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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:55 pm to
Agreed

My point as well. Not a roster full but find that one or two who are players that fall to mid major teams
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:00 pm to
We had one in Lawson.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:12 pm to
That mother fricker should have played over Daddy’s boy.
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:34 pm to


Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:39 pm to
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but we never get.guys that are just basketball players


What the hell does this even mean? This sounds like the basketball version of "rundabawl!"

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Did i say a bunch? At the end of the day kid can play ball


Oh so you just want us to successfully pick and choose the handful of mid-major caliber players who will be late bloomers and end up becoming capable of being big contributors on a power conference roster. Simple as that huh? You better send your crystal ball to Oats.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:09 pm to
Wha
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What the hell does this even mean? This sounds like the basketball version of "rundabawl!"



Its self explanatory. A player who plays fundamental basketball. Doesnt rely on athleticism to make plays. Knows when to cut. Knows when to pass. Like guys who live basketball.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:10 pm to
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We had one in Lawson.


I kind of agree with you. If we wouldve let him play he could've been an asset.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:51 pm to
shite, if he had eligibility left, he’d be an asset this year.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:27 pm to
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A player who plays fundamental basketball. Doesnt rely on athleticism to make plays. Knows when to cut. Knows when to pass


You mean stuff that can be coached? Stuff that coaches are paid to teach to young players who don't yet know how to do those things?

The vast majority of kids who go to mid-majors aren't any more fundamentally sound as freshmen than the kids we sign. I don't know where yall got this idea that mid major signee = smart, savvy, "real" basketball player and Alabama signee = raw athlete who doesn't know how to play.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:17 pm to
One or two is fine but you can't overload on those types in a major conference. I understand the point though bc J. Belen and Bo Ryan made their living on those type of players. Think of Stephen Curry at Davidson, big schools didn't want him bc he was too small. Same with Frank Kaminsky. A good indicator is to see if they come from a family of bballl players and if they're due for a growth spurt. Since they're smaller or even younger than their peers, they have to compensate by being better at fundamentals. Same issue in soccer.

Steve Kerr and J. Harbaugh made said kids should def. play soccer in their early years bc of the wonders it does for footwork. When Dirk Notwitzki was a teen, he only focused on shooting and passing drills.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:30 am to
You just want to argue huh...go talk to your wife
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44349 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:15 am to
OK buddy. I'm glad the coaches don't listen to people like you who want us to sign kids who aren't going to be able to compete at this level until their junior or senior seasons, if they ever are, because you think marginal athlete who is still good enough to play D1 college basketball somehow equates to fundamentally sound and high basketball IQ. For every late bloomer like Lillard, Curry, and Morant who is overlooked in high school there are 500 kids who would never play serious minutes for us. The odds of getting one of the former are basically zero.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:23 am to
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Steve Kerr and J. Harbaugh made said kids should def. play soccer in their early years bc of the wonders it does for footwork

Kerr wants them to play soccer because it helps with spatial awareness, identifying passing lanes, etc.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44349 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:09 am to
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One or two is fine but you can't overload on those types in a major conference. I understand the point though bc J. Belen and Bo Ryan made their living on those type of players.


No they didn't. They were signing guys who were power conference prospects but just weren't being pursued by programs like Duke, Kentucky, UNC, and Kansas. They both signed a ton of kids who were considered top 100-200 recruits.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12953 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:49 am to
The past years we have signed guys that were similar to him. Guys that were not high major talents. If you dont see that having a guy like him on the team is a plus thats on you.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:58 pm to
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They both signed a ton of kids who were considered top 100-200 recruits.



I think guys ranked in the 100-200 range but not raw projects are they actually trying to refer to. Basically, a kid who has some limitation for top end talent but may not impact CBB game.



If the kid is an elite athlete, thicc, soft hands with post skills at 6'6 240, he'd make a hell of a CBB center but is almost for sure not going to be a 4* center recruit


Guys like JJ Frazier, Yante Maten, Grant Williams, and others were all great players who were odd position fits or didn't project as obvious NBA talents. As a result, all of them were very low rated
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24477 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Alabama debuts at No. 96 in the first NET rankings.

The remaining non-conference opponents are at Samford (No.257), Belmont (No.97), and Richmond (No.22).

The latter two games will be Q1/Q2 win opportunities.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40783 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:02 am to
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The recruitment of Karim Mane remains one of the more difficult ones to read and things didn’t get any easier last week. The five-star guard will be out for up to a month due to a deep bone bruise, which might make it more difficult for Mane to sift through the various avenues that he could take next year.

The Spartans are not just battling Alabama, DePaul, Marquette and Maryland for his services, but also the NBA where he could make the jump directly to the league thanks to his age and the fact that he will be a year removed from his high school graduation come June.

I do believe Michigan State will receive an official visit from him, but the lone visit that he has scheduled for now is for Marquette on Jan. 3. If the Spartans miss out on Mane, there is no one available in the 2020 class that would fill the program's big need at the lead guard spot. Jalen Terry is still open but a remarriage of sorts doesn’t seem at hand.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:26 am to
Dammit. We need him. frick off MSU.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44349 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:00 am to
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I think guys ranked in the 100-200 range but not raw projects are they actually trying to refer to. Basically, a kid who has some limitation for top end talent but may not impact CBB game.


Nah man, this discussion started over the claim that Alabama needs to sign a kid ranked outside of the top 300 whose only offers are from lower tier mid-majors.

There's a big difference between a guy whose measurables, athleticism, and skill level all say "mid-major player" and a guy whose athleticism and skill level say "NBA" but whose body says "hahaha frick you I'm not growing anymore".
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