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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:49 am to
Someone on the rant used a plantation metaphor the other day. I really don’t see why anyone would even be thinking about plantations in 2021. It’s honestly kind of suspicious
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:59 am to
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I've never heard that expression before but if it's truly an expression I'm not sure how anybody can not hear it and think "I mean clearly slavery".

And to say it to a group of young black kids......sheesh man. What are you doing?


Ok, so i'm not the only one that wasn't even familiar with it. I was born and raised in the deep south and have never heard that said either.

And yeah, it is clearly a reference to slavery and/or slaves working on a plantation. At least that how I interpret it - not sure how else there is to take it.

I honestly have no idea how or why anyone would make that statement. Literally nothing good can come from it. It's obviously something that he has heard over the years from somewhere/someone and I doubt this is the first time he's ever said it.

The statement alone doesn't necessarily make him a racist, but the fact that it came out of his mouth when talking a group of predominantly young black men is pretty alarming. I am kind of surprised it didn't cost him his job tbh.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:00 am to
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Are we locked into playing the winner of UK/MSU or can that change based on this weekend?


It can change, but it looks like the most likely scenario has UK/MSU playing in the 8/9 game which we play the winner of.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:04 am to
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Nate Oats is one of 10 national semifinalists for the Naismith coach of the year award. No Alabama coach has ever won that.


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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:05 am to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:06 am to
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Why is Tennessee/Florida playing on Sunday instead of Saturday?


ESPNU 11am Sunday

wtf
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:12 am to
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if it's truly an expression I'm not sure how anybody can not hear it and think "I mean clearly slavery".



It was probably one of those deals where he'd heard it in the past, growing up, or whatever, and never really thought about the roots or implications of it. He SHOULD have known better, but I've said and done stupid things like that too, only to realize years later and be retroactively horrified.

Unless there's more to the story.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:12 am to
Welcome back to Five-out Friday where Hunter Cruse breaks down five topics surrounding Alabama basketball. Today we’ll examine No. 8 Alabama’s wins against Mississippi State and Auburn.

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Alabama wins the SEC regular-season title

Alabama was stuck in mediocrity for the longest time, failing to reach the NCAA Tournament in consecutive seasons over the past decade. Herbert Jones, Alex Reese, and John Petty Jr. are the only three remaining players from Alabama’s disappointing loss to Norfolk State in the first round of the NIT two years ago. Saturday, those three seniors helped the Crimson Tide lock up its first SEC regular-season title since 2002 as Alabama (20-6, 15-2 in the SEC) continues on with its best season in over 20 years.

Looking ahead, Alabama will attempt to regain its offensive prowess before next week’s SEC Tournament as it wraps up its regular season at Georgia on Saturday at 1 p.m. CT. The Tide has fallen off a bit on offense over the past three games, scoring fewer than 70 points in all three outings while compiling a total of 200 points, its lowest total over a three-game stretch at any point this season.

In addition to Alabama’s recent offensive woes, freshman guard Joshua Primo has struggled to find his footing. Like several players his age, it appears he’s hit a freshman wall. Primo played a season-low eight minutes at Mississippi State. His 13 minutes against Auburn earlier this week marked his second-lowest total of the year. He’s shot just 16.7 percent (1 of 6) over the past two games. For Alabama to regain its form on offense, it will need Primo to find his confidence and continue shooting.

Jahvon Quinerly’s hot hand

Since Feb. 2, Alabama guard Jahvon Quinerly has provided consistent efforts on the offensive end, scoring 10 or more points in the Tide’s last eight games. Over that stretch, he has averaged 13.6 points and 2.6 assists on 54 percent shooting from 3. Those numbers present a strong case for him to become the first player from Alabama to be awarded the SEC’s Sixth Man of the Year.



Here’s the highlight that gained buzz across social media during Tuesday’s win over Auburn. Quinerly is operating in a one-on-one situation against 6-foot-10 forward JT Thor (No. 10). The point guard takes advantage of the mismatch by using an in-and-out crossover to get into a dribble hesitation. This causes Thor to become unbalanced and issue a weak recovery attempt on the drive.

Quinerly then uses his ability to attack defenders off the dribble to give himself an edge. He’s a twitchy guard that can change directions in an instant. Those skills combined with his potent 3-point jumper allows Alabama to utilize him in a multitude of ways.

In basketball terms, Quinerly shows great offensive scalability — the ability to mesh alongside other high-usage players. As a reference point, let’s take a look at how Quinerly stacks up against three other SEC guards who share his same role and stature.

To help us compare, we created a metric called Offensive Scalability Rating or OSR similar to an analytic that measures over a 36-minute basis. The formula is fairly simple: total points produced divided by total minutes played divided by usage rate (time impacting the offense) multiplied by 10.

Offensive Scalability Rating

Jahvon Quinerly Alabama .196

JD Notae Arkansas .182

KD Johnson Georgia .178

Deivon Smith Mississippi State .151

This formula values solid production on a lower usage rate rather than solid production on a higher usage rate. Although this offers some limitations, as it’s best to scale players that aren’t used as primary initiators.

For example, Quinerly produced 25 points on 15 percent usage at LSU in January. In that game, his OSR measures out at 0.422. At home against Ole Miss, he produced 24 points while carrying a usage rate over 30 percent. His OSR was 0.242. Both great performances, but his ability to provide an effective off-ball role was larger against LSU, something essential for a team like Alabama that doesn’t have a defined No. 1 option on offense.

Heading into the season, there were some questions as to whether Quinerly could provide on a consistent basis outside of his on-ball creation. During his short tenure at Villanova, he shot an underwhelming 25-percent from 3. That has risen to roughly 44 percent at Alabama, demonstrating his improvements in becoming a reliable complementary option when the team needs him most.

Defensive strides

Last season, Alabama was inconsistent on the defensive end, finishing No. 114 in KenPom.com’s adjusted defensive efficiency rating. The Tide has risen dramatically this season and now sits at No. 3 nationally. Alabama continued its superb defense against Auburn on Tuesday, forcing a season-high 23 turnovers which was also the most Auburn committed this season.



On this possession, all five defenders are engaged on the Alabama side. Auburn looks out of sync failing to execute the dribble handoff. Petty interrupts it, and Keon Ellis provides help defense to defend the point of attack. Petty switches back onto Auburn’s Allen Flanigan (No. 23) and forces him to the baseline. Jordan Bruner is present for the help side defense, resulting in a poorly executed pass that leads to an Alabama fast-break.

Jaden Shackelford’s second-half spark vs. Auburn

Jaden Shackelford played some of his best basketball of the season on Tuesday, finishing with 23 points and three rebounds on 50 percent (8 of 16) shooting. Fifteen of those points coming after halftime. Shackelford has the ability to take over games when he’s on. Alabama’s 9-2 in games that he hits multiple 3-point jumpers. It’s evident that his efforts can raise the team’s ceiling.



Take a look at this possession above. Juwan Gary fights for the offensive rebound and does his best to get the ball out to the perimeter. Jones dives for the loose ball and penetrates towards the basket allowing Quinerly to be hit in stride for a 3. Knowing Shackelford has the hot-hand, Quinerly draws Auburn’s Devan Cambridge (No. 35) to the corner, allowing Shackelford to spot-up for an open shot from beyond the arc. These are the instances that help you win games in March.

Charles Bediako nears a college decision

Throughout the recruiting process, Alabama has remained focused on four-star center Charles Bediako, who shares a relationship with fellow Canadians Joshua Primo and Keon Ambrose-Hylton. Alabama was the presumed favorite for months, but it appears the gap has trimmed. However, the Crimson Tide still holds all five FutureCast predictions ahead of his college decision this month. It’s rumored that Bediako could announce his commitment on March 10 which is his 19th birthday. Here’s a look into his game

Bediako is a rim-running big with great athleticism and mobility at the center position. He’s shown the ability to be an impactful shot-blocker, using his 7-foot-3 wingspan to his advantage. He’s slightly unpolished on the offensive side, which is common for players at his size. He could improve on his outside shooting as well as his post touch. Bediako also struggles to finish consistently in back-to-the-basket situations.


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Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:18 am to
Nate Oats Named to Naismith Men’s Coach of the Year Semifinalist

Alabama men's basketball head coach Nate Oats has been named as a semifinalist for the 2021 Werner Ladder Naismith Men's Coach of the Year, the Atlanta Tipoff Club announced on Friday. Oats is one of 10 coaches from across the nation who was honored with the recognition.

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This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:20 am
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:21 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:21 am to
Yea I'm with all of you on the McDerrmott thing. As others have written about this, it's a time to basically just ask former and current players their opinions and experiences with the guy. If it comes back they love him and he's a fair and honest guy who treats everyone equally, this should be a blip on the radar thing, IMHO.

But I'm not the most 2021 type thinking guy out there so MHO ain't gonna mean much
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:21 am to
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Nate Oats: "Last regular-season game. It'd be nice to play a great game on both sides of the ball to get ourselves rolling going into the SEC Tournament. That's the plan."
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:22 am to
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Bediako also struggles to finish consistently in back-to-the-basket situations.


Considering the fact that I don't remember a single post up back to the basket play from a big all year I think we're ok with that
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:23 am to
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Nate Oats on Georgia game: “I don’t think it’s meaningless...We’re not gonna to rest guys or anything like that. We’re going to try and get into a good rhythm.”
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:26 am to
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Nate Oats says he's pro conference tournaments: "It's another chance for your kids to win another championship."
Posted by Chadaristic
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41017 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:27 am to
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Nate Oats on the Georgia game: "I don't think it's meaningless. I think we need to get back playing well. The last time we did play well on offense was that game, but we didn't play good on defense. We haven't had a great game on both sides of the ball here for a while."
Posted by CmnRef
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
60 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:28 am to
"How Ya Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (After They've Seen Paree)?"
How 'ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm (After they've seen Paree) (SM-2-073).jpg
Sheet music cover
Song
Published 1919
Composer(s) Walter Donaldson
Lyricist(s) Joe Young, Sam M. Lewis
"How Ya Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (After They've Seen Paree?)" is a World War I song that rose to popularity after the war had ended. The lyrics highlight concern that American soldiers from rural environments would not want to return to farm life after experiencing the European city life and culture of Paris during World War I.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:29 am to
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Nate Oats on JD Davison: "He's super talented. With the way we play, as fast and open, he's gonna fit perfectly. He's hard to guard coming downhill with a full head of steam, he's so athletic. He's almost impossible to keep out of the paint when you give him enough space."
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:31 am to
Are you saying that you think that's what he was implying? Seems like kind of stretch imo.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:44 am to
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Nate Oats asked if he likes conference tournaments.

“I've played in four of them as a Division I head coach. We’ve won three of them. So I’m a fan of them."
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