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re: The stupid Minnesota Vikings picked up Tyler Catilinas 3 year $1.6M Deal

Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:57 pm to
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Yes, I watched him and if you recall I stated he was not the bad player he was being made out to be by the football experts on this very website


Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:39 pm to
Can I get a roll call of how many people think he couldn’t make a NFL roster?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63879 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:45 pm to
I thought he sucked because of penalties. If that counts, then chalk me up.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25565 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:11 pm to
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Can I get a roll call of how many people think he couldn’t make a NFL roster?


Not without 2 injuries ahead of him. I'm here.

I said he wasn't an NFL tackle.

Regardless of how he made the squad, he is an NFL player. Nothing can take that away from him.

You are in his corner. Does he make the nfl squad this year with the Vikings? Get cut? Or put on the practice squad?

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27295 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:48 pm to
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Can I get a roll call of how many people think he couldn’t make a NFL roster?


I was actually the 1st person to post on here after he made the Skins roster in '16.Catalina caught tons of underserved shite in '16.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:02 pm to
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I was actually the 1st person to post on here after he made the Skins roster in '16.Catalina caught tons of underserved shite in '16.

Of course you caught shite for saying on here that Catalina signed with the skins in '16.

He was at UGA in '16.

That would make you a dumbass for posting such nonsense. Hell... 3 years later and you still haven't figured out why you are catching shite.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32807 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:30 pm to
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Can I get a roll call of how many people think he couldn’t make a NFL roster?


Do you recall having a discussion about if he could make a roster as a guard? Because I don’t.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:04 am to
You were in the “ he didn’t belong in the SEC “ camp, then you changed the narrative when the evidence proved you glaringly wrong. Woman do that all the time, so it is understandable. I forgive you.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27295 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:38 am to
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That would make you a dumbass for posting such nonsense. Hell... 3 years later and you still haven't figured out why you are catching shite.


Aren't you cute.

GFY you low life POS.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 6:42 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27295 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:02 am to
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Of course you caught shite for saying on here


What? I said
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.Catalina caught tons of underserved shite
I caught no shite when I posted in '17 (feel better you anal retentive prick)

Why would I?

This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 7:09 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:37 am to
A lot of things contributed to Catalina having a bad year in 2016. He (obviously) was playing out of position. new coaches did not have time to correctly identify the best position. Players getting used to new offensive schemes. It was just a bad thing all around.

Obviously Catalina could have played well in the SEC.
It is an admission everybody should be making now. Georgia fans tend to throw players under the bus and turn on them when things are not going well. Hopefully this is a wake up call that people on this board are not always right in their evaluations. Some people have a hard time admitting they can be wrong....but crap....coaches, scouts and NFL advisors are wrong sometimes.

Why so many people want to go crazy over this is crazy.
People who said Catalina was not SEC worthy and said that Georgia was awful because we took a graduate transfer from Rhode Island were wrong.

It's crazy to deny this and lessens credibility to argue differently.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25565 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:47 am to
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Obviously Catalina could have played well in the SEC.


But he didn't

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Hopefully this is a wake up call that people on this board are not always right in their evaluations. Some people have a hard time admitting they can be wrong....but crap....coaches, scouts and NFL advisors are wrong sometimes.


I dont think the evaluations on Catalina were wrong. Let's be factually correct. Most didn't say he sucks. He was below average. He played because no one was better (which says more about the rest of the team). After Catalina and Wynn, the next 2 tackles to start were true freshmen in 2017 (again... an indictment on the depth behind Catalina).

I said that he was not an NFL tackle. I didn't think he was an NFL guard either, but he was obviously big enough for NFL guard and obviously not athletic enough for NFL tackle).
I was wrong that he wasn't NFL caliber.
But let's keep it real. He was a practice squad player who got an NFL contract because 2 NFL players ahead of him got injured. When one of them healed, he lost that spot on the depth chart.

When he had his second attempt at earning a spot on a roster out of camp, he got hurt and was injured the entire year.

This is his third year trying to make a team out of camp. 0-2. And I'm asking... no one has replied. Will he make the team or the practice squad? His last team let him go.

Who has the stones to answer? Wheres Peter?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25565 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:49 am to
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People who said Catalina was not SEC worthy and said that Georgia was awful because we took a graduate transfer from Rhode Island were wrong.


We weren't wrong. Why were we wrong? The best tackle behind Catalina was Wynn (our guard). The best tackles behind that were not even on the team, yet.

That is the definition of awful.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32807 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:01 am to
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You were in the “ he didn’t belong in the SEC “ camp, then you changed the narrative when the evidence proved you glaringly wrong.


So the answer is no. That specific discussion never happened to your recollection either.

Due to some weird insecurity, You are making shite up as many Crazy woman do. Same thing you did about his “well above minimum salary” bullshite, but you just hoped no one knew more than you about nfl contracts.

If I was in any camp, I was in the “he struggled at LT at uga” camp. There has never been any evidence, much less glaring, that such a take was wrong.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 9:03 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:08 am to
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But he didn't


Because he was out of position. Is that his fault? maybe. I've read some reports that said he came to UGA because he wanted to play OT, but in the end it is the coaches decision. But, my comment was aimed at people that said he was not SEC worthy. he obviously was.

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Most didn't say he sucks.

On the contrary, the people my post was directed at most certainly did say he sucked.

If you were not one that said he was not capable of playing in the SEC, then why are you offended? My post obviously was not aimed at you.

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But let's keep it real. He was a practice squad player who got an NFL contract because 2 NFL players ahead of him got injured. When one of them healed, he lost that spot on the depth chart.

That is immaterial. He is on the roster with a NFL contract, and moved into a starting role for awhile. The average NFL career is something like 3.3 years. He is entering his third year.

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And I'm asking... no one has replied. Will he make the team or the practice squad?

How are we supposed to know this? I do know one thing, though. He was released and picked up within a day.

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Who has the stones to answer? Wheres Peter?




How can anybody say if a player is going to make a roster? I've seen very good players get traded and cut based on a lot of issues. Attitude, contract, talent....tons of issues. Nobody can say if Catalina will or will not make the roster. Some said he would not make his first roster....until he did. And the second roster as well. I mean, seriously...are you willing to say he will NOT make the roster?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:10 am to
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We weren't wrong. Why were we wrong?

Because he is a NFL talent?

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That is the definition of awful.

So a guy with enough talent to make an NFL roster is the definition of awful?
You are acting like it is an indictment on Catalina, when the problem is we were playing him out of position and didn't have anybody better than him.

That is more an indictment on Richt for not having someone better on the roster.

This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:13 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25565 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:20 am to
Slow down and reread your own post, dawglife.

UGA's roster management and talent at OL was awful. UGA was awful.

I concur that Catalina is an NFL player (NFL talent? Seriously?).
I also say that he is an NFL player for the sole purpose of 2 players ahead of him getting injured.

Prove me wrong.

Will he get an NFL roster spot out of camp? Or go 0-3?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25565 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:29 am to
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I mean, seriously...are you willing to say he will NOT make the roster?


Yes. I hope he does. But he isnt the type of "NFL talent" to hold down that spot without help of injuries.

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If you were not one that said he was not capable of playing in the SEC, then why are you offended? My post obviously was not aimed at you


Where did I say I was offended? Someone else brings up Catalina with a revisionist history that he was good. I input a counter opinion with facts. It is just a message board.

He was a "SEC talent" in the same fashion that he is an "NFL talent". With any combination of Wynn/Thomas/Wilson/Mayes on the team, I argue that Catalina rides the pine and isnt an SEC talent any longer. Not in any meaningful snaps.

Kenarious Gates started as a true freshman. Is he like Cade Mayes? Absolutely not. Playing because there is no one else does not validate your quality. Gates got starts all 4 years, and all 4 years he got pulled as the starter because he was struggling.

Catalina is the luckiest OL ever in terms of playing time. Talk about the right place at the right time (UGA and Washington). I'm happy for him. "Free agency" works and it worked for UGA (he was the best we had available. I dont doubt that for a second).
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:37 am to
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UGA's roster management and talent at OL was awful. UGA was awful.

That is exactly what I was saying.

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I concur that Catalina is an NFL player (NFL talent? Seriously?).
The very definition of playing in the NFL is NFL talent, is it not? NFL talent=playing in the NFL.

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Will he get an NFL roster spot out of camp? Or go 0-3?




He had a roster spot. You cannot play a down in the NFL unless you are on the roster. Rosters are fluid, though. They change based on a lot of issues. To assume that a player that does not make the initial roster is not a NFL talent is ludicrous. If you don't believe me ask Kurt Warner.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:41 am to
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Yes. I hope he does. But he isnt the type of "NFL talent" to hold down that spot without help of injuries.


Neither was Kurt Warner initially.

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Where did I say I was offended? Someone else brings up Catalina with a revisionist history that he was good. I input a counter opinion with facts. It is just a message board.
Well, you keep arguing that catalina was not good. I keep telling you he had the talent but was played out of position. Shall I link you to stories saying that NFL scouts said catalina and Pyke were NFL guards thatw er eplaying out of position?

LINK

ATHENS — Here’s one possible reason Georgia struggled so much on offense last season: It had guards playing tackle.

At least that seems to be the case based on the projections of NFL scouts. The Bulldogs’ starting left tackle last season, Tyler Catalina, and starting right tackle, Greg Pyke, both say they likely will play guard on the next level. That’s not to say that these guys were bad offensive linemen. Far from it. Both of them are exceptional young men, were Georgia’s best options at each position and gave their best for the Bulldogs.
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