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re: Why is Kirby so resistant to change?

Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:04 pm to
maybe Kirby going to the national championship game with a freshman quarterback means he knows a little more about football than you do.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6944 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:05 pm to
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We have been playing with receivers who run poor routes.


5* Wrs should not be running poor routes. Not even true freshmen.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 4:20 am to
Simmons and landers were 3 star upperclassmen

They shouldn't be running poor routes but they do.

It makes more sense for 5 star freshmen to not being crisp and on their Mark's. I think you have it backwards.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 7:27 am
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2540 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 7:26 am to
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ETA-- And SAban Lost to South Carolina in one of those NC seasons!!!!!!!!!!


Negative. That was in 2010, and Alabama also lost to LSU and Auburn that year.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:03 am to
Marcus Spears, Greg McElroy, and Tim Tebow have already said the problem is Coley not the players. Why are we still discussing this?
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 8:04 am
Posted by Dr Greg House
Member since Jan 2019
325 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:04 am to
We have 5 star talent at every position with a veteran QB and Coley (Kirby’s responsibility) is running this offense like a scared little boy.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:10 am to
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the "true freshman" label shouldn't have as much effect on guys at their skill level at the WR position.


The best WR recruit in the nation (Jason Haselwood)has less yards than Pickens.Playing WR as a true freshman and making an impact isn't easy.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:17 am to
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Marcus Spears, Greg McElroy, and Tim Tebow


That obviously settles it! You think any of these geniuses actually broke down any game films?

Here's a guy who actually did and gives an analysis of what went wrong LINKSorry if it doesn't fit your narrative.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2282 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:26 am to
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I thought our recruiting was supposed to be at the Alabama level for the last few years


I don't know how. It was patently obvious to anyone that receiver position was lacking in experience. I think we were so enamored with the recruiting in other areas we kinda forgot about.....
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Here's a guy who actually did and gives an analysis of what went wrong LINKSorry if it doesn't fit your narrative.


All that shows is the 3 interceptions. The first one was Fromm’s fault 100%. The other two were the receivers faults.

That doesn’t explain the shite vanilla predictable conservative playcalling throughout the entire game. The coaching staff didn’t respect SC’s defense and it put our players in a bad position.

It’s very obvious that had we not had the turnovers we would have won but the game still would have been closer than it should have been. We sure as hell wouldn’t have won by 20 like Tennessee did. If our coaches had a better game plan the team could have overcome the turnovers and still won. South Carolina is not a good team and we should have blown them out. But nooooo we have to call conservative plays, play keep away, and rely on out athleting the other team.

When you play like that you have to play perfect or else you risk losing. Think about it....You play keep away, call a play not to lose game and if you have better athletes you will win every time IF you don’t turn the ball over. If you turn the ball over and the other team capitalizes then it’s going to be hard to come back because you designed everything to play keep away rather than score quickly.

Teams like LSU and Alabama can afford turnovers because they can score quickly. With our current game plan we cannot afford turnovers because we cannot score quick enough to make up for it.

Players are always going to make mistakes. That’s football and it’s impossible to play perfect. But if the coaches aren’t putting players in the best possible position to win and win big then they’ll never be able to overcome.

PS: it doesn’t take a genius to notice shite play calling. When Tebow, Spears, and McElroy notice it then you know it’s not all in our heads. Their knowledge of the game is far superior to ours.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:15 pm to
Pickens just stood there and watched as the DB closed 3 yards to hawk the ball, then Pickens made up for it by standing there watching the DB head to the endzone.

It would not have been intercepted if he made any attempt to come back for it as he would have cut the DB off and maybe got a PI penalty to keep the drive alive.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:51 pm to
I agree.

But that doesn’t excuse the play calling.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2033 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:09 pm to
That's awesome! Bring out the Gimp!!
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2033 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:14 pm to
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I think this is a good bit of it. When we double team a DT and then both OL release to get upfield leaving the DT to make the play at the line of scrimmage... someone doesn't know their job.

We died against South carolina by 1000 small mental mistakes. The coaches have to do better getting us ready.



I listened to Jon Stinchcombs analysis of USC and this is exactly what he said. Missed blocking assignments over and over. Pair that with inability of receivers to get open and you have our current offensive woes.

Just goes to show, to get to the promised land almost everything has to go right for a team and you have to get some luck too. That's a rare combination of events.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:50 pm to
More pissed about Kirby and the teams lack of killer instinct when SCU tried to hand us the game twice and we were still too incompetent to take it from them.

On to Florida.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:58 pm to
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All that shows is the 3 interceptions. The first one was Fromm’s fault 100%. The other two were the receivers faults.


That's what he highlighted and I can promise you it's more film than any of those guys looked at. The film also shows me that execution or lack thereof is our biggest issue.ALL 3 Of those pics could've been avoided with proper execution...from the OL to the WR's to the QB.It also shows the complete lack of separation D-Rob gets on the opposite side of the 1st pic and also shows Landers getting thrown around like a rag doll on the 2 nd pic.There also wasn't anything wrong with each of the play calls...he 3rd pic especially.It was exactly the right play for the SC defense.

The ONLY guys opinion I value on the SECN are Stinchcomb and Chizek.Both those guys actually put in the work and study game film.The rest are there to get a reaction and ratings.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 9:03 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:54 pm to
Reread my entire response and try again.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:21 pm to
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Reread my entire response and try again.


So are you telling our lack of execution didn't play a big part in the SC loss?

Which one of those 3 plays weren't the "correct"call?

Did the film not show you just how pathetic those 2 WR's are at getting open?

You wanna continually bitch about the play
calling in the game but Fromm through 50+ passes and had to continually throw in tight spaces because our WR's couldn't get
separation in man coverage.

No excuses this Saturday if we get a healthy Cager back along with Kearis Jackson. We also hopefully get Kindley and
Cleveland at 100% on the OL.

Ill bitch as much as anyone if Coley doesn't get his act together vs UF.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 6:15 am to
There’s no way you read what I wrote. Either that or you have a comprehension issue.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17476 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 6:17 am to
Good grief am seeing a lot of alters...
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