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re: Perception is a funny thing,

Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:50 pm to
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4,872 yards. 47 TDs. 7 picks.

2,862 yards. 29 TDs. 7 picks.


2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.


Yep. That difference isn’t “perception”. Thankfully our guy was better on Monday.
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
362 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:50 pm to
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4,872 yards. 47 TDs. 7 picks.

2,862 yards. 29 TDs. 7 picks.


2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.


Yeah, I was going to say. Also, there were a couple of games, Auburn comes to mind, where he had to lead his team on winning drives late in the game.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:51 pm to
Brice had no choice, bamas defense sucked and they had no run game...

Stet already had his feet up by half of many games.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:53 pm to
Stet was so good that he lead his team on game winning drive in the 1 st qtr....

Except for against Brices team when he did it to give us a 1 point lead late in the fourth....

While BY threw an int. Waawoo....
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
362 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:54 pm to
Also, just want to say that that Stetson did great for us and I'm very proud of him and specifically how he played in the CFP title game. I just think Young was really good and asked to do more because Bama's D wasnt as good as they usually are or ad Georgia's. Yes, he did have great talent but great WRs cant catch bad passes.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:57 pm to
Actually, making their qb look good is exactly what first round draft picks do.

They catch everything thrown at them...
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6945 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:18 pm to
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4,872 yards. 47 TDs. 7 picks.


Illogical comparison. Had Bennett thrown as many passes as Young HAD TO THROW, he would have had 3660 yards and 57 TDs, with 14 ints.
Bennett threw when he needed to. The run game did the rest.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6945 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:32 pm to
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Auburn comes to mind, where he had to lead his team on winning drives late in the game.


Let's change that a little:
Alabama comes to mind, where Stet had to lead his team on winning drives late in the game to win the National Championship.
Where's Bryce Young in that statement? He's taking an early shower during the awards ceremony.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:36 pm to
Back to my initial point, the Stats that account for scale like QBR, average per attempt, and Effienceny all go to Stet.

Truth is, he was damn good at taking care of the ball with the exception of the first bama game.

I am not saying he is better than young though i am not as enamored as you guys with a man crush on him. I am just saying their stats tell a story that Stet was a damn good qb for the dawgs this year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Thankfully our guy was better on Monday.


This is the key. nobody should confuse Stetson Bennett with Bryce Young. There's a reason Young was a 5*. Bennett didn't deserve some of the vitriol aimed at him, but Young is definitely the better QB.

That said, I am glad Bennett was the better QB Monday...when it counted.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:39 pm to
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Truth is, he was damn good at taking care of the ball with the exception of the first bama game.


He improved greatly over last season, no doubt. He did throw it up for grabs a few times (Florida, SECCG, in particular) But in the big game he did what was necessary. Thank goodness for him and for us.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Brice had no choice, bamas defense sucked and they had no run game...

Stet already had his feet up by half of many games.


Being in obvious passing situations more often can have some negative effects on stats.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:45 pm to
Not when you have two first rounders at wrs.... And an overall enormous talent discprepancy with 129 d 1 teams....
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42531 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:46 pm to
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dallasga6


MY MAN

Congrats on another Natty good sir.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:49 pm to
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2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.


While true....Bryce Young threw the ball 547 times
Bennett threw the ball 287 times. That had a little to do with the other statistics.

What kind of stats do you think Bennett would have had if he had thrown the ball 260 more times?

The types of offenses run by the teams mad a bit of a difference.

The two QBs should not be compared to each other for this reason.

Bryce young was right for the type of offense Alabama ran, and Stetson Bennett was right for Georgia.
Interesting side note....Alabama was decimated by injuries to their RBs all year. Had they stayed healthy, Young would not have thrown the ball nearly as much and probably would not have won the Heisman.

Taking it a step further, had their RBs stayed healthy and Alabama stayed a bit more balanced on offense our defense would have had a tougher time shutting down Bryce Young in the title game, and it might have turned out very differently.

It was just our year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:53 pm to
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Being in obvious passing situations more often can have some negative effects on stats.



Not sure they were in obvious passing situations in those games. The games were close, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were in 3rd and long a lot. I mean, maybe they were, and if so, you are correct. I think we proved that Monday night.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:03 pm to
You two alters can suck each others dicks on someone elses thread.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:06 pm to
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So usage should be ignored?


I don't think that's what he is saying at all. But let me ask you this. You brought up the difference in yards and TDs.

Do you think Young throwing the ball 260 more times than Bennett had something to do with that?

Do you think Alabama playing in more close games affected the stats at all?

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:11 pm to
Honestly, them having abetter run game would have benefitted us.

Their path to victory in sec cg was low percentage passes to high percentage wrs.

They neutralized our d by throwing over it, they could not have ran through it.

This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted by ShockTroop
Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
679 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:19 pm to
This obsession with having to prove Stetson is somehow elite is hilarious. You guys sound as bad as the “orange man bad” crew with TDS. Enjoy the moment and enjoy the win.



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