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FinleyStreet
Georgia Fan
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
6235 posts

Stone Mountain facade
At what point are they going to blast the generals off the side of that rock? You know it's coming....


claydawg09
Georgia Fan
Conyers
Member since Sep 2013
592 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
I read somewhere that there was some legal jargon somewhere that said if that happened then the ownership rights automatically shifted back to the original owners who were recognized klan members.

A. I have no idea if that’s true
B. Their current decendants may not be klan members so it may not matter
C. I’m not in favor of the removal of such things.


FinleyStreet
Georgia Fan
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
6235 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
Looks like you are correct.

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(c) Any other provision of law notwithstanding, the memorial to the heroes of the Confederate States of America graven upon the face of Stone Mountain shall never be altered, removed, concealed, or obscured in any fashion and shall be preserved and protected for all time as a tribute to the bravery and heroism of the citizens of this state who suffered and died in their cause.


Wonder how hard it would be to change the law around it.


lewis and herschel
Georgia Fan
Member since Nov 2009
4589 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
It's all just a grand facade. It's all been a lie.


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chillmonster
Georgia Fan
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
2895 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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Wonder how hard it would be to change the law around it.



They'll never change the law, but I'll be shocked if the monument lasts another generation.

As times change so do people and so does the world. In 40 years there will be something the kids out here will disagree with their grandkids about. I don't know what it is, but it sure as hell won't be Confederate monuments.
This post was edited on 6/20 at 6:12 pm


RealDawg
Georgia Fan
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
1202 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
The majority of daily users of the park are now Black. I think the park had a Black GM for a while.


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King of Cloverhurst
Georgia Fan
Johns Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2016
298 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
I'll set the over under at Jan 1, 2022... and I'd take the under right now.


AirbusDawg
Georgia Fan
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
550 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
I agree, the carvings will not last another 5 years.


lewis and herschel
Georgia Fan
Member since Nov 2009
4589 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
Same man carved Rushmore, time to blow it up too.


Dawg4Life47
Georgia Fan
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
2890 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
Only when the state decides its not a money maker.

The allure of Stone Mountain is actually seeing what was chilled in that large piece of granite.

You sand blast it and what is there to stare at? One large rock?


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djsdawg
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Member since Apr 2015
19413 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
They would chisel something new into it.


FinleyStreet
Georgia Fan
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
6235 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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They would chisel something new into it.


MLK, Herschel Walker, and Andre 3000


dcbl
USA Fan
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
23216 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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Same man carved Rushmore, time to blow it up too.
don't think it's not coming

Francis Scott Key and Useless Assed Grant had statues toppled this last week...


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dcbl
USA Fan
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
23216 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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Herschel Walker
is a great man, a damn good Dawg and a credit to the University of Georgia

and speaks to advocate for decency and common sense

someone like that won't be honored by the mob that is running roughshod over America right now


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dcbl
USA Fan
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
23216 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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Wonder how hard it would be to change the law around it.
can't change the law, but they CAN push for imminent domain

seems that would be their only option

personally, I would love to see the descendants of the original owners take ownership


agentoranj1990
Georgia Fan
Mableton
Member since Oct 2016
191 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
I assume the laws can be overturned that protect the Stone mountain carving. Still where are they going to justify and come up with the millions of dollars it will take to remove it? They really should have left that mountain alone and never put any carving on it.


dcbl
USA Fan
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
23216 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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I assume the laws can be overturned that protect the Stone mountain carving
not really, the land was bequeathed to the state under certain conditions

if those conditions are not met, ownership reverts back

the only legal way I can see 8s a declaration of imminent domain

having said that, the left has demonstrated that they do not care about the law


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lambertdawg
Georgia Fan
South Forsyth County
Member since Sep 2012
559 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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ownership rights automatically shifted back to the original owners

I am a descendant of the original owners, the Beauchamps. I hope this happens!


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Gtmodawg
Georgia Fan
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
1424 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
Memorials to the confederacy are about as silly as anything in the world can get....they have nothing at all to do with southern heritage as most southerners did not want to seceded and were very happy simply being Americans and wouldn't have anything to do with a bunch of traitors if they weren't forced to do so at gun point. There was some support for the effort initially but it failed miserably shortly after the beginning of hostilities....

Having said that I don't see the difference in pulling statutes down and burning books in the square....no one should destroy a work of art....art can be offensive....as can humans....that doesn't make it OK to destroy something an artist created, even if almost EVERYONE agrees it is offensive...because there is nothing that could be more offensive that destroying art in a public manner as a political statement. Most of the monuments to the confederacy were placed in the last 70 years or so....they don't represent anything other than southerners love of a lost cause....but they are works of art which should be protected and studied and housed somewhere that people who enjoy such art can do so without ridicule or persecution.....what the protestors is doing is burning books in the town square....no difference as I can see it....


Lucius Clay
Georgia Fan
Member since Sep 2012
2617 posts

re: Stone Mountain facade
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southerners did not want to seceded and were very happy simply being Americans


Not so sure about this. In the America of the 1860s, people tended to identify very strongly with their state. Southerners in areas economically reliant on slavery were certainly not keen on going along with what they perceived as imposition of northern abolitionism. Definitely not the landowners.

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Having said that I don't see the difference in pulling statutes down and burning books in the square....no one should destroy a work of art....art can be offensive....as can humans


Can't argue with that. If you can only be honored with a statue if you're "woke," we've got a big problem...not going to be any statues of Founding Fathers, that's for sure.

Maybe some statues can be used for teaching purposes?

That said, if someone's claim to fame was being a Klan Imperial Wizard (Nathan Bedford Forest anyone?), maybe we move their statue to a museum of famous racists.


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