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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:58 am to Robot Santa
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:58 am to Robot Santa
quote:Be careful of what you wish for.
I hope we start to produce a steady stream of NBA talent. It doesn't have to be on Kentucky or Duke's level, but consistently putting 1-2 players in the first round every year will just fuel recruiting even more. "We play at ludicrous speed and you'll get benched if you don't shoot" is already a really easy recruiting pitch. Tack on "then you'll go make a ton of money in the NBA after a couple of years" and 90% of the job is done before Oats even meets the kid.
The Kentucky folks are already talking about bringing Oates to Lexington....just saying.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:00 am to coachcrisp
So we'd want to wish to be mediocre and not have anyone want our coach? I've done that one, it sucks. I'll take this.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
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So we'd want to wish to be mediocre and not have anyone want our coach? I've done that one, it sucks. I'll take this.
I didn't say that! I was just pointing out the positive and negative to such a wish. If you don't believe that he'll be sought after by big-name basketball schools in a year or two if we rocket up into the top tier, you're in for a big surprise. What chance would Alabama have of keeping him if, say, Kentucky decided they wanted him?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:14 am to mistaken4193
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It seemed like at least half the 3s we hit were in his face. AND I LOVED IT.
Against the backdrop of Watford's commitment to Will Wade's LSU under suspicious circumstances and the hoopla last year after he whined about Alabama fans booing him:
John Petty cockily dribbling -- behind his back -- right up to Watford to open the game with a long three pointer in his face ranks high among my favorite all-time Alabama basketball moments.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:23 am to wm72
I think we really need to start a petition or something to keep Nate. I don’t think people realize how quickly offers will pour when he wins the SEC. he’s turning this program around quickly. We are doing things to good teams that Duke and Kentucky haven’t done recently.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:25 am to coachcrisp
After the LSU game I was trying to think back to remember if I'd ever seen a college team as hot from long range as we were Tuesday.
The only possible game I could come up with was the 1987 Sweet-Sixteen game we played against Providence. We had what I consider one of the best Alabama teams ever, but we ran into a buzzsaw of a Providence team coached by Rick Petino (Billy Donovan was the point guard).
We could almost score at well down low (Derrick McKey, Jim Farmer and Michael Ansley), but while we were scoring 2's, they were going down and raining 3s on us.
It was a very strange game. It felt like we were winning, but the scoreboard showed us down 8-10-11-12-13, etc. points!
The only possible game I could come up with was the 1987 Sweet-Sixteen game we played against Providence. We had what I consider one of the best Alabama teams ever, but we ran into a buzzsaw of a Providence team coached by Rick Petino (Billy Donovan was the point guard).
We could almost score at well down low (Derrick McKey, Jim Farmer and Michael Ansley), but while we were scoring 2's, they were going down and raining 3s on us.
It was a very strange game. It felt like we were winning, but the scoreboard showed us down 8-10-11-12-13, etc. points!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:27 am to coachcrisp
Providence was 14-20 from behind the line, 70%. Ala was 7-23 that day. Worst loss ever for me. I may have shed a few tears. They shot almost 70% from the field that day.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:30 am to McGregor
We had a helluva team. Seems like Gottfried and Terry Connor were our guards.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:30 am to Chadaristic
Maybe I'm wrong but does it not seem like UA completely half-assed the attendance in Coleman this year? You'll watch other games around the conference and they'll have the arena in a distanced pattern just like the football games. But our games have massive sections with no fans. This team deserves at least some crowd support in Coleman this year. Why not let a 1500 students and equally disperse them?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:31 am to coachcrisp
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What chance would Alabama have of keeping him if, say, Kentucky decided they wanted him?
I think it really just depends on him. Does he want to build a program or take over an existing one?
I think we can pay him enough to be competitive.
Alabama has fans that will pack out the stands if we are competitive.
The University is probably more than likely willing to build him new facilities and upgrades if we are competitive.
He has done pretty well in recruiting already and players will go where winning coaches are.
Would it be easier for him to go some place like Kentucky versus staying? Probably in a lot of ways, but expectations will be higher.
I'd say we have a better chance of keeping him than Michigan State had keeping Saban.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:38 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:32 am to Glorious
It's because our arena is huge. We have people sitting 3 miles away up top. My season tix are on the 12th row. I'm 8 rows from the ceiling in this new plan for this year.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:41 am to NATidefan
The starting salary at Kentucky would probably be 6-8 mil per year. (I think Calapari's salary is around 12 mil.)
Have you ever seen the basketball facilities at UK? (they're on par with Alabama's football)
The most popular and well known person in the state is the UK basketball coach.
As with Alabama football, Kentucky is considered the pinnacle of college basketball.
Hey! I would give your left nut if we can keep him, but I'm just saying that we'd have to be both committed AND lucky!
Have you ever seen the basketball facilities at UK? (they're on par with Alabama's football)
The most popular and well known person in the state is the UK basketball coach.
As with Alabama football, Kentucky is considered the pinnacle of college basketball.
Hey! I would give your left nut if we can keep him, but I'm just saying that we'd have to be both committed AND lucky!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:51 am to coachcrisp
Calapari's contract is 86 million for 10 years. Average 8.5 year.
If they wanted Oats they would probably only offer him 5 million a year max right now.
Dont get me wrong, it will be hard to keep him most likely. But I dont think its undoable.
Best thing we can do as fans is buy tickets, watch games, and show support. If we are interested and the money is flowing in, the university will be interested.
If they wanted Oats they would probably only offer him 5 million a year max right now.
Dont get me wrong, it will be hard to keep him most likely. But I dont think its undoable.
Best thing we can do as fans is buy tickets, watch games, and show support. If we are interested and the money is flowing in, the university will be interested.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:12 am to coachcrisp
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After the LSU game I was trying to think back to remember if I'd ever seen a college team as hot from long range as we were Tuesday.
The best offensive halves I'd ever seen in an Alabama game before Tuesday we're
- Alabama/State 2004 1st half (the Shelton game)
- Villanova/Alabama 2018 2nd half (Nova)
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:14 am to NATidefan
I agree, but to be realistic, we're gonna need some good fortune also.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:18 am to NATidefan
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Best thing we can do as fans is buy tickets, watch games, and show support. If we are interested and the money is flowing in, the university will be interested.
And not bitch on twitter like idiots who have watched just enough basketball to not know what we're talking about and piss Oats off.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:27 am to Teague
Here are all the games vs teams that finished in the Top 200 in KenPom in which we had offensive efficiency > 120.0.
Had almost forgotten about that Ole Miss game last year because it was right after that miserable home loss to Texas A&M. We scored 1.36 Pt Per Possession, 1.33 vs LSU. Of course, if you could remove "garbage time" like in football stats and basically chop off the last 10 minutes of the game, I'm guessing the LSU game is top of this list.
Had almost forgotten about that Ole Miss game last year because it was right after that miserable home loss to Texas A&M. We scored 1.36 Pt Per Possession, 1.33 vs LSU. Of course, if you could remove "garbage time" like in football stats and basically chop off the last 10 minutes of the game, I'm guessing the LSU game is top of this list.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:29 am to coachcrisp
We played Loyola Marymount in the ncaa tournament in the early 90s. They averaged over 120 points per game, but Wimp decided to slow the game down. It was close but we lost. We actually had a fairly high scoring team, but that Loyola team was crazy good. I think they has 2 or 3 on that team that are in the basketball hall of fame. Wimp has stated several times that he made a mistake in slowing the game down, but I doubt it would have mattered. They didnt care if you scored. They would just grab the ball and sling it down to the other end as fast as they could. Wimp had our guys slap the ball after it went through the net on a score by us, and that worked for a while, until the refs caught onto what we were doing.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:32 am to IB4bama
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We played Loyola Marymount in the ncaa tournament in the early 90s. They averaged over 120 points per game, but Wimp decided to slow the game down. It was close but we lost. We actually had a fairly high scoring team, but that Loyola team was crazy good. I think they has 2 or 3 on that team that are in the basketball hall of fame. Wimp has stated several times that he made a mistake in slowing the game down, but I doubt it would have mattered. They didnt care if you scored. They would just grab the ball and sling it down to the other end as fast as they could. Wimp had our guys slap the ball after it went through the net on a score by us, and that worked for a while, until the refs caught onto what we were doing.
I've read before that the difference between the Westhead System and the modern tempo systems (like Oats) is that the Westhead System was basically making every offensive possession a fast break. Oats system is making every offensive possession a secondary break.
The fast break option means you basically have to forfeit playing defense. Your defense is conditioning - you are going to wear them out and make them start taking bad shots to keep up, missing easy looks or making tired mistakes (turnovers).
The secondary break option means you can still play meaningful defense, your offensive possessions just become a push down the floor into 2-3 options within the first 10 seconds.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
In 1989-90 LMU averaged 87.8 FG attempts per game. That's 2.2 shots per minute.
So far this season, the most FG attempts per game is Eastern Kentucky at 70.1. That's 1.8 shots per minute.
Alabama averages 64.8 FG per game (1.6 shots per minute).
Nothing even come close to comparison with the way they played. I wish we had average possession length for those teams - it had to be less than 10 seconds.
So far this season, the most FG attempts per game is Eastern Kentucky at 70.1. That's 1.8 shots per minute.
Alabama averages 64.8 FG per game (1.6 shots per minute).
Nothing even come close to comparison with the way they played. I wish we had average possession length for those teams - it had to be less than 10 seconds.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:43 am
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