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re: Alabama not allowing Brandon Kennedy to transfer to Auburn or Tennessee

Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:31 pm to
Coach,

I would be forgoing my home training if I didn't thank you for the kind words and advice. I will definitely take your guidance to heart.

Josey,

I still think there is a 3rd option for the future which is to improve the current rule or implement a better one.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 6:42 pm to
I've never been, but I play softball with a guy from Belize.

Putting it delicately, Belize has a problem with security and a high crime rate. I personally wouldn't spend any time there, but to each his own.

If I was an American considering a move to Latin American, Costa Rica, Chile, and Argentina would be high on the list. Some others are coming along, Colombia and Peru to name 2. Panama isn't bad, but it's really connected to the US and heavily influenced culturally by them as well, and I wanted a different experience so I never seriously considered Panama.

Personally, I'd never live in any Latin American country North of Costa Rica. Too much crime. Having said that, folks are making a killing in the real estate market in Nicaragua right now. A lot of big money is going into Nicaragua, similar to Costa Rica 25 years ago.

I can't comment on the Caribbean much, but I have very little positive to say about it with regards to living there.

Last thing, regarding cigars and Cuba: Cuban cigars have been prized in the US simply because they were illegal. They are not better than cigars from other countries in Latin America. If that's what you want, fine. But you can have just as good or better of a cigar from a number of other countries. Do a little research.

Many folks here with Walk-in Humidor Stores carry Cubans solely to sell to Gringos, cause that's what they ask for. No one else is clamoring for them at all. If you strike up a conversation with the owners about the best stuff they sell, they get pretty far down the list before they mention anything from Cuba. It's funny. Just FYI.
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 6:43 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/26/18 at 7:45 pm to
Good luck,son.
Posted by AlaCrimsonTide06
Alabama
Member since May 2016
87 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:36 pm to
If he decided to not play football, would this be an issue? On one hand I believe a student should be able to enroll where they want but on the other I get it...you don't want them telling your rival everything they know about the inter workings of your school's team.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Cuban cigars have been prized in the US simply because they were illegal. They are not better than cigars from other countries in Latin America.


Cubans make some great cigars... And so do many other Latin American countries

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:11 am to
Also skimming this thread, wtf is going on?

I see people talking about companies and contracts and non competes

If I didn't know better this thread would be about coaches, since players are students and not employees by definition. Legit, the entire foundation of not paying players is based on them not being employees
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

Cubans make some great cigars... And so do many other Latin American countries



So you agree with my point. Excellent.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22665 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:12 pm to
quote:


If I didn't know better this thread would be about coaches, since players are students and not employees by definition. Legit, the entire foundation of not paying players is based on them not being employees


It's still a contract and exchange of services even if they aren't being paid in taxable dollars.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry y'all and you can downvote me to hell and back. I know this kid and he's a great kid. He's a great young man, he's just not good enough to get major playing time in Tuscaloosa. He's done everything asked of him and even graduated early, very early.

To punish him like this is petty and quite frankly, beneath that we should stand for at he University of Alabama. We should want the young men that have given everything they have to the University to be able to achieve the very highest levels of success no matter where it is.

I love Brandon, but Auburn or Tennessee isn't going to beat us because he's playing center for them.

This is just petty.


I'm sure he is a good kid but the only one being petty is him. He has a ton of schools he can go to. He's being petty because he wants to play against his old team plain and simple. Go play for fsu, gtech or Texas. Hell I bet if he wouldn't have made coach Saban look like a bad guy he would've let him transfer to any east team not on our schedule besides Uga
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 6:12 pm
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:14 pm to
Let me ask all of you against the rule a question. Would you be ok with Damien Harris transfering to auburn? How about Hurts next year? It's not about the secrets as much as some are making it. It's about a competitive advantage. Why would we every want Ucheat or The Barn to get better?
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Just for the hell of it, I'd like to know the political preference of the folks who thought a player should be able to transfer at will after graduation, and those who thought not.
I'm pretty sure I already know.

I vote republican but I lean more libertarian than the other two. I'm a big fan of most of what POTUS Trump has done so far.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Let me ask all of you against the rule a question. Would you be ok with Damien Harris transfering to auburn? How about Hurts next year? It's not about the secrets as much as some are making it. It's about a competitive advantage. Why would we every want Ucheat or The Barn to get better?

Exactly. There are a lot of people favoring the proposed NCAA Bylaws changes that will eliminate all transfer and contact restrictions for student athletes who have obtained their bachelors degree, except for the student athlete being required to notify their school of transfer related contact with another school. If approved, that will essentially make it completely legal for all schools to freely, actively and aggressively recruit other schools' players who have their degree.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 6:47 pm
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Exactly. There are a lot of people favoring the proposed NCAA Bylaws changes that will eliminate all transfer and contact restrictions for student athletes who have obtained their bachelors degree, except for the student athlete being required to notify their school of transfer related contact with another school. If approved, that will essentially make it completely legal for all schools to freely, actively and aggressively recruit other schools' players who have their degree.


Complete bs.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69905 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

TidalSurge1



I visited Volnation for the first time in years to see if there's any recruiting news, clicked on the Kennedy thread, only to find you engaged in a heated debate with multiple posters.

Why? Why in God's name would you try to have a reasonable discussion with those morons?

I've been permabanned from there since 2009 because I have a zero tolerance policy for blind homerism and bullshite. That, and I posted a picture of HatVol with a photoshopped black dick in his mouth after calling Sabanocchio a creepy bitch and telling Freak to eat my entire arse. frick that place.

Props for keeping your cool.

Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:45 pm to


90% of them wish other teams' fans weren't allowed there, especially us toothless inbred Bammers. Some got pretty heated up about it.

I didn't, but I'm an idiot for wasting time trying to get through their thick skulls that they better be careful what they wish for.

90% of them are too blinded by homerism and so supported in it by one another they can't even recognize honest objective truth or accept that their entire army is losing a debate pretty badly to a lone outsider.

Freak has never needed to call me out in public or private for anything. Whenever I post they come at me in a swarm. They've tried for years and still can't rustle me and it infuriates the hell out of them.

I have empathy for Vols fans. The ongoing political and administrative turmoil on the Hill is mainly to blame for running UT's FB program so far off course and making it hard to attract anyone capable of and willing to try to right the ship in that whacked environment. UT is damn lucky the fans haven't thrown in the towel and quit. Maybe Fulmer and Pruitt can get it done this time around.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69905 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:04 am to
Pruitt feels different Dooley and Lyle.


Dooley was obviously a panic hire, and I was willing to give him time given the circumstances, and he was entertaining. But he lost me in year 2 because it was obvious that he was capable of competing with the big boys, and his ingame decisions were abysmal. Then he, with an absolutely loaded roster (7 offensive linemen drafted, Patterson, Hunter, Rogers, Bray, etc) decides to hire Sunseri and install a 3-4 scheme with 4-3 personnel. And then didn't sign a single offensive linemen in his final class, and only 1 in his previous class.

I hated Lyle's personality from the get go, and I thought it was a lazy hire by Dave Hart. But I was willing to overlook it if he won games. He lost me in year 2, but I couldn't justify firing him after winning a bowl game for the first time in 4 years. In year 3, I was done, after blowing 2 score leads to Oklahoma and Florida, I was 100% out. Josh Dobbs saved his arse for 3 years. Without Dobbs, I think he's fired by year 3. The guy was so full of shite, couldn't answer a football question without some confusing diatribe about energy vampires or 6-3 effort or life championships. I hated him even after we beat Florida and Georgia because he was such a cliche machine and it was obvious that Dobbs was bailing him out.

He didn't coach football, he wrote catch phrases, and he scammed the morons at Tennessee out of millions of dollars. I irl hate him with a fiery fricking passion, and I've never even met him.


Pruitt just seems like the coach we've needed, so far. He lives, eats, sleeps, breathes and shits football. He brought in a badass staff, and btw, Neidemeyer is a fricking cheat code, thank you for him too and he just "gets it" with regard to SEC football. He understands the passion for the game the fans have because he has it too. Redneck Kiffin, but without slimyness. And having Fulmer backing him up in the AD is gonna really help him. Fulmer knows what a coach needs to be successful.

I'm trying really hard not to fall in love with Pruitt before he coaches a game, because I've had my heart broken so many times over, but he's winning me over.


Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:07 am to
Pruitt not only has great FB acumen, he's an outstanding coach and recruiter. And no bullshite. He tells it like it is. He learned well from Saban. It'll take a few seasons to recruit and develop the roster and fully implement the culture, but I think he'll do all that well. Fulmer being the AD with Pruitt as HC should be a good combo. It insulates Pruitt from having to deal with admin bs and gives him all of the support he needs. It would be a MUCH bigger challenge for Pruitt without Fulmer as AD.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11683 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Let me ask all of you against the rule a question. Would you be ok with Damien Harris transfering to auburn? How about Hurts next year? It's not about the secrets as much as some are making it. It's about a competitive advantage. Why would we every want Ucheat or The Barn to get better?


From the perspective of being a Bama fan no, I would not like it. However just because something happens that I dislike does not mean I feel there should be a rule/law against it. If that were the case you would be turning your Crocs over to the local authorities. I agree however that this is about a competitive advantage.

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I'm sure he is a good kid but the only one being petty is him. He has a ton of schools he can go to. He's being petty because he wants to play against his old team plain and simple. Go play for fsu, gtech or Texas. Hell I bet if he wouldn't have made coach Saban look like a bad guy he would've let him transfer to any east team not on our schedule besides Uga


Neither side is being petty here, at least not based on the information we have. This is where we let simple philosophical disagreements become intractable grudges. Bama wants to protect the program which makes sense. I am guessing but the kid is from Wetumpka so he likely wants to play close to home which also makes sense. There are a number of reasonable explanations why he wouldn't want to go to those other schools you mentioned and they may not need a center to begin with. No need for the hyperbole. Everyone has acted reasonable and within the current guidelines.

quote:

Exactly. There are a lot of people favoring the proposed NCAA Bylaws changes that will eliminate all transfer and contact restrictions for student athletes who have obtained their bachelors degree, except for the student athlete being required to notify their school of transfer related contact with another school. If approved, that will essentially make it completely legal for all schools to freely, actively and aggressively recruit other schools' players who have their degree.


I would agree that unlimited player contact upon graduation could be problematic (I would be against it), but I haven't seen any people express that to be a required stipulation if the transfer restriction was lifted. Restricting the timeline in which you can communicate, pursue and commit to an in conference transfers I believe will eliminate some of the tampering concerns.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:38 am to
quote:

I'm trying really hard not to fall in love with Pruitt before he coaches a game, because I've had my heart broken so many times over, but he's winning me over.


I project by November you will be back here calling for Pruitt's head over something.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69905 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:48 am to
Nah, he gets at least one mulligan year given the roster.
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