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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:47 am to
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:47 am to
Coach Cottrell doing work. Kid is a true baller.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:59 am to
Not saying he will be. He has more speed than Tennison but there is a reason he is a 3 star and the staff had him rated 4th or lower on their board . Just saying

He is athletic which we need but I would hold off on the second coming of Gronk for now
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:17 am
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:27 am to
That reason is that his senior film got out and coaches saw it. He won't be a 3* when the recruiting services make their final ratings. This isn't to say that we'll sign him, but he's a really good prospect.
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:32 am to
Josh Jacobs was a 3 star just saying
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60025 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:36 am to
I see a CB pick for Jayson Jones to Oregon. Are you moving on from him?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:36 am to

LINK ]Josh Jacobs, 3-star, #11 APB, #469 player


LINK ]Irv Smith Jr., 3-star, #22 TE, #528 player

LINK ]Brandon Frazier, 3-star, #24 TE, #613 player
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:39 am to
Oh yea. I hope we do sign him. We need another playmaker at the position . I like Billingsley too.

Coaches know about players long before recruiting services get their film
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:47 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:40 am to
Doesn’t want to play OL. Goes to Oregon and ends up playing OL.
Posted by Sebastian
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:45 am to
Irv and Josh left college as 5 stars.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15042 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:54 am to
Misinterpreting my point. Not saying 3 stars can’t be good players
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

We kow we NEED a TE in this class but looking at SOME of his film, he could be another Tennison at the next level. JMO

Not saying he will be. He has more speed than Tennison but there is a reason he is a 3 star and the staff had him rated 4th or lower on their board. Just saying. He is athletic which we need but I would hold off on the second coming of Gronk for now.

Misinterpreting my point. Not saying 3 stars can’t be good players.

What exactly was your point?
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:03 pm to
I got your point. Players can be vastly underrated and overlooked.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20097 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:12 pm to
You obsess over stars too much. For me many of the recruiting analyst not only lie about their connections but have no idea what they are even rating.


When Gibbs is a 4-star and Frazier is a 3-star it tells me all I need to know.

Which is why the better coaching staffs don't go off their ratings and actually break down film and get the kids to camps to grade them themselves.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15042 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:15 pm to
My point was I don’t think coaches or services overlooked him. They liked other players better for a reason. I am not a star gazer . He may develop into the next best thing but the staff liked Gilbert , Washington, and Pegues better and just bc we missed on those guys doesn't necessarily mean the next man up is “overlooked” or “wanted him more “ anyways type stuff
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted by FeralFeral
Member since Dec 2017
1530 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:25 pm to
The Appeal to Josh Jacobs should really be its own logical fallacy.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15042 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

You obsess over stars too much.



No dude

As a coach I watch A LOT of film. Form my own opinions . You guys are preaching g to the choir . I think he can be a great asset to Bama . We need a TE in the class
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

I don’t think coaches or services overlooked him

247Sports' evaluation of Brandon Frazier:
quote:

Scouting Report

(blank = overlooked)

Athletic Background

2019: Earned first-team all-district honors as a senior. 2018: Was a unanimous first-team all-district selection as a junior.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 5:22 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20097 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:41 pm to
You don't know if the stsff liked Pegues better. All of that is speculation which most likely was made up.

Washington and Gilbert at athletic specimen. They aren't incorrectly rated.

Frazier however has great athletic ability and is well trained in playing the position. Film don't lie.

It's like saying Gibbs isn't that impressive because we got three other backs. That just isn't true.

I don't see why this is so hard to grasp.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15042 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:53 pm to
You don’t k ow that they didn’t either . Saban went I visit Pegues long before they got on Frazier .

But you are right. Frazier is prolly the best TE prospect in the country and has been targeted by our staff all along. Feel better?

Happy New Year
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20097 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:30 pm to
I never said he was the best in the country. It is obvious Gilbert and Washington have more upside hence they are rated higher.

Frazier doesn't have to be the best to be a damn good one or a future forst round pick.

Seriously what is your problem man?
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