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Perception is a funny thing,
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:59 pm
Brice spent all year throwing to two 1st round draft picks in Metchie and Jameson plus has a loaded roster built with similar or better talent than us. Struggled against UF who we destroyed, Auburn who we destroyed, Arkansas who we Destroyed, and a very down lsu. Lost to a bad tamu team with a back up qb.
Yet Stet ended the year with far better stats, QBR, yard per attempt etc... Even with Stet rarely playing past the 2nd-3rd qtr.
Yet Young wins the Heisman.... People just see what they want to see.
Hell our defense can double its points allowed per game we still boat race every team in regular season with an experienced qb....
Yet Stet ended the year with far better stats, QBR, yard per attempt etc... Even with Stet rarely playing past the 2nd-3rd qtr.
Yet Young wins the Heisman.... People just see what they want to see.
Hell our defense can double its points allowed per game we still boat race every team in regular season with an experienced qb....
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:16 pm to lewis and herschel
100% agree, been trying to make this point for most of the season. Objectivity and truth make some people twitch, too many people, twitching like the hitchiker in Something About Mary when Ben Stiller brings up 6-Minute-Abs.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:21 pm to lewis and herschel
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Yet Stet ended the year with far better stats, QBR, yard per attempt etc...
I’m a Stet fan, but you’re just kind of making stuff up here.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:23 pm to Dawgsontop34
Nah, i am not, go away alter.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:25 pm to deeprig9
I think young throws a better ball. Especially intermediate. He is not much taller than Stet. saw them standing next to each other in Indy. It was close.
Does he win the Heisman without 1 and 9? Does he win if he got more pressure? He definitely wasn't as good without the two NFL receivers and he most certainly struggled when people got after him.
He is better than Stet, but the difference was not as great as the CN wanted it to be.
Does he win the Heisman without 1 and 9? Does he win if he got more pressure? He definitely wasn't as good without the two NFL receivers and he most certainly struggled when people got after him.
He is better than Stet, but the difference was not as great as the CN wanted it to be.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:26 pm to lewis and herschel
4,872 yards. 47 TDs. 7 picks.
2,862 yards. 29 TDs. 7 picks.
2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.
2,862 yards. 29 TDs. 7 picks.
2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:28 pm to lewis and herschel
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Nah, i am not, go away alter.
Outside of YPA, what stats was Stetson better at?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:31 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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4,872 yards. 47 TDs. 7 picks.
2,862 yards. 29 TDs. 7 picks.
2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.
Because our play calling took the foot off the gas in the second half of almost all our games, Stetson couldn't pad his stats the way Young had to, with so many 4th quarter games. That's where more advanced stats like YPA and QBR come into play.
Maybe we should have beat everyone by 60 instead of 30, just so Stet could get his totals up?
Go back to your favorite NFL team, college ball isn't for you.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:32 pm to lewis and herschel
While I agree that Stet deserves all the credit in the world, I would take Young 10 out of 10 times given the chance.
That said, Stet's stats were pretty darn good.
Granted he did make mistakes at inopportune times, but I think when people point out he struggled against Alabama they say it like Alabama is some scrub team.
Hat's off to Alabama. they had a lot of injuries (like us) and they went out there and improved over the course of the season. They were peaking in time for the playoffs, so it was a monumental fete for our team to beat them. We were missing a lot of players, too. Players we thought would make a huge impact.
A lot of people forget that we were also missing what many think/thought would be a first round pick in Adam Anderson. He was huge in pass rushing, something we needed badly for the SECCG and title game.
That said, Stet's stats were pretty darn good.
Granted he did make mistakes at inopportune times, but I think when people point out he struggled against Alabama they say it like Alabama is some scrub team.
Hat's off to Alabama. they had a lot of injuries (like us) and they went out there and improved over the course of the season. They were peaking in time for the playoffs, so it was a monumental fete for our team to beat them. We were missing a lot of players, too. Players we thought would make a huge impact.
A lot of people forget that we were also missing what many think/thought would be a first round pick in Adam Anderson. He was huge in pass rushing, something we needed badly for the SECCG and title game.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:33 pm to deeprig9
We could have easily piled 2-3 more tds in every game we played simply by leaving stet in the game...
Yet stet also had a better qbr and was obscenely efficient.
Yet stet also had a better qbr and was obscenely efficient.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:33 pm to deeprig9
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Because our play calling took the foot off the gas in the second half of almost all our games
I will never understand this, especially in a world where CFP impression is king.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:34 pm to lewis and herschel
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Nah, i am not, go away alter.
DOT34 is a longtime poster and contributor here, hes got 35,000+ posts. GTFO...
If you don't agree with his statement back up yours, dont just call him an alter...
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:34 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Outside of YPA, what stats was Stetson better at?
QBR also higher than Young.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:35 pm to deeprig9
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Because our play calling took the foot off the gas in the second half of almost all our games, Stetson couldn't pad his stats the way Young had to, with so many 4th quarter games. That's where more advanced stats like YPA and QBR come into play.
Maybe we should have beat everyone by 60 instead of 30, just so Stet could get his totals up?
Go back to your favorite NFL team, college ball isn't for you.
Are you really trying to tell me that Stetson Bennett is a better QB and had more impressive stats than Heisman winner Bryce Young? And I'M the one who doesn't understand college football.
Christ, man...there's being a homer and then there's whatever the frick you're doing with your claim.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:38 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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4,872 yards. 47 TDs. 7 picks.
2,862 yards. 29 TDs. 7 picks.
2000 yards and 18 extra TDs isn't exactly an inconsequential difference in performance.
Let me explain this in a way you might understand, you might need to sit down for this.
Pretend JT Daniels never lost his job.
In every game, he led the team to 30 point leads in the first half before either getting sidelined for backup reps or just handing the ball off to run clock. Therefore, JT's totals don't approach Young's. But he leads in YPA and QBR. You don't think that you, personally, would be making a case in your mind for JT to have been in the Heisman conversation?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:40 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Outside of YPA, what stats was Stetson better at?
Quarter back rating
But that's a good question. Let me go check. But we should also acknowledge that Young had to play deeper into their games than Bennett did, too. That said, I still think Young is the better QB by a lot. As a whole he protected the ball better....but in the title game Young played like Bennett in the SECCG and Bennett played like Young. It was almost surreal. let me check on the stat thing...although i do believe Young had much better stats. Alabama was pass first and we were run first. but we should also understand there was a reason for that.
I think O'Brien mismanaged their offense. They should have run more.
Young beat Benett by a lot in most categories. (Just checked) Comp % was similar.
Alabama's biggest problem was their injuries to their RBs. They were decimated.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:40 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Similar competition says yes.....
Young made the biggest mistake at the most inopportune time.
You imagine Stet throwing to two 3rd year 1st round draft picks. Hell stet didnt even play in most 4th qtrs....
frick off alters. Your eye test let you down when it mattered most.
Young made the biggest mistake at the most inopportune time.
You imagine Stet throwing to two 3rd year 1st round draft picks. Hell stet didnt even play in most 4th qtrs....
frick off alters. Your eye test let you down when it mattered most.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:45 pm to DawgsLife
Bama’s defense gave up twice as many points as our’s. They also just plum threw the ball more. It doesn’t mean Stetson was better. It just means that stats don’t tell the whole story. It’s funny that the same cünts who said Bennett would be nothing without 19 are making excuse’s for the opposing QB for losing two 1st round draft picks while being prison assaulted by our defense.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:46 pm to deeprig9
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Let me explain this in a way you might understand, you might need to sit down for this.
Pretend JT Daniels never lost his job.
In every game, he led the team to 30 point leads in the first half before either getting sidelined for backup reps or just handing the ball off to run clock. Therefore, JT's totals don't approach Young's. But he leads in YPA and QBR. You don't think that you, personally, would be making a case in your mind for JT to have been in the Heisman conversation?
So usage should be ignored?
An MLB rookie slashes .373/.415/.800 in 100ABs. Vladdy Jr slashes .311/.401/.621 in 600ABs. You think the rook is a better player because usage rate doesn't matter.
Have you looked at Stet's stats when he throws more than 20 times a game? They're not great.
Regardless, the fact you even think this is deserving of debate is laughable. Bryce Young will go 1-1 in the '23 draft and be given a starting QB in the NFL in his rookie season. Stetson Bennett will not be drafted, might sign as an undrafted FA, but will most likely live a happy life in GA without ever picking up a football again.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:49 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Brice will have a short NFL career just like Tua, fields, and Hurts... He really is too short for the nfl.
I honestly could careless about the nfl, prepping kids for it just a means to an end.
I honestly could careless about the nfl, prepping kids for it just a means to an end.
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