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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:13 pm to WG_Dawg
Because non-QBs are less likely to complete the pass. Rodrigo missed an easy toss for a touchdown earlier in the year. Your memory must be failing you.
You don't seem to understand the concept of what a quarterback does.
He throws he ball to a receiver. When it is man coverage, you can throw the receiver open. This is pretty easy for someone who throws the football every day of his life. Deandre swift against a linebacker is a mismatch. You can tell the linebacker that you are going to throw the ball to deandre. The linebacker gave Deandre a free release off the line and that alone should have won us the play even if they knew in advance who we were throwing the ball to. A corner route should have been a completion or pass interference. Either give us what we wanted.
You don't seem to understand the concept of what a quarterback does.
He throws he ball to a receiver. When it is man coverage, you can throw the receiver open. This is pretty easy for someone who throws the football every day of his life. Deandre swift against a linebacker is a mismatch. You can tell the linebacker that you are going to throw the ball to deandre. The linebacker gave Deandre a free release off the line and that alone should have won us the play even if they knew in advance who we were throwing the ball to. A corner route should have been a completion or pass interference. Either give us what we wanted.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:26 pm to WG_Dawg
WG -
I appreciate your analysis on this. Thanks for the videos. It was the same exact formation except Fields gives it away. He also had open guys if he had just looked.
This supports my feelings on Fields that I have kept mostly quiet about, I don't think we missed on Fields at all. I think we are going to be just fine going forward at QB. He is going to ride the bench at tOSU and be relegated to mop up duty etc. behind Tate Martell.
Only mistake CKS/CJC made on this was bringing Fields in. The play could have been there. Sneaky as hell for CKS to remember it and have it ready, just didn't select the right personnel to run it.
Which leads to my other point. Everybody touting Fields as being All World did not see an ounce of meaningful practice from which decisions like who will start are made. CKS did. Every single minute. He knew who the better choice was at QB. But I feel he played to Fields and his family wanting PT and it blew up on him. He should have given him absolutely no PT imho.
CKS will not make this mistake twice. No 19 year old kid should be able to hold an entire program hostage. I'm glad to see him go.
Once again thanks for the breakdown.
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I appreciate your analysis on this. Thanks for the videos. It was the same exact formation except Fields gives it away. He also had open guys if he had just looked.
This supports my feelings on Fields that I have kept mostly quiet about, I don't think we missed on Fields at all. I think we are going to be just fine going forward at QB. He is going to ride the bench at tOSU and be relegated to mop up duty etc. behind Tate Martell.
Only mistake CKS/CJC made on this was bringing Fields in. The play could have been there. Sneaky as hell for CKS to remember it and have it ready, just didn't select the right personnel to run it.
Which leads to my other point. Everybody touting Fields as being All World did not see an ounce of meaningful practice from which decisions like who will start are made. CKS did. Every single minute. He knew who the better choice was at QB. But I feel he played to Fields and his family wanting PT and it blew up on him. He should have given him absolutely no PT imho.
CKS will not make this mistake twice. No 19 year old kid should be able to hold an entire program hostage. I'm glad to see him go.
Once again thanks for the breakdown.
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:31 pm to SthGADawg
Th 2012 play, the receiver ran a seam route. This fake had a 3 man crossing route on the right and an option thing happening to the left. They also left the DE on the right side unblocked, which makes no sense if the action is faking left and going back to the right.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:01 pm to meansonny
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Fields was on the field because he is a passer by trade
Exactly why he shouldn’t have been there. That made the fake obvious.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:04 pm to djsdawg
LOL
You make it sound like we can only pass the ball when it is a fake.
The play should be successful because it was thrown by a QB to our best player on the field against man coverage from a linebacker. The eye candy of fake or no fake shouldn't have mattered. The best that the linebacker could do would have been to hold Swift and draw the flag.
You make it sound like we can only pass the ball when it is a fake.
The play should be successful because it was thrown by a QB to our best player on the field against man coverage from a linebacker. The eye candy of fake or no fake shouldn't have mattered. The best that the linebacker could do would have been to hold Swift and draw the flag.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:15 pm to meansonny
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meansonny
by your logic, any fake FG pass we ever attempt we should line the QB up instead of a kicker and snap it direclty to him. I mean sure the defense will clearly know what we're doing, but I mean it's the QB's job to throw right?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:20 pm to SthGADawg
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He is going to ride the bench at tOSU and be relegated to mop up duty etc. behind Tate Martell.
I am pretty much in agreement with everything else you said, but this is just wrong. You seriously believe that Tate Martell can keep Fields on the bench? Martell is no Fromm. Not gonna happen.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:43 pm to WG_Dawg
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any fake FG pass
When a big play fails, the first thing out of the fans mouth/keyboard is, "why didn't we put such an important play in our best player's hands?"
Whether the best player us Gurley, Sony, AJ Green. It never fails.
I won't speak about every fake. But that play in the SECCG had the ball to be thrown by our 5 star QB to our best player.
I can live and die by that sword.
And for the record... punting would not have changed anything other than the amount of time on the clock before we got the ball back. Our only hope of winning was a fumbled punt return or finding a way to get the 1st down. We were gassed. And our personnel was outclassed on the field (i.e. Nickel corner).
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:48 pm to meansonny
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The play should be successful because it was thrown by a QB to our best player on the field against man coverage from a linebacker.
It can't be successful if Fields doesn't throw the ball. His decision to tuck and run is what doomed the play. I think Fields had already decided he was leaving and his decision was either "F*ck you all" or "Here's what I will do for my next team."
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:48 pm to meansonny
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play should be successful because it was thrown by a QB to our best player on the field against man coverage from a linebacker. The eye candy of fake or no fake shouldn't have mattered. The best that the linebacker could do would have been to hold Swift and draw the flag.
Fakes are successful mainly because of the element of surprise. That was the difference between 2012 and 2018.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:53 pm to AlaCowboy
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His decision to tuck and run is what doomed the play.
No one was open, and he had limited time due to pressure.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:27 pm to djsdawg
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No one was open, and he had limited time due to pressure.
Swift had position against his linebacker in man coverage.
The 2 gunners and defenders on the outside had a lot of bodies in the area. But you throw the ball. Swift was open and a ball in stride would have gone a long way (the defenders over the gunners were flowing the opposite direction)
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:22 pm to meansonny
You seem to be ignoring the importance of the surprise factor, which led to the intense pressure coming from #33, since he was ready for the fake. Maybe he was open, but Swift was also 5 yards short of the 1st down marker, and facing the LB.
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