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re: McGarity, y u no build indoor facility?

Posted on 3/3/13 at 12:31 am to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 12:31 am to
see everyone says football is played outside, yadda yadda yadda, and yea that's great and all but when that inclement weather does come it's not like our guys are braving through it. they either have to bus over to flowery branch or they cancel it or go in that tiny litte indoor thing. with as much money as this program brings in and with what everyone else is doing there is no reason georgia shouldn't keep up with th joneses.
Posted by robby1220
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 7:01 am to
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with as much money as this program brings in and with what everyone else is doing there is no reason georgia shouldn't keep up with th joneses.


^ frickin' this. Pissing contest? Damn right it is. The fact that Spurrier is getting one should end any debate about whether we need one or not.
Posted by Glory, Glory
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 8:28 am to
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UF doesn't have an indoor practice facility


Exactly, it hasn't hurt UF at all. This thread is terrible
Posted by robby1220
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:56 am to
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Exactly, it hasn't hurt UF at all. This thread is terrible


Fine... the fact that Spurrier is getting one and Florida doesn't have one yet should end any debate abouth whether we need one or not.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 10:21 am to
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The fact that Spurrier is getting one should end any debate about whether we need one or not.


Word is the SCjr one will be built out of empty Natural Light cans and preseason SEC championship trophies...

Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Exactly, it hasn't hurt UF at all. This thread is terrible


yea, and it also rains like for 5 mins in FL and it's hardly ever cold

yall can flap your gums about us not needing it but all these other programs that are run far better than ours seem to think their worth the cash and effort.

so no, not terrible thread, it's just several dumb responses, the dumbest being "we play football outside." then tell that to our coaches who cancel practice/ end it early due to weather
This post was edited on 3/3/13 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Cherokee Chinstrap
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:18 pm to
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yall can flap your gums about us not needing it but all these other programs that are run far better than ours seem to think their worth the cash and effort.


I agree, there are no disadvantages to having an indoor facility only advantages. It's not like the football team does not generate enough money for the University to be able to fund such a facility.

It could also be quite useful during July/August whenever the temperatures are retardedly high. I am not saying that we should never practice outside during the summer because you have to get acclimated at some point. However, as yall know we are good for some pretty fricked up weather in the summer months where it will be 95+ literally for weeks on end or rain every afternoon for 5 days. The fact that we could schedule practices whenever is the most beneficial to the team and not have to schedule around the weather seems like a pretty legitimate reason to have an indoor facility.
Posted by Lord of the Board
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:37 pm to
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It could also be quite useful during July/August whenever the temperatures are retardedly high.
Or during a spring practice on Saturday when it is 30 and 'snowing" on and off.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 4:04 pm to
There really isn't a good argument against it. You can say we don't need it and Florida doesn't have one but that's not how this works. Look at what Ole Miss and Alabama and now Auburn have in ipf's and tell me how us putting one up could hurt? It CAN'T HURT. And for those who say no recruit has ever chose a school over an ipf, you are wrong. A lot of these kids are very shallow and things like facilities make a BIG difference in their decisions. But like I said, it can't hurt.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 4:50 pm to
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Or during a spring practice on Saturday when it is 30 and 'snowing" on and off.
Or on a cold rainy week before the SECCG (played indoors on PAT fwiw) so you don't have to load up 125 people, equipment, medical supplies/staff, video equip. etc...etc... on buses & drive an hour or so each way to Flowery Branch to use the Falcon's indoor field...
This post was edited on 3/3/13 at 4:52 pm
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 4:52 pm to
I didn't know we did this. Interdasting.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 4:56 pm to
They did last year due to the weather... Luckily the Falcons played the Saints in Atl on Thursday night so the Falcons facility was available for us to use on Wed & Thur. that week...

If the Falcons had a different schedule that week we'd been shite outta luck with the weather...
Posted by DonDraper
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 5:29 pm to
Why not have one? Unless you don't have the money, which UGA definitely does.

One reason we have one? The same reason we have granite tile floor in the AD, and the same reason we have expensive arse chandeliers hanging from the ceiling. It's a statement.

As far as functionality, Saban uses it all the time, whether it's for Pro Day to Jr day it gets plenty of use. One friday we had a bad storm in Ttown before a big game, instead of missing a practice before the game we just went inside.

Players obviously like it more, because of the AC, and they also like to go there just a change of pace. Especially when you have 5 consecutive practice in 100+ degree. I'm pretty sure we also use it to prepare for games in a dome. I could go on and on..
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 5:39 pm to
Bingo Donnie...
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 5:48 pm to
The only reason that UGA doesn't have an IPF is because the administration is cheap. UGA gets consistently outspent by comparable athletic departments in pretty much every sport.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 6:35 pm to
They built the softball/soccer/etc. complex down Milledge with plenty 'o space left. A new nicer (i.e. locker/weight/training/medical) Spec Towns track facility could be built there. Boom, there's your space for an IPF right next to BM...
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 7:33 pm to
I remember several articles related to the decision to build a modified indoor facility.

Basically, it came down to they wanted enough space to do run throughs and basic drills plus enough to say "we have an indoor facility" for recruiting purposes.

The moneny to build one was only part of the issue. Bigger was the maintenance and operation cost on a space that would essentially sit empty 95% of the time.

I for one am glad we didn't waste the money. Just look at UT who went from $30+ million in reserves to basically zero in 5 years by spending too much on capital projects and accumulating debt (combined with coaches payoffs and sucking). Since then, they had to stop putting any money back into the academic side and make all kinds of cuts just to break even. All that and their stadium still has pee troughs.
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 7:38 pm to
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Isn't the area right outside Richts office an indoor facility?



No, it is an indoor stretching and walkthrough facility.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 8:00 pm to
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I remember several articles related to the decision to build a modified indoor facility.

Basically, it came down to they wanted enough space to do run throughs and basic drills plus enough to say "we have an indoor facility" for recruiting purposes.

The moneny to build one was only part of the issue. Bigger was the maintenance and operation cost on a space that would essentially sit empty 95% of the time.

I for one am glad we didn't waste the money. Just look at UT who went from $30+ million in reserves to basically zero in 5 years by spending too much on capital projects and accumulating debt (combined with coaches payoffs and sucking). Since then, they had to stop putting any money back into the academic side and make all kinds of cuts just to break even. All that and their stadium still has pee troughs.


That's how I see it. I hesitate to get involved in an arms race with other schools and end up broke. I understand DonDraper's point too, but I just don't see the justification at UGA.

Even Draper would agree, that money would probably be better spent in hiring more coaches and staff like Saban does. Those additional personnel probably have a greater affect on what happens in a game than an indoor practice facility. If we had a bigger staff, not necessarily as big as Saban's, and we still had a bunch of money leftover to burn, then I think a fancy indoor place would be a good consideration.
Posted by Nicolae
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 8:15 pm to
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That's how I see it. I hesitate to get involved in an arms race with other schools and end up broke. I understand DonDraper's point too, but I just don't see the justification at UGA.

Even Draper would agree, that money would probably be better spent in hiring more coaches and staff like Saban does. Those additional personnel probably have a greater affect on what happens in a game than an indoor practice facility. If we had a bigger staff, not necessarily as big as Saban's, and we still had a bunch of money leftover to burn, then I think a fancy indoor place would be a good consideration.



Justification? I think it has already been given pretty well just in the lost practice time that it saves us. Plus, with summers seemingly getting hotter and all the heat-related deaths of football players the last few years, we cannot practice in 100+ degree weather for extended periods. If there aren't already NCAA regulations regarding it, there will be soon.

As far as the bold part, UGAAD easily has the money to do both of this. We could build the IPF and hire the exact same staff as Saban and still turn a massive profit. We are not UT and not about to go bankrupt.

The current walk-in closet with football field carpeting that we have is really just a testament to how cheap Michael Adams, Damon Evans, and the administration as a whole really are...and is kind of embarrassing. Though I think it is pretty cool to have if we had a real IPF as well.
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