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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
The shot clock was 45 seconds back then too. 
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
The only teams to break 70 FGA per game since 2002
- 2007 VMI (81.7 FGA per game)
- 2008 VMI (73.3 FGA per game)
- 2009 VMI (71.2 FGA per game)
- 2010 VMI (73.1 FGA per game)
- 2014 VMI (70.5 FGA per game)
- 2016 Citadel (70.3 FGA per game)
- 2017 Citadel (71.5 FGA per game)
- 2017 Savannah St (70.0 FGA per game)
- 2018 Savannah St (73.4 FGA per game)
- 2021 Eastern Kentucky (70.1 FGA per game)
- 2007 VMI (81.7 FGA per game)
- 2008 VMI (73.3 FGA per game)
- 2009 VMI (71.2 FGA per game)
- 2010 VMI (73.1 FGA per game)
- 2014 VMI (70.5 FGA per game)
- 2016 Citadel (70.3 FGA per game)
- 2017 Citadel (71.5 FGA per game)
- 2017 Savannah St (70.0 FGA per game)
- 2018 Savannah St (73.4 FGA per game)
- 2021 Eastern Kentucky (70.1 FGA per game)
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:58 am to TomRollTideRitter
The only problem for Alabama is that it pays $5 mil, Bama pays $1 mil. Hopefully, others on the list will be selected first.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:00 pm to Glorious
Dear God our gym is such a depressing dump
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:16 pm to UASports23
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I didn't say it was one night. I said it maybe his coming out party.
He has been a top 15 scorer this year BUT he hasn't had a ton of Media coverage bc it's the Cavs.
Beating KD, Kyrie, and Harden gets you that primetime adoration and that elevates your profile thus your "coming out party"
Calm down, I didn't accuse you of anything. I just posted something I saw on Twitter.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I've read before that the difference between the Westhead System and the modern tempo systems (like Oats) is that the Westhead System was basically making every offensive possession a fast break. Oats system is making every offensive possession a secondary break.
The fast break option means you basically have to forfeit playing defense. Your defense is conditioning - you are going to wear them out and make them start taking bad shots to keep up, missing easy looks or making tired mistakes (turnovers).
The secondary break option means you can still play meaningful defense, your offensive possessions just become a push down the floor into 2-3 options within the first 10 seconds.
That's really interesting. Maybe interests no one but there was a famous soccer coach, Zeman, who employed this approach to a similarly radical degree. The idea was basically to make the full 90 minutes complete vertical fast break, back and forth. What he continually said in interviews was that what seemed like chance driven chaos was won in his summer conditioning program. His players would make better decisions and create more chances than the other team when the frantic pace began to take it's toll.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:42 pm to wm72
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That's really interesting. Maybe interests no one but there was a famous soccer coach, Zeman, who employed this approach to a similarly radical degree. The idea was basically to make the full 90 minutes complete vertical fast break, back and forth. What he continually said in interviews was that what seemed like chance driven chaos was won in his summer conditioning program. His players would make better decisions and create more chances than the other team when the frantic pace began to take it's toll.
It definitely feels like one of those strategies you implement when maybe you don't have a talent advantage, because it's an area where you can create an advantage simply through something you completely control. And especially using it against teams/leagues that do not typically play or see that style of play. It's not something you can just "prepare for" for 2-3 days before a game.
However, as we've seen with Nate's system, you better have guys who are elite decision makers and have completely comfort with that sort of system, or it is going to look ugly and you are going to lose games 124-82. When you speed everything up, your guys better be totally fine not thinking and trusting their instincts or else it's gonna be a disaster.
Obviously there are a lot of parallels to the early 2010 era "fastball" football offenses.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I feel like Ala owning an overall record of 110-74 vs LSU should be discussed more. Nobody has beaten them more than us. It's not real close.
Nobody has beaten them more than us. It's not real close. Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It definitely feels like one of those strategies you implement when maybe you don't have a talent advantage
Ehhhhh, I don't know about that. Can you imagine a late Grant era team playing a run and gun style of basketball? Even if those players boosted their stamina ratings to 99 few had the skills to play that way. They'd lose by 30+ every night. It's a good style for a top heavy roster, but if you don't have any talent you're going to find yourself down by 30 before superior conditioning starts to give you an edge.
I think a better way of looking at it is that it can negate an athleticism deficiency. You're all but eliminating the need for players who can beat defenders off the dribble because the defense is rarely going to be set. You do need guys who can pass and shoot at a very, very high level though. Otherwise you're just giving away possession after possession.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Obviously there are a lot of parallels to the early 2010 era "fastball" football offenses.
I agree, and I also think you’ll see a lot more teams start to run this stuff just like football. I think when that happens it actually exacerbates a talent disadvantage. More possessions = more chances for the better players to win.
I think in football we’re going to see teams go the other way and really start to run clock to shorten games. Kentucky, Iowa State already do this and play above their heads because of it.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:20 pm to saban n bear
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Why can recruits twist the truth to recruiting experts on 247, realize they were lying, everyone say “ah well, their kids, recruiting is fluid,” then turn around and act like the same thing couldn’t happen to me?
Because f*ck you, that's why.
Nah, just messing with you.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:25 pm to mistaken4193
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I’m glad you were wrong about Trendon. He doesn’t shoot well enough to play for us...frick Him
Can't agree with you there. He are his stats. he's sitting 39% from 3, which isn't bad. Now, I'm not sure if he's shite talked Bama. But I'm not gonna say "frick him" because he didn't go to Bama. That's some LSU shite.
Now, if he did shite talk Bama in the media, sure, he can eat a dick. But I haven't read anything if him talking bad about Bama.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:25 pm to IB4bama
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We played Loyola Marymount in the ncaa tournament in the early 90s. They averaged over 120 points per game, but Wimp decided to slow the game down. It was close but we lost. We actually had a fairly high scoring team, but that Loyola team was crazy good. I think they has 2 or 3 on that team that are in the basketball hall of fame. Wimp has stated several times that he made a mistake in slowing the game down, but I doubt it would have mattered. They didnt care if you scored. They would just grab the ball and sling it down to the other end as fast as they could. Wimp had our guys slap the ball after it went through the net on a score by us, and that worked for a while, until the refs caught onto what we were doing.
Wimp almost pulled that off, but I will go to my grave thinking we should have run with that team. Wimp had the players go tic for tat with that team. Think we could have run and won
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:35 pm to Legba007
I attended that game and was so disappointed about how we played that day. Wimp outsmarted himself by overthinking.
Loyola was good offensively but had lost their best player so we were pretty evenly matched. I still think we could have won the game by playing them straight up.
Loyola was good offensively but had lost their best player so we were pretty evenly matched. I still think we could have won the game by playing them straight up.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Arkansas might get blown out three games in a row the way it's looking.
They just aren't very good
Arky fans are the first to say they played mostly cupcakes in their OOC schedule. A couple think it was because their coach knew they wouldn't be good this year.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:44 pm to CCTider
evenly matched? We had 3-4 guys on that team that played pro ball. We were 1-7 from the 3 line. ughh.
Horry had 8 turnovers, Askins 6. ouch. (24 total)
We were 1-7 from the 3 line. ughh. Horry had 8 turnovers, Askins 6. ouch. (24 total)
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:47 pm to My2Bits
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Loyola was good offensively but had lost their best player so we were pretty evenly matched. I still think we could have won the game by playing them straight up.
I'm not enough of a basketball fan to know which was the better approach, but I loved that we made Loyola run the floor all game. If I recall, one of the things we noticed in scouting them was they didn't even always come all the way back down court -- essentially allowing a team to get paint points but then throwing a long pass as the inbound to an open three-shooter on their end.
I don't remember who they played after us ... seems like it was Duke or UNLV ... but I remember whoever it was absolutely destroyed them (like by 20 or 30 points). Loyola players were still gassed from our game.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:50 pm to My2Bits
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:10 pm to UASports23
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Last night may have been Collins coming out party in the NBA.
I always thought this was a weird expression.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:12 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Is conference commissioner even a good job?
Larry Scott made $4.8 million last year.
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What does the conference commissioner really do other than take credit for what the schools accomplish?
So, a do nothing job that gets paid almost $5 million a year? Sign me the frick up. That shite could be in Mogadishu, and I'd take it.
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