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re: What’s up with all the homeless people in Savannah?
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:48 pm to SquatchDawg
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:48 pm to SquatchDawg
Homelessness in Savannah isn’t really that bad, especially downtown. There is a “tent city” under an overpass about a mile from downtown and sometimes they will wander to the squares during the day but it’s not nearly as bad as made out in the OP. Maybe it was just a bad weekend, plus SCAD students can smell homeless.
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:06 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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I was surprised at the amount of young homeless people in Portland mmt last trip out there.
It’s really bad and getting worse. They’re 90% drug addicts. The police “crack down”, do sweeps, clear out their camps, throw them in jail, and they go right back and rebuild.
Not making excuses for them at all. I can’t stand it. I don’t pretend to know the answer. It’s likely a combination of enforcement and support services, all of which cost the taxpayer a lot of money and people don’t really want to fund it.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:45 pm to SquatchDawg
Thanks for the heads-up. I will limit my visits in Georgia to the extreme North mountain areas where this doesn't appear to be a problem....or, at least it didn't appear to be when I was there back in March.
Of course, there was also a cold snap that weekend, so that may be why it wasn't a problem. Brasstown Bald had snow on the top and ice on the observation deck on the 31st of March.
Of course, there was also a cold snap that weekend, so that may be why it wasn't a problem. Brasstown Bald had snow on the top and ice on the observation deck on the 31st of March.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 6:57 am to HinesvilleThrill
quote:I think that's the problem too. OP thinks Savannah is overrun with homeless when in reality it's just private art-school students being themselves.
Maybe it was just a bad weekend, plus SCAD students can smell homeless.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:35 am to Kneehigh
Yes. Just ask Amazon employees...lol.
Edit: regarding the 15.00 minimum wage. They aren’t happy about it.
Edit: regarding the 15.00 minimum wage. They aren’t happy about it.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 7:40 am
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:36 am to Barstools
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Eh, is pretty much the main reason.
I guess what I was getting at was there is probably a significant amount of more organic mental illness situations going on in the homeless population as well, but that is also a portion prone to getting addicted to heroin so it’s all kind of the same in a fricked up way.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:41 am to Crowknowsbest
Drug addiction and alcohlism is just self medicating likely undiagnosed conditions.
It's all related. That said longterm homelessness is a choice as there are mountains of resources for them.
It's all related. That said longterm homelessness is a choice as there are mountains of resources for them.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 1:51 pm to PDXDawg
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I don’t pretend to know the answer.
We've found two in the back of the head to be a rather effective answer.
- Brazilian police
Posted on 4/18/19 at 1:55 pm to Crowknowsbest
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there is probably a significant amount of more organic mental illness situations going on in the homeless population as well
Yep. Many were people who, prior to the 1960s, would have been institutionalized. In the 60s, it was decided that it would be better and more dignified for the mentally ill to be left to lead "normal" lives (despite, of course, the obvious fact that many cannot, which is why they were institutionalized in the first place.)
Posted on 4/18/19 at 1:56 pm to lewis and herschel
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That said longterm homelessness is a choice as there are mountains of resources for them.
And if there is one thing that mentally ill people are known for, it's their ability to make good decisions. Oh, wait....
Posted on 4/18/19 at 3:11 pm to FaCubeItches
quote:Ding ding ding. We took a lot of people, many of whom aren’t capable of being responsible for themselves due to underlying psychiatric issues, and basically told them to go lead normal lives. And are surprised when it doesn’t work.
Yep. Many were people who, prior to the 1960s, would have been institutionalized. In the 60s, it was decided that it would be better and more dignified for the mentally ill to be left to lead "normal" lives (despite, of course, the obvious fact that many cannot, which is why they were institutionalized in the first place.)
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:34 pm to TMDawg
First of all...let me be clear I’m not knocking Savannah as it’s probably my favorite city in the south.
Secondly, I’m as conservative as it gets but we really screwed up when we cut funding for the mentally ill and basically turned a lot of these folks out on the street. That’s just wrong.
As far as the millennial nomad culture. Hey...live your life how you want...just don’t turn our parks into your campground and bathroom.
Secondly, I’m as conservative as it gets but we really screwed up when we cut funding for the mentally ill and basically turned a lot of these folks out on the street. That’s just wrong.
As far as the millennial nomad culture. Hey...live your life how you want...just don’t turn our parks into your campground and bathroom.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:01 am to SquatchDawg
And there's your answer. Mental illness. My brother worked for tidelands during the 1990s when there were funds to help these folks. Savannah has top notch facilities to accommodate the homeless, but this does not solve the problem. Ireland's tried to help integrate the homeless into society, get them meds, jobs, etc. The well meaning homeless shelters on the I the other hand made savannah a "travel destination" for the homeless. Mild winter, great shelters. Ireland's was refunded and now you have this.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:03 am to tybeebomb
Oh, and Charleston will arrest you if you are homeless while in their Disneyland of a downyown. Nice people
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:20 am to LSUHobNailBoot
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Maybe its always been this way but Athens seems to be getting bad. The intersection by Wuxtry seems to be the main area. We were at Mellow Mushroom with some friends and a homeless person actually came into the restaurant waiting to ask us for money. He tried to talk to my neighbors 13 year old son trying to strike up the "Hey young man you look like you could play for the Dogs one day" blah blah. Then started his money pitch. I almost got into a little scrap with him when i told him to step away and not talk to him. He got pissy and walked out. You cannot go downtown anymore without getting several asking you for money...
While I agree homeless in Athens are an issue and annoying and I don't doubt your story about the guy coming in, but your characterization of this isn't my experience. I'd like the homeless to move on as much as you but I walk through that square every day and maybe a couple of times a year someone asks for money. To be fair to you maybe they recognize me as a local and think you are a tourist.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:43 am to athens-ga
Athens-ga fair point and maybe that is possible. I am downtown at least 2-3 days a week for various reasons but that is possible I guess. he didnt come to our table so I should clarify. We were waiting by the "wait to be seated" stand and he came into that little foyer there between Mellow and Taqueria.
As for the tourist thing. Again maybe possible but my neighbors son had an Oconee Middle school shirt on and I had a UGA softball shirt on.
My wife and kid where down there earlier this week and actually and were asked a few times. Actually giving two of them some money. She is not the conflict type. She is the type is someone comes to the door its easier to buy what they are selling to get them to leave than say no...
It was just a lady and her 13 year daughter shopping at Urban outfitters. Again possible they were mistaken as tourists. I dont know how I would avoid that if jeans a t-shirt and a hat make me look like a tourist.
Again I love Athens. We love everything about it. I will continue to go downtown many times a week for shopping, dinner, cookies at Insomnia you name it.
But to me it does seem like a problem.
But that is just one mans perspective.
As for the tourist thing. Again maybe possible but my neighbors son had an Oconee Middle school shirt on and I had a UGA softball shirt on.
My wife and kid where down there earlier this week and actually and were asked a few times. Actually giving two of them some money. She is not the conflict type. She is the type is someone comes to the door its easier to buy what they are selling to get them to leave than say no...
It was just a lady and her 13 year daughter shopping at Urban outfitters. Again possible they were mistaken as tourists. I dont know how I would avoid that if jeans a t-shirt and a hat make me look like a tourist.
Again I love Athens. We love everything about it. I will continue to go downtown many times a week for shopping, dinner, cookies at Insomnia you name it.
But to me it does seem like a problem.
But that is just one mans perspective.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:45 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
Athens wouldn't be Athens without homeless people outside Wuxtry with at least one puppy. And the guitar man on Broad. Stop trying to take away our identity you carpet bagging son of a bitch.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:18 pm to SquatchDawg
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we were more surprised at the lack of homeless in Charleston as contrast - but there aren’t many open areas in the historic districts and there’s a lot of money there. They probably police that pretty aggressively.
People got fed up. Downtown Camp was shut down. Folks bussed out. Laws were passed and are enforced. Haven’t seen any in a long time.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:03 pm to deeprig9
That made me laugh Deeprig
Well done brother
Well done brother
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:45 pm to SquatchDawg
Born and raised there. They were probably rich SCAD kids. When they first started that school back in the 80's we used to call them Savannah Concrete and Asphalt Divers because they lived in those old run down places downtown (which are now remodeled and cost a million bucks) and would sit on the roof, burn one, and play music only to cause the whole damned thing to collapse. It killed a few of the students there. The tuition at that school is unbelievably high so it's not like they have too look like they're homeless they have a definite affinity for the attire and lifestyle of homeless people. However, since I haven't lived there in 20 years, they just might be homeless people 
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