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re: Rumors around Pickens, JTD, etc.

Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:17 am to
Americus you’re
My hero
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:21 am to
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He does have a limp

Video of limp from sidelines Saturday
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 10:22 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:50 am to
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It's as if you are implying that Kirby rested on his laurels with Bennett and Mathis, when in fact he went out and got the #1 and #2 QB's in the transfer portal and signed Carson Beck.

And apparently all of the options suck and/or quit, or he just doesn’t realize that Beck or Daniels are actually good, which is probably worse.

We’re either struggling to evaluate (in recruiting or on our own roster) or develop. It can’t be neither.
Posted by RedPants
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:07 am to
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Saw another thread that JTD is not expected to stay in Athens


False

Americus, what's the deal with JT then? Is he really still too hobbled to play?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:09 am to
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We’re either struggling to evaluate (in recruiting or on our own roster) or develop. It can’t be neither.


Can’t successfully recruit elite QBs right before they enroll. That’s not how it works.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:11 am to
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Can’t successfully recruit elite QBs right before they enroll. That’s not how it works.


Who said anything about elite? At this point, we would settle for even borderline competent.
Posted by AmericusDawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:20 am to
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Americus, what's the deal with JT then? Is he really still too hobbled to play?


He could play, that's why he has traveled.
He hasn't practiced very well, that's why he's 3rd on the depth chart.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:23 am to
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He hasn't practiced very well, that's why he's 3rd on the depth chart.

I simply do not believe that he has practiced so poorly that we would actually expect him to play worse than what we are currently trotting out there.

His freshman year USC film, while not overwhelming, is way, way better than the QB play we currently have.
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:23 am to
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He hasn't practiced very well
I'd take the guy who hasn't practiced well vs. the guys who have proven not to play well in the games
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:24 am to
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I simply do not believe that he has practiced so poorly that we would actually expect him to play worse than what we are currently trotting out there.

His freshman year USC film, while not overwhelming, is way, way better than the QB play we currently have.
Yep. it makes ZERO sense.

Unless.. Daniels is actually ready to play and Kirby is afraid of looking foolish if he looks awesome right off the bat. Then we have a whole other problem.

Either way, this scenario makes Kirby look like an absolute buffoon.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:26 am
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:29 am to
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way, this scenario makes Kirby look like an absolute buffoon.



Only to an idiot who can’t read between the lines.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:33 am to
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Who said anything about elite? At this point, we would settle for even borderline competent.



You are asking for good EE QB prospects but refusing to accept that good EE QB prospects typically don’t exist at the last minute.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:40 am to
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You are asking for good EE QB prospects but refusing to accept that good EE QB prospects typically don’t exist at the last minute.

No, I’m not. I’m asking for average ones, which are very much available at the last minute.

This team would kill for a Hutson Mason or Joe Cox right now.

Nevermind that the last minute timeline is itself a sign of a failure to manage the QB room effectively.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:42 am
Posted by jodeaux
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:43 am to
Let's bring CMR back to coach QB's and call plays. Say what you want about his record but the man is one of the greatest college QB coaches around.
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:45 am to
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Only to an idiot who can’t read between the lines.
What are we supposed to be reading?

If we believe that Kirby isn't a liar, then we suppose either:

A. 5-star Daniels is performing so bad in practice under Kirby and Monken's coaching and development that he can't beat our clearly underwhelming walk-on or the borderline 3 star QB who wouldn't start for any other P5 team.

Or

B. Kirby can't see how bad Bennett and DWan are holding us back and/or doesn't think that giving a healthy Daniels a shot is warranted.

Either one is asinine.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:47 am to
Nothing available besides projects and undersized guys that late in the calendar.

You are confusing transfer portal with effective management. Times have changed.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:48 am to
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I simply do not believe that he has practiced so poorly that we would actually expect him to play worse than what we are currently trotting out there.


Did you think the same thing about Mathis last week? How did that work out?
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:49 am to
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Unless.. Daniels is actually ready to play and Kirby is afraid of looking foolish if he looks awesome right off the bat. Then we have a whole other problem


Holy shite.

Did your mother have any children that lived?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:50 am to
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What are we supposed to be reading?


The kid is hurt. Has a limp. He isn’t good without a knee. Kirby isn’t gonna throw him under the bus.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:50 am to
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Nothing available besides projects and undersized guys that late in the calendar.

We should be able to find a project or undersized guy that can play at a higher level after a year in the system (which both Mathis and Bennett have had). The bar is pretty fricking low.
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You are confusing transfer portal with effective management. Times have changed.

Other teams seem to be getting by OK.
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