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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Personally, I think that Presidents get WAY too much credit (or blame) for the economy, because things run in cycles and disruptive events occur that are beyond their control.


Obama didn't bring on the recession. But despite all of his stimulus spending, he had the slowest recovery ever.

Who could have foreseen that pro business policies could have net pro business (economy) results? Oh yeah. Every conservative talk radio host
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:35 pm to
‘Too Little, Too Late’: Inside the Nation’s Worst Coronavirus Hotspot
Ninety percent of Marion federal prison inmates are sick with covid19. I guess that will result in a population of males with herd immunity.

I expect that we will learn the adult male mortality rate in the absence of adequate healthcare.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 4:02 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32926 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:52 pm to
Didn’t you hear...Obama was taking credit when the Dow was 29K+ In Feb. He’s been pretty quiet since then. Anyone doesn’t think pro business policies the last 3 years played a major role in the markets isn’t worth debating
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26271 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Anyone doesn’t think pro business policies the last 3 years played a major role in the markets isn’t worth debating


Agreed.

Makes me wonder why the politicians are so stimulus heavy at the moment.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:10 pm to
You must be referring to how the left is looking right now.

"Trump is xenophobic for stopping travel to China!"
"We must shelter because limiting interaction with others will save lives! Errrr...unless they are from China, then we must mix it up with them!"
"Go to parties, movies and parades! no harm in living our lives!"
"We must shelter! It is the only way to survive!"
"We will have 250,000 deaths!And it is all Trumps fault!"
"We will have 150,000 deaths, and it's all Trumps fault!"
"We will have 100,000 deaths! Trump is awful!"
"We will have fewer than 100,00 deaths! It is all Trumps fault!"
"We will have fewer than 100,000 deaths! Thank goodness our Democrat Governors told everyone to shelter! They saved lives!"



Great picture! You guys have twisted yourselves up in knots and contradicted yourselves so much, you are not quite sure what to say because tomorrow will prove you wrong.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:15 pm to
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There seem to be some short memories or lack of knowledge about the economy. Reading some of these posts, one would think that the economy was atrocious under Obama and then Trump came in and - poof - it took off.


On the contrary. The economy beagn to slowly recover under Obama. However, many of his trade agreements and regulations drastically slowed the recovery. It was after Trump came into office and rolled bck many of Obama's regulations and got us out of some of his trade agreements that the economy took off.

Obama And The Dem's Dismal Recovery-Forbes
The Obama recovery of the last seven years remains the worst in postwar American history. Average gross domestic product (GDP) growth since the bottom of the recession in 2009 was barely above 2.1% per year. The average since 1949 is well above 4% per year during the previous 10 expansions.

But I am sure, Vox, Huffington Post and the Daily Koz can put a positive spin on it. They probably know better than a magazine dedicated to finance.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41367 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5712 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:26 am to
quote:

The Obama recovery of the last seven years remains the worst in postwar American history. Average gross domestic product (GDP) growth since the bottom of the recession in 2009 was barely above 2.1% per year. The average since 1949 is well above 4% per year during the previous 10 expansions


Dude think about this shite before you just believe people. Eliminate the first year when the economy was in tailspin and you get 2.6 annually, which is higher than the average for the current administration.

Fact: Most current economic trend numbers are either identical or even slightly worse.

It's the same economy (not a particularly amazing one for either administration), only with a balooned deficit and an imbecile president some people are just determined to like for no good reason.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 4:24 pm to
South Korea was extremely aggressive with early mass testing. They are already playing sports. Taiwan did the same.

Trump called sars-2 a democrat hoax and was constantly lying about having everything under control.

When will the Dawgs ever play again? Not 2020 for sure.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26909 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

The Obama recovery of the last seven years remains the worst in postwar American history.

A lot of that has to do with the maturity of the American economy relative to earlier periods.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26504 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Trump called sars-2 a democrat hoax and was constantly lying about having everything under control.

quote:

When will the Dawgs ever play again? Not 2020 for sure


Whiznutjob at it again. Can you just shut the frick up already? I believe Trump was the one shutting down travel with China while the Queen B---- of Democrats was dancing around in Chinatown telling everyone to come out and party....

You also said 1M would still die, so if 10% of your guess ends up being the total, wouldn't you say he did an unfrickingbelievable job and should be re-elected easily?
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41367 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 6:01 pm to
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so if 10% of your guess ends up being the total, wouldn't you say he did an unfrickingbelievable job and should be re-elected easily?


The governors get the credit for any success after trump punted responsibility.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26504 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 6:19 pm to
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after trump punted responsibility.



When did he do that? Pretty sure he was banning travel in January and getting shite on for it. Pretty sure half our deaths are in a city and state run by democrats that were amongst the last to implement sweeping changes. Pretty sure this would be 10x worse if we never stopped travel. Pretty sure the President did not delay any States asking for a State of emergency, which is what happens based on the Constitution. Pretty sure Trump declared a National State of emergency and put together a task force when 16 people in the US were infected. Pretty sure we never ran out of ventilators or PPE. Pretty sure Trump has absolutely dominated this, while getting push back from every democrat and every news agency. Pretty sure the 2 biggest democratic State governors have praised Trump multiple times. Pretty sure your level of TDS is beyond cure, so please dont harm yourself more over the next 4 years. No doubt Trump is going to MAGA right back where we were
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14534 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:10 pm to
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Pretty sure your level of TDS is beyond cure, so please dont harm yourself more over the next 4 years. No doubt Trump is going to MAGA right back where we were




That exactly what the liberal Democrats are afraid of.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:10 pm to
If 100,000 or less dies of covid here before the anniversary of our first death I'll offer to kiss Trump's arse.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 11:01 pm to
Do you realize that the federal government is paying hospitals bonuses for every Covid-19 case they report? Doctors are also being told to report any death as a Covid-19 death if the patient tests positive, whether or not Covid-19 is the primary cause of death.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:18 am to
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:36 am to
quote:

No doubt Trump is going to MAGA right back where we were


Part of the reason you have no doubt is because even if he loses the election, there's a strong chance that he will refuse to leave office. Given his fascist tendencies and repeated claims during the 2016 campaign that the system was "rigged" (until he won...and then it suddenly wasn't rigged ), I don't think this is too far-fetched.

It will be telling to see what percentage of his supporters would jump on that bandwagon too, if it played out.

This is the guy who admirers dictators and has joked multiple times about being "president for life." Many a truth is spoken in jest.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:51 am
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
401 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:39 am to
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Part of the reason you have no doubt is because even if he loses the election, there's a strong chance that he will refuse to leave office. Given his fascist tendencies and repeated claims during the 2016 campaign that the system was "rigged" (until he won...and then it suddenly wasn't rigged ?), I don't think this is too far-fetched.



It's said that you think that. It's really sad that you actually posted it for everyone to see.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:57 am to
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It's said that you think that.


I think it's very conceivable that if Trump lost, especially a close election, he would claim that millions of illegal aliens voted (exactly as he tried to do so with that fake commission, as way to explain his loss of the popular vote in 2016). Or he'll come up with something else. He's already shown that he plays very loose with the Constitution.

Can you actually imagine Donald Trump ever actually admitting that he lost -- even if he did? I can't!
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:59 am
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