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Posted on 2/22/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 5:38 pm
Do yall remember the old couple murdered in Reynolds Plantation a few years ago? They found wife’s body in the lake after a long search, I think dead husband was stabbed in home.
Did they ever catch the killer?
Did they ever catch the killer?
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 5:44 pm to deeprig9
I never heard anything.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 5:46 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:08 pm to deeprig9
TL DR-
Elderly couple in high class gated community. Man found by neighbors, decapitated. Head is never found. Wife missing. Wife turns up ten days later in lake, with two cinder blocks tied to her in failed attempt to sink.
FBI got involved, no suspects ever named, all family members polygraphed and solid alibis. No witnesses or reports of anything by close-knit neighbors, no blood in house, no murder weapons, really no leads at all. Nothing stolen from home, home not ransacked at all.
The only thing that makes sense to me is a botched hit at wrong house.
Elderly couple in high class gated community. Man found by neighbors, decapitated. Head is never found. Wife missing. Wife turns up ten days later in lake, with two cinder blocks tied to her in failed attempt to sink.
FBI got involved, no suspects ever named, all family members polygraphed and solid alibis. No witnesses or reports of anything by close-knit neighbors, no blood in house, no murder weapons, really no leads at all. Nothing stolen from home, home not ransacked at all.
The only thing that makes sense to me is a botched hit at wrong house.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:15 pm to deeprig9
Supposedly one of their sons was killed in a drug-related accident many years ago, so could be related to that.
The guy was also super-wealthy; owned a string of fast food chains or something. Maybe he screwed someone over business wise during that time.
Another story is that they were in the witness protection program to begin with and eventually got found out. Supposedly they had like zero pictures of family in their house.
These are all rumors, of course.
The guy was also super-wealthy; owned a string of fast food chains or something. Maybe he screwed someone over business wise during that time.
Another story is that they were in the witness protection program to begin with and eventually got found out. Supposedly they had like zero pictures of family in their house.
These are all rumors, of course.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:25 pm to deeprig9
The case has grown cold. Here’s a fairly recent good summary of it. LINK
A couple things of note is that a year or so after it happened they developed a person of interest and were investigating a man seen on their lawn but evidently nothing became of these leads. A later development was the gathering of the decedents’ phone records and they are being analyzed to see whether they contain any helpful information.
A couple things of note is that a year or so after it happened they developed a person of interest and were investigating a man seen on their lawn but evidently nothing became of these leads. A later development was the gathering of the decedents’ phone records and they are being analyzed to see whether they contain any helpful information.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:01 pm to FinleyStreet
Professional job.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:11 pm to FinleyStreet
He had sold off his Wendy’s franchises 20 years prior, I don’t think a disgruntled business associate would wait 20 years to unleash that kind of crazy.
Regarding the dead son (botched drug deal) that had happened ten years prior and the killer was still in jail. They gave up on that angle.
One thing I assume the FBI would have done but not necessarily released from the case file, is look at every cell phone that pinged the local tower that night, and follow up on any non-regular phones.
Assuming they did this, and turned up nothing, says it was someone local from immediate area or pros who knew better than to take their cell phones with them that night. However, a pro would have used more than two cinder blocks to sink the wife.
Also curious, why cut off husbands head but not wife’s head? Why try to sink wife body but leave husbands body at the house?
Regarding the dead son (botched drug deal) that had happened ten years prior and the killer was still in jail. They gave up on that angle.
One thing I assume the FBI would have done but not necessarily released from the case file, is look at every cell phone that pinged the local tower that night, and follow up on any non-regular phones.
Assuming they did this, and turned up nothing, says it was someone local from immediate area or pros who knew better than to take their cell phones with them that night. However, a pro would have used more than two cinder blocks to sink the wife.
Also curious, why cut off husbands head but not wife’s head? Why try to sink wife body but leave husbands body at the house?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:13 pm to deeprig9
Also as the sheriff speculated, a pro would just walk in with a gun, pop them in the head a couple times, throw gun in lake and be gone.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:29 pm to deeprig9
Also it has been released that the wife was on Ambien. What if she killed her husband and threw his head in the lake, then came to and saw what she had done, and then tried to drown herself in the lake with the cinder blocks?
They say her head had alot of signs of blunt force trauma and is the official cause of her death, but what if those are just wounds inflicted by the husband trying to defend himself?
We need Skully to take another look at the Putnam examiner’s report.
They say her head had alot of signs of blunt force trauma and is the official cause of her death, but what if those are just wounds inflicted by the husband trying to defend himself?
We need Skully to take another look at the Putnam examiner’s report.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:40 pm to deeprig9
The fact there was oddly little blood in the house, but obviously alot of blood involved in the killing would also be consistent with the wife trying to clean up, as it is stated in the case file that she meticulously maintained the cleanliness of her home.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:42 pm to deeprig9
Can any of you legal beagles search and see what the address of the house is?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:49 pm to deeprig9
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What if she killed her husband and threw his head in the lake, then came to and saw what she had done, and then tried to drown herself in the lake with the cinder blocks?
Nah, she was old, plus she would've had to get to deeper water before throwing herself in. That lake is pretty shallow.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:53 pm to FinleyStreet
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plus she would've had to get to deeper water before throwing herself in. That lake is pretty shallow.
It depends what part of the lake. They had a dock, based on photos. I have a topo map of the lake. If someone can give me the address, I can tell you how deep it is off the end of their dock. In May of 2014, the lake would have been at full pool. If not above full pool.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:00 pm to FinleyStreet
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Nah, she was old
If she still had the strength to do house chores, cook food, walk up and down stairs, then she's certainly got the strength to kill someone. She could sneak up behind him with a hammer and kill the shite out of him. And cutting his head off isn't much different than prepping the Christmas Roast every year. Especially if she's out of her mind due to the Ambien. If you have any experience with old people with mental illness, you'd know they can show surprising displays of strength.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:01 pm to deeprig9
The body was found 5 miles away in Richland creek which is fairly deep. I believe she was found in the standing timber between Great Water Marina and the Ritz Carlton Lake club area in Greene County. I believe it was one of the first houses in Great Waters coming in off of Old Phoenix Road. I worked at Reynolds Landing marina when I was in college but would knew the lake prettt good.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:05 pm to Perrydawg
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The body was found 5 miles away in Richland creek which is fairly deep. I believe she was found in the standing timber between Great Water Marina and the Ritz Carlton Lake club area in Greene County. I believe it was one of the first houses in Great Waters coming in off of Old Phoenix Road. I worked at Reynolds Landing marina when I was in college but would knew the lake prettt good.
That would be downstream in the current, correct? With the dam generating that time of year, the current would be moving pretty well, and could easily take a body 5 miles in ten days.
First we would assume the body was actually anchored to the bottom until the decomposition gasses inflated her corpse enough to pull the anchors loose, which is probably a predictable thing to pinpoint timewise for a forensic pathologist, so realistically we are looking at the body probably only actually moving over a couple days, not the full ten days. When the current is moving on Oconee, you could float something five miles in a single day easily. She was in there ten days.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:09 pm to deeprig9
it is down stream, but I believe the area the body was found is upstream from the damn. Richland Creek runs into the Oconee River. I am no means an expert, but still talk to one of the Marina Managers and was relay this information at the time they found the body. But the flow does change for whenever Wallace Dam and Plant Branch are making power. I do know that if it was a hit, they had to come by water because you can’t get into that community without the proper decals on your vehicle
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:15 pm to deeprig9
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The body was found 5 miles away in Richland creek which is fairly deep. I believe she was found in the standing timber between Great Water Marina and the Ritz Carlton Lake club area in Greene County.
Are you sure about that location? That would actually mean the body would have traveled upstream, which wouldn't be possible, in my theory.
ETA- Based on address given by Litigator, the body would flow downstream then have to float upstream another branch to get to the Ritz Carlton.
The house is on the main branch on the Oconee channel, it would have to float south to Richland Creek channel, make a left turn, then go against the current to get up toward the Ritz.
If that's indeed where the body was found, then my theory is dead.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:20 pm
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