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re: Man our 2024 season sure was wild

Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4680 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:06 pm to
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Couldn't help but laugh:the term "rudderless ship" being self explanatory. Please tell me you don't have a degree from UGA. NO! WAIT!!! I don't want to know the answer to that. I do want to thank you for a laugh during these summer doldrums though.


"Rudderless ship" is a metaphor generally used to mean that something is lacking direction or goals. Peter Buck clearly understood what the poster was saying and wanted the poster to explain why he thought that Georgia's 2024 offense was lacking direction. It was a good question because there can be many different reasons for an offense to underperform expectations.

I personally believe that the 2024 offense looked like it lacked direction in large part because it was sailing through stormy seas. To fully elaborate on the previous sentence, because it was not self-explanatory, I'm using the metaphor "sailing through stormy seas" to say that the 2024 schedule was difficult and would have been challenging for any offense to navigate well.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:38 pm to
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Was it terrible maybe, maybe not. It surely wasn’t good. But thankful for our defense and 102nd ranked rushing game we pulled it out. But idk maybe my expectations were/are a little too high of a qb that’s a second year starter throwing into basically double coverage. The read may not have been bad but there was 2 Texas defenders there and one made the play. Speaking of our rune game we haven’t had a 1000 yard rusher since 2019


So, was it a terrible read or not? Once you answer we can move on to your second example of a terrible read.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73708 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:08 pm to
All this nonsense made me look up stats on cfbstats dot com. Great stat site.

2024-

Beck finished #3 in the SEC in total yards.

Beck finished #4 in completion percentage.

Beck finished #4 in TD's.

Beck finished tied in last for INT's, with 12, tied with Ewers and Nussmeier, who I think are pretty damn good QB's.


So based on that, he wasn't a Heisman candidate but he was top 1/3 in the conference on those stats in the SEC, with an iffy OL and iffy run game, and lets not forget all the wide open on-the-money dropped passes.


I don't want to play the game of breaking down this play or that play, y'all do that.

Beck was a damn good QB. Every QB throws interceptions or fricks up a read every once in a while, even the best of the best.

The Beck hate is because he transferred.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:12 pm to
Agree with all that except the cancer dawgs hated him…. Like they did Stetson. Gunner might frighten them for a while, but they will be back and in greater numbers.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
451 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:06 pm to
lol why is it hate bc I said he regressed from 2023 to 2024? His completion % went down, threw twice as many picks. He threw for less yards, less completions and his rating went from 167.9 to 145.3. If that isn’t regression please tell me what it is? And IMO it was more of Bobo/wr problem than a Beck problem.

I’ve stated before that I think it was dumb to let a 2 year starting qb walk out of your program. If Gunner was truly better he would have been playing more last year
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20057 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:11 am to
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And IMO it was more of Bobo/wr problem than a Beck problem


Horse shite.

Dude was throwing above/under/left/right of intended target. Balls off of fingertips count as drops, too. If it weren't for the circus catches by Bowers/Ladd, the numbers would have been the same. To say it was Bobo's or WR's fault is fricking retarded.
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 6:49 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:18 am to
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lol why is it hate bc I said he regressed from 2023 to 2024? His completion % went down, threw twice as many picks. He threw for less yards, less completions and his rating went from 167.9 to 145.3. If that isn’t regression please tell me what it is? And IMO it was more of Bobo/wr problem than a Beck problem. I’ve stated before that I think it was dumb to let a 2 year starting qb walk out of your program. If Gunner was truly better he would have been playing more last year


So, your first example of a “terrible read” was not a terrible read is what I am seeing. Let’s make sure and then take on your next example tomorrow.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
451 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:56 am to
lol okay.. you dont throw 3 picks in 3 different games by making “good” reads.
Can’t win an argument with an idiot
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 10:14 am to
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The Beck hate is because he transferred.


For the record I may have hated him more if he stayed.
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19399 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 3:18 pm to
I don’t know that it was Beck hate as much as it was just ambivalence. He was a great QB but I don’t think anyone goes into a game in 2024 thinking “man, I can’t wait to see what Beck is going to do”

But that was the whole team last year. There wasn’t any player or players that you were just waiting to take the top off of the game. We need some kids to rise up and become game changers. The kind of players you have to scheme around. That’s what makes Saturdays exciting.

We may never surpass the 21 and 22 years for excitement watching UGA college football. The closest we got was TX 1.0 where we dominated in their house and then the SECCG when Gunner almost got killed bringing us back from behind with Beck handing off to win.
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 4:05 pm to
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lol okay.. you dont throw 3 picks in 3 different games by making “good” reads.
Can’t win an argument with an idiot


Again, you said “terrible reads” . Are you now saying they were not terrbile?
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
6173 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Explain in great detail what you mean by rudderless ship. I’d like to understand what that means to you and how you got there.

I think with Carson's head not being where it should have been he didn't assume the leadership that a QB is supposed to. And it left a vacuum and that showed in the performance of the offense as a whole last year.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3935 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:23 pm to
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Beck never had the team


I think I've mentioned this on here before, but I work with a nurse who's sister dated a player on the team. He told her that NO one on the team liked Beck and he was an obnoxious 'A-hole'. So there's merit to what you're saying here.

I've yet to get a report from her on how they feel about Stockton, but I'm working on it.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
451 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:34 pm to
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Again, you said “terrible reads” . Are you now saying they were not terrbile?


Are you saying throwing into double coverage isn’t terrible?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:20 pm to
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I think with Carson's head not being where it should have been he didn't assume the leadership that a QB is supposed to. And it left a vacuum and that showed in the performance of the offense as a whole last year.


I can see that as a possible scenario.
Teams with multiple QBs have been successful and not all QBs are as great in the leadership department as they are on the field. For some it is their greatest attribute. I would not say this results in a rudderless ship. Coaches play a role as do other players. Typically upperclassman. One take away was he was visibly frustrated with players when they ran the wrong routes or didn’t make catches. I get it, but it doesn’t help the team in the long run. There are QBs that can and do act that way, but they are typically PROs and they have the resume to act that way I guess. I know he heard the chirping from the Cancer Dawgs and unfortunately I think that affected him too.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Are you saying throwing into double coverage isn’t terrible?


What is double coverage in your world?


And you answered a question with a question. Was that a “terrible read”? This is like the 5th time I have asked and you seem to be squirming.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4680 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:27 pm to
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He told her that NO one on the team liked Beck and he was an obnoxious 'A-hole'. So there's merit to what you're saying here.


If that's true (I don't know), is it relevant to the 2024 outcome? In 2023 our offense was very good. Did Beck change and become an A-hole over the summer? Maybe, but even then there have been a lot of quarterbacks who weren't likeable and stil had success. My guess is some truth to the anecdote, but it didn't play a significant role in the 2024 outcome. We won the SEC and would've probably made the final if Beck hadn't been injured. Very tough schedule, dropoff in TE and receiver talent, OL and RB injuries are enough to account for the decline in performance, IMO.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73708 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 10:15 pm to
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If that's true (I don't know),


It was oozing with sarcasm. No, it's not true.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3935 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:06 am to
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No, it's not true.


Uh, actually it IS true. I was not being sarcastic. Granted, it is a 'REO Speedwagon' rumor; "Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another..." So, take it for what that's worth. But her sister really is the girlfriend of a player who told her and her husband that. In fact, I'll see them Saturday at our company summer picnic and I'll see if I can get some more 411.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
451 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:11 am to
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What is double coverage in your world? And you answered a question with a question. Was that a “terrible read”? This is like the 5th time I have asked and you seem to be squirming.


I guess you can’t read so this will be my last time commenting on this. I posted 3 different interceptions he threw, and you’ve only watched the first one or you watched all three and just have no comment on the other two. And every single one of them there was more than one defender around the receiver he was throwing to and that receiver didn’t have a chance to make a play on the ball. The ball didn’t hit anyone’s hands or take any crazy bounces at the line of scrimmage. Terrible, bad, not good, awful, whatever word you like. And I get it that you have a hard on for Beck but acting like he never made mistakes is wild
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