs or Jacks, I'd bet they are MUCH more likely to sign with Bama if we have a need at the position and the biggest hurdle to their playing time (from their perspective) just entered the transfer portal. I think it's possible or even likely that Saban controlled when his name would enter and used it to Bama's advantage.
Again, I'm not saying this is definitely true. I'm saying that there are many moving pieces at play and what seems like a bad chess move to amateurs is a brilliant move to the master, and there's no reason for so many fans constantly being up in arms over every little thing, especially when those things could very well be positive and part of the plan.
3) I'd also bet that Saban is getting his bud-nippers out and making sure everyone involved knows that it's his way, or the highway - and that it's clear to potential recruits as well. The most common way for Bama to "miss" on a recruit is for said recruit to commit to and sign with Bama because we're Bama, and not fully understand what it's going to take to succeed here. We need all recruits to be fully aware going in, and I'd rather take a 4-star who wants to work than a 5-star who doesn't.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:20 pm to prevatt33
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This can't be known until 2 or 3 years pass.
Ehh, this year's class is mostly going to be Plan A guys. Last year's class had a lot of Plan C type guys in it. Yeah you have to let it shake out and see how they develop, but more often than not our Plan A guys pan out and this class has like 15-20 of them.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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at the top of their board.
I agree. At this point in time, we should all be happy with the class.
But that's like being happy about the batter when the cake is what matters. Let's see how it all plays out.
But I've said it a thousand times: of all the things I'm going to worry about as a Bama fan under Saban, the absolute last thing on the list is recruiting.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:31 pm to FWBFLlaw
Damn that sucks. His ceiling is sky high.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:34 pm to FWBFLlaw
Surprising. Maybe he reconsiders and sticks around. But if he needs to leave then best of luck to him. I do think he could have a good football future at Bama still though.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:26 pm to elposter
Oh Lawd, if Anoma's in the portal and Bogle signs with us; and then Anoma ends up staying...let's just say the Swamptards have spun conspiracy webs regarding Nick and recruiting out of thinner material than this. I can already hear the caterwauling from the Bayou.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:28 pm to Tide or Die87
He was quoted as saying that he couldn't remember plays on the field after being able to perfectly understand and absorb them while being taught the first time. He said he was frustrated because of it and didn't know what to do. TIFWIW.
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