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Posted on 8/26/18 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Barnett couldn't win the job at 7-6 Arizona State and is now on his 3rd team. He was never going to get called at Alabama.


Bruh, Jalen couldn't win the job at Arizona State either.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:01 pm to
He got his number called at Alabama to open the 2016 season and would have likely gotten another opportunity to prove himself later when Jalen struggled. His situation at ASU and transfers are not relevant to his situation at Bama.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:12 pm to
He was better than hurts in 16 we win Natty with bb8
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:17 pm to
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His situation at ASU and transfers are not relevant to his situation at Bama.


I think they are.

He struggled at Bama and bailed for somewhere else and presumably easier only to struggle there too - which he addressed by bailing for yet another program.

Maybe he has matured, but up to this point everything screams looking for the easy way and those types do not succeed/survive at Alabama under Saban.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:25 pm to
Didnt struggle at Bama ...better game than hurts vs USC...Kiffin nut job with. Hurts and Sims over Coker bb8
Posted by JustinT256
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:34 pm to
I literally have to read everything you post like 5 times to understand what you’re trying to say lol
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:37 pm to
Saban having this kind of offensive potential is like a meemaw driving a Lambo.

I hope he uses it, but I doubt he ever gets it on the interstate and lets the horses eat.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:40 pm to
You said..

quote:

He was never going to get called at Alabama.


Which he did. He started the first game of 2016. He also was the clear number 2 that year and would have played mop up and when Jalen struggled if needed.

quote:

Maybe he has matured, but up to this point everything screams looking for the easy way and those types do not succeed/survive at Alabama under Saban.


Your initial argument was that he would not have had his number called which he had and would have had called again had he stayed. Nothing about his transfers or perceived lack of maturity by you would have impacted that. He would have never transferred or lost an ASU QB battle if he stays. On top of that if he stays Tua might not have come making him the clear alternative to Jalen.



This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 7:15 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:35 pm to
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better game than hurts vs USC


What game did you watch?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:56 pm to
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What game did you watch?



For real. I'll say Barnett had 1 or 2 throws late in that game against a defeated USC, but he crumbled early when he started and looked like a deer in the headlights. That one hit may have knocked him silly.

Jalen didn't necessarily look like a superstar, though we all sort of overreacted a bit towards his play with some overzealous praise, but he found the endzone a few times and we beat USC of all schools by 46 in a year they finished top 3 in the rankings. Pretty damn good for his first start.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 10:04 pm to
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22272 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 6:39 am to
quote:

though we all sort of overreacted a bit towards his play with some overzealous praise


You former Hurts guys need to stop lumping us all together to smooth over how wrong you were.

Personally, I predicted BB8 to be our QB that year, and I thought he outplayed Hurts in the USC game. He certainly threw the ball better. And the "deer in the headlights" narrative was silly. He was a young guy playing in his first game on a huge stage, and he looked pretty good doing it. Just like Hurts' "cool and calm" demeanor. You might not see the nerves in his expression, but you could always see it in his play. People were too wrapped up in both narratives.

Secondly, I really think Saban and Kiffin wanted a mobile QB. That's what has hurt Saban's defenses. He knows it's difficult to defend, so he wanted to have one too. That, as much as anything, helped Hurts become the starter.

But, if your QB can only do one of two things, it's always better if he can throw rather than run.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105690 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 7:22 am to
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SAINTS0321


Is this an act or do you actually have this much or a problem putting together coherent sentences?
Posted by GDOAT
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2018
152 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:14 am to
I think Hurts took a step forward in the battle that night but it certainly was not over in my mind. The thing that surprised me was that Barnett got so little opportunity vs WKY. I heard the veterans like Allen were going around telling every one in camp that this Hurts kid was our guy...basically he "won the team". I think that had a big impact.

I believe Saban is the best coach to ever grace the sideline. He's the best at being a CEO, preparation, teaching, motivation and sports psychology. I also think he's one of the greatest at teaching technique and best defensive minds we've ever seen...BUT...I sometimes question his view on QBs. That's just me.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:15 pm to
There are many factors that go on that we aren't privy to that impact the team.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:25 pm to
What Saban has done is rather unique. He has built his dynasty around everything but the QB. Now this isn't a totally new concept, but in today's game it is very uncommon. Saban doesn't like the risk that comes with elite QBs, I don't think he values the offset in the potential vs the risk. He'd rather make up for it in other areas on the field. Now, he has to see that QBs like Tua are great and are worth the risk.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22272 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:34 pm to
I really don't think there's a risk to having a great QB. There's a risk to starting a freshman. There's a risk to playing a guy who is prone to throwing INT's. But, a great QB, who is ready to start, is no more risk than a "safe" QB who doesn't turn the ball over and can't make the plays. Just because a QB CAN throw the ball doesn't mean you have to call those plays.

There's no downside, if all things are equal. And being able to throw a ball isn't inherently riskier. It's all upside. The skill is there when you want/need it.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:07 pm to
2018 Season Depth Chart released



Twitter link
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:45 pm to
LINK ]Alabama releases official depth chart before 2018 season (BamaOnLine)


quote:

Alabama’s first game week of 2018, ahead of the team’s season opener against the Louisville Cardinals in Orlando, started off with a bang Monday. Despite his displeasure, Nick Saban released the team’s first and only depth chart for the upcoming season.

*** This post will be updated.

OFFENSE

QB -- Tua Tagovailoa / Jalen Hurts
Mac Jones

RB -- Damien Harris
Josh Jacobs / Najee Harris
Brian Robinson

WR-X -- DeVonta Smith
Tyrell Shavers

WR-Z -- Henry Ruggs III
Derek Kief / Xavian Marks

WR-H -- Jerry Jeudy
Jaylen Waddle / Chadarius Townsend

TE -- Hale Hentges
Irv Smith Jr. / Kedrick James

TE-H -- Irv Smith Jr.
Miller Forristall / Major Tennison

LT -- Jonah Williams
Scott Lashley / Chris Owens

LG -- Lester Cotton
Joshua Casher

C -- Ross Pierschbacher
Chris Owens / Emil Ekiyor

RG -- Alex Leatherwood
Deonte Brown

RT -- Jedrick Wills
Alex Leatherwood / Richie Petitbon

DEFENSE

DE -- Isaiah Buggs
LaBryan Ray

NG -- Quinnen Williams
Phidarian Mathis

DE -- Raekwon Davis
Johnny Dwight

SAM -- Christian Miller
Jamey Mosley / Eyabi Anoma

MIKE -- Mack Wilson

Joshua McMillon / Markail Benton

WILL -- Dylan Moses
Ale Kaho

JACK -- Anfernee Jennings
Jamey Mosley / Cameron Latu

CB -- Trevon Diggs
Patrick Surtain II / Josh Jobe

CB -- Saivion Smith / Patrick Surtain II
Jalyn Armour-Davis

SS -- Xavier McKinney
Shyheim Carter / Jared Mayden

FS -- Deionte Thompson
Keaton Anderson / Daniel Wright

STAR -- Shyheim Carter
Kyriq McDonald

SPECIAL TEAMS

PK / KO -- Joseph Bulovas / Austin Jones

HOLD -- Tua Tagovailoa
Mac Jones

P -- Skyler DeLong / Miker Bernie

SN -- Thomas Fletcher / Scott Meyer

PR -- Trevon Diggs
Jaylen Waddle

KOR -- Josh Jacobs / Trevon Diggs
Henry Ruggs III / Brian Robinson
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8868 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:25 pm to
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WILL -- Dylan Moses
Ale Kaho

Is Kaho that good that after maybe two weeks he is listed on the two deep depth chart and Ben Davis who has been here three years isn't. Not knocking Davis but he must be soft as Charmin. Well maybe that last statement is knocking him.
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