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re: OT: Just a reminder to vote in the most important midterms since who knows when
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:50 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:50 am to FooManChoo
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The Democrats do not deserve votes
How American of you. Every citizen regardless of ideology deserves a vote and if you think or say otherwise you are what is wrong with our country.
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 6:24 am to Hobnail
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How American of you. Every citizen regardless of ideology deserves a vote and if you think or say otherwise you are what is wrong with our country.
The SCOTUS disagrees with you in their 2000 ruling in Bush v Gore. There is no "right to vote" guaranteed in the Constitution. Don't drink the juice.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 6:48 am to fibonaccisquared
Obama had the lowest interest rates in US history and still had the slowest recovery in US history while creating more debt than every President before him. This shows that his policies actually hurt the recovery, which would have happened faster if he did nothing. Interest rates for Trump were increased more in his first year than Obama's 8 and he is beating Obama's economic numbers easily.
Paris agreement was unenforceable promises in exchange for US money. US has improved it's environmental numbers while all those other countries have worsened since it was rejected.
Manufacturing jobs are higher than any point during Obama's presidency.
Obama did indeed turn the falling Stock market around, but how? Investors hated the policies he made to make it undesirable to invest anywhere else but the stock market. He basically forced investment money into the stock market which helped keep it afloat. But without the choices of previous years it became all eggs in one basket strategy. So when the policies change under a new administration the previous one can not claim continuing credit for the positive results.if that were true then the original stock market admin. and no other, is to be credited for all subsequent positive numbers. Balderdash.
Paris agreement was unenforceable promises in exchange for US money. US has improved it's environmental numbers while all those other countries have worsened since it was rejected.
Manufacturing jobs are higher than any point during Obama's presidency.
Obama did indeed turn the falling Stock market around, but how? Investors hated the policies he made to make it undesirable to invest anywhere else but the stock market. He basically forced investment money into the stock market which helped keep it afloat. But without the choices of previous years it became all eggs in one basket strategy. So when the policies change under a new administration the previous one can not claim continuing credit for the positive results.if that were true then the original stock market admin. and no other, is to be credited for all subsequent positive numbers. Balderdash.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:36 am to VoxDawg
Please find the section of the ruling that states "if someone disagrees with someone else's politics, the offending party does not deserve the right to vote". I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:48 am to VoxDawg
What the literal frick!
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:49 am to FlexDawg
I will be voting (R) all the way down my ballot.
I refuse to even consider anyone who aligns themselves with the current Democrat party. Their affiliation with BLM, pussy hats, and socialist ideals are not what I myself will support in any way.
Somebody asked why Kemp?
He says he will decrease regulations allowing businesses to flourish.
He is a strong 2nd amendment supporter.
That's plenty enough for me.
I will also never ever vote for someone who supports blasting Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson off the side of a mountain....and who has been seen burning the official state flag in public. Whether you agreed with the design or not...it was still the symbol of the state she is now trying to lead as Governor.
I refuse to even consider anyone who aligns themselves with the current Democrat party. Their affiliation with BLM, pussy hats, and socialist ideals are not what I myself will support in any way.
Somebody asked why Kemp?
He says he will decrease regulations allowing businesses to flourish.
He is a strong 2nd amendment supporter.
That's plenty enough for me.
I will also never ever vote for someone who supports blasting Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson off the side of a mountain....and who has been seen burning the official state flag in public. Whether you agreed with the design or not...it was still the symbol of the state she is now trying to lead as Governor.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 8:33 am to FlexDawg
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most important midterms since who knows when
The number of times I've heard this in my time on this Earth...
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:55 am to SthGADawg
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He says he will decrease regulations allowing businesses to flourish.
Not always a good thing in the long run. That being said, I'm voting Kemp because Abrams is terrible.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:01 am to Cousin_Avi
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What the literal frick!
Show me where in the constitution where there is a right for people to vote in federal elections.
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I'll save you some time.
The government was set up so that people elect their local leaders, and those leaders vote for the federal offices.
There is no constitutional "right to vote" in federal elections in the constitution.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:43 am to Rules
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I have a choice of a socialist for a Gov or Desantis and an old fart of a Senator or Rick Scott. I'll be stopping off to early vote this Friday after work.
Same here.
You forgot to add that the socialist is currently the subject of an ethics investigation and had lied during that investigation about gifts received and taxes he didn't pay on them.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:19 pm to SthGADawg
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He says he will decrease regulations allowing businesses to flourish.
And yet, also stated he will support adding a religious freedom "regulation" that will negatively impact our economy. I'd be hard pressed to find 10B worth of regulatory improvements that he can make to offset this *one* mistake. That's presuming he doesn't make more of them that he hasn't taken a public stance on yet. He's given no concrete evidence that he has a plan to help businesses flourish, it would seem that he's just convinced you that he is because of some sound bytes and the (R) next to his name based on what you've shared thus far. At least, I have yet to see any sort of plan as to how he expects to affect positive change on the GA economy. If it's out there, PLEASE share it... I'm not joking. I'm as open of a voter as you'll ever find. But I'm also a man of math, science, and facts... don't try to feed me bullshite and expect me not to tell you it stinks.
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He is a strong 2nd amendment supporter.
What do you believe Abram's position is on 2nd amendment rights in this state? Why do people who own guns abhor the idea of stronger background checks. It shouldn't be easy to obtain a gun. It shouldn't be impossible either. There should be a simple middle ground that would help to prevent children and mentally ill individuals from obtaining weapons. Campus Carry was a pretty nonsensical bill to begin with. Outside of background checks for private sales and repealing Campus Carry, what is it about Abrams that is threatening to gun ownership as governor? I'm a gun owner, but I also recognize that owning one is a responsibility and don't have an issue with requiring stricter controls on access.
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I refuse to even consider anyone who aligns themselves with the current Democrat party. Their affiliation with BLM, pussy hats, and socialist ideals are not what I myself will support in any way.
And that is absolutely your right, but for those of us who don't have a violent opposition to either party, can see that both of them spew falsehoods, lies, and fail upwards left and right, we actually like to have some form of tangible evidence as to which candidate might be the "better" between the two. The hope is that supporters of either can point to actual basis for their vote, but more and more from hardcore (R) voters, I see what I've seen in this thread. "Anything but [D candidate]." Like holy frick, I recognize no one is going to change their opinion on party affiliation based on an internet forum, but seriously think about that and ask yourself, would you listen to yourself if someone used your same arguments to persuade you to believe as they did?
The democratic party isn't affiliated with BLM or pussy hats directly... *SOME* people, who also happen to vote (D) did those things. Just like some people who are in the KKK or believe in white power happen to vote (R). It doesn't make (R) the party of racism and "anti-minority" inherently. All of this is simply divisive vitriol planted in the minds of "NPCs" as our friend Jefferson likes to make light of. Blue NPCs are concerned about one thing, Red NPCs are concerned about another... the hope is that more and more people can find their way to the middle and stop being divided over a handful of issues that likely have a reasonable middle ground.
Unfortunately, in modern politics, going middle means no one is truly happy on either side and you get crucified by people with extremely polarizing POVs.
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and who has been seen burning the official state flag in public. Whether you agreed with the design or not...it was still the symbol of the state she is now trying to lead as Governor.
Because it wasn't offensive to you, you see it that way. The history of GA State flags is such that *that* particular flag was introduced in an era where our state legislature sought to prolong segregation era policies as long as possible... that it was still our flag 40 years later isn't something to be proud of...
It's amazing how people pick and choose the amendments they want to matter, and when they should matter. If you're a 1st amendment supporter, there is nothing wrong with a college student protesting a flag that in their mind and the minds of many people was a racist symbol approved of by our state. Whether you agree with that or not doesn't really matter... it's sort of the point of "freedom of speech". I've not been subject to racism, but I can appreciate that some have. That flag, while "just a symbol", is as you said, a "symbol of our state"...
I don't agree with whitewashing over history in the form of getting rid of Stone Mountain's faces, but faulting someone for an objectively reasonable protest in college seems disingenuous at best. If you don't support her, you can just say that... using her flag burning as a crutch as to why is laughable.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:58 pm to Hobnail
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Every citizen regardless of ideology deserves a vote and if you think or say otherwise you are what is wrong with our country.
We respectfully disagree.
- The guys who actually wrote the Constitution
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:04 pm to SthGADawg
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I refuse to even consider anyone who aligns themselves with the current Democrat party. Their affiliation with BLM, pussy hats, and socialist ideals are not what I myself will support in any way.
If only the current Republican (Trump) party was simply the common sense, moderate party of reason; this would be a great opportunity! Unfortunately, they've embraced all the direct opposites of above...No BLM but watch any Trump rally for plenty of endorsements of violence (it's okay so long as it's against journalists or liberals - especially liberals with money); no pussy hats but pussy grabbing is definitely forgiven (probably a virtue because it's seen as not being "politically correct"); no socialist ideals but perfectly okay with the the middle class schmuck getting his $1000 tax break while Jared is able to effectively pay no income taxes for years with his net worth hitting $324 mil (cause, you know, real estate depreciates).
Imagine if there was a political party that WASN'T forced to cow-tow to the extremes at either end? If only Trump had actually been the populist who couldn't be bought.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:12 pm to FaCubeItches
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- The guys who actually wrote the Constitution
Same guys who also left the details of voting rights to the states, almost all of which constructed state constitutions and voting laws that only allowed white men who owned land to vote.
So there's that.
The Constitution has amendments for a reason...and things change over the centuries. Or would you prefer that we just go status quo 1789?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:25 pm to Lucius Clay
I haven't read this thread and just skipped to the bottom. Can we get a list of candidates who want to legalize weed?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:11 pm to fibonaccisquared
Speaking of amendments....
Who voted for the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments?
13th-outlawed slavery
14th-made African Americans citizens/guaranteed equal protection under the law
15th-guaranteed African Americans the right to vote
(Hint: not Democrat’s)
Inb4 “the parties switched sides.”
When people tell me the big switch happened in the 60’s, I simply ask who and what date? They don’t know because only ONE did and that was Senator Strom Thurmond. The rest of the Dixiecrats died Democrat’s. So much for a “BIG SWITCH”.
So how did the south become conservative? Simple. As the south became less racist it became more conservative. In the 70s and 80s Whites began voting more conservative.
So why did the majority of blacks begin voting democrat if the parties didn’t switch?
Blacks began voting for democrats in the 30s because of FDRs new deal and the promise of a welfare state. Which is very attractive after a Great Depression. If you read about it: LINK you’ll see that it did more harm to blacks than good.
The below quotes from former Dem President LBJ sums up perfectly what the goal was:
Further explanation in this video of why the big switch is a lie:
LINK
Who voted for the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments?
13th-outlawed slavery
14th-made African Americans citizens/guaranteed equal protection under the law
15th-guaranteed African Americans the right to vote
(Hint: not Democrat’s)
Inb4 “the parties switched sides.”
When people tell me the big switch happened in the 60’s, I simply ask who and what date? They don’t know because only ONE did and that was Senator Strom Thurmond. The rest of the Dixiecrats died Democrat’s. So much for a “BIG SWITCH”.
So how did the south become conservative? Simple. As the south became less racist it became more conservative. In the 70s and 80s Whites began voting more conservative.
So why did the majority of blacks begin voting democrat if the parties didn’t switch?
Blacks began voting for democrats in the 30s because of FDRs new deal and the promise of a welfare state. Which is very attractive after a Great Depression. If you read about it: LINK you’ll see that it did more harm to blacks than good.
The below quotes from former Dem President LBJ sums up perfectly what the goal was:
Further explanation in this video of why the big switch is a lie:
LINK
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:43 pm to FlexDawg
Shhhhh. Everyone knows it’s those evil conservatives causing all that ruckus these days
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:58 pm to WG_Dawg
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Can we get a list of candidates who want to legalize weed?
arent you like 30 years old?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:04 pm to DawgCountry
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Everyone knows it’s those evil conservatives causing all that ruckus these days
Well at least one conservative's been keeping busy making and sending bombs in the mail to various liberals and CNN.
Oh wait...that's probably some liberal who actually did it to make it look like there are violent people on the Right.
Kind of like how the Connecticut elementary school shooting was a hoax to stir up anti-2nd amendment sentiments.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:34 pm to FlexDawg
[quote]So how did the south become conservative? Simple. As the south became less racist it became more conservative. In the 70s and 80s Whites began voting more conservative.[quote]
Somehow you've managed to leave off the entire history of violent opposition to Civil Rights, in the South but other places as well. And no mention of the "Southern Strategy" under Nixon? Or Lee Atwater in the 70s and early 80's? Hmmmm.
But there have been plenty of Democrats who were racists. Not really big news. George Wallace was a Democrat before he ran as an independent in '68.
Somehow you've managed to leave off the entire history of violent opposition to Civil Rights, in the South but other places as well. And no mention of the "Southern Strategy" under Nixon? Or Lee Atwater in the 70s and early 80's? Hmmmm.
But there have been plenty of Democrats who were racists. Not really big news. George Wallace was a Democrat before he ran as an independent in '68.
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