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How can anyone even have concerns about QB on their radar after winning a natty for the

Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:53 pm
first time in 41 years?

There’s nothing left to stress about and people are creating things to make themselves miserable again. It’s almost like some fans were so accustomed to being miserable that they don’t know how to live any other way.

Kirby just won us a natty. I think we owe him the benefit of the doubt that he knows what the hell he’s doing.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:59 pm to
Because the cünt nation is full of idiots
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:25 pm to
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. I think some people were hanging their hat on the idea that you need an "elite" QB to win it all and that narrative just went out the window. They were hanging on to it since the 2018 LSU game, at least, and now they are trying to justify their frustration for being completely wrong.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:37 am to
This count nation thing is so stupid and getting old. Are you guys a bunch of 12 year Olds? If anything, it has proven to me who the biggest five pussies are on this board.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:39 am to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:46 am to
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This count nation thing is so stupid and getting old. Are you guys a bunch of 12 year Olds? If anything, it has proven to me who the biggest five pussies are on this board.


It’s funny… but can you imagine how insufferable this place would be if Stetson didn't do what he did in the 4th quarter? That’s what really is driving it
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:47 am to
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I think some people were hanging their hat on the idea that you need an "elite" QB to win it all and that narrative just went out the window


it goes out the window when you have the best defense you've ever fielded in school history, true. now look at the QBs of the 2020, 2019, 2018, 17, 16, 15, etc etc champions and look at their QB play.

That's not a slight to stetson in any way. It's not talking crap abotu him or sayign he sucks. But it's a fact that waaaaaaaay more often than not, if you are a national championship team, you DO have an elite QB. When you talk about the deshaun watson, trevor lawrence, joe burrows of the world, those guys are simply head and shoulders above stetson. That's inarguable. BUT, the good thing is that real life is actually real life, and we DID have one of the best defenses ever. And we did win it all. Which was awesome.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:49 am to
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It’s funny… but can you imagine how insufferable this place would be if Stetson didn't do what he did in the 4th quarter? That’s what really is driving it



They would have been giddy and said "I told you so"
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2305 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:52 am to
Totally agree. Joe Cox could have won a Natty with this year's team. Kirby built us a team like some of those great Bama teams where you could just plug and play pretty much any QB amd have success.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:00 am to
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Totally agree. Joe Cox could have won a Natty with this year's team. Kirby built us a team like some of those great Bama teams where you could just plug and play pretty much any QB amd have success.


Cox, Bennett and Fromm would likely have won the Heisman if they played for Miami the year Gino Toretta won it. Same could be said for the Sooners the year Jason White won it. They were in the right place at the right time and made the best of it.
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:55 am to
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If anything, it has proven to me who the biggest five pussies are on this board.


Do tell.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41672 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:58 am to
If elite defense can still win championships, then you don’t need an elite QB to win it, and that’s my point.

That’s not what the narrative has been, though. The reason the Bennett and Fromm “haters” have said we need elite QB play in order to win it all is precisely because they didn’t believe this is a team game any more where defenses can contribute significantly to the end result and that offenses like ours can’t cut it.

It was believed that only a high-octane offense led by some DT Adonis with a golden arm could lead us to ultimate victory, and that narrative went out the window. Fromm wasn’t the reason we lost in 2017 and Bennett is the sole reason we won this year. This is a team sport and too much focus is in the QB. This year, we had a great team that executed when it mattered.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5414 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:06 am to
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How can anyone even have concerns about QB on their radar after winning a natty

Because we live in banana land at the moment. UGA football National Champs, top 3 recruiting class for the fifth straight year, Braves World Champs, and instead of celebrating, we're churning out redundant threads and posts about our QB situation. Disappointing at best.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 9:08 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:07 am to
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There’s nothing left to stress about and people are creating things to make themselves miserable again. It’s almost like some fans were so accustomed to being miserable that they don’t know how to live any other way.



I will say this...
I noticed as i was growing older I had to watch my thought process. I found myself becoming more and more critical and thinking more and more negatively.

I think a lot of our posters are just in the habit of thinking negatively and don't realize how bad that has become. We focus on bad things when we actually have so much to be thankful for.

We have a title. A coach that has a winning formula. A deep roster.

I do think you are spot on with this.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:12 am to
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it goes out the window when you have the best defense you've ever fielded in school history, true. now look at the QBs of the 2020, 2019, 2018, 17, 16, 15, etc etc champions and look at their QB play.

Honestly think this is faulty thinking. Just my opinion.

I don't think there is any fast and tired way of winning. There are a lot of ways a team can win.

But there is one thing I do believe. In order to win you have to have a certain amount of luck....good luck. You can have a great team, but with bad luck (2017 2nd and 26 pass) you can lose. With a certain amount of luck we could have had titles in 2012, 2017 and 2021.

I do believe it is a mistake to hand your hat on an elite QB, or elite defense, or elite running game or whatever. It can be won with a variety of ways. Does an elite QB help? Yes. So does an elite defense or elite RB, or pretty much fill in the blank.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:16 am to
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If elite defense can still win championships, then you don’t need an elite QB to win it, and that’s my point.


Our defense could probably be considered elite in 2019 and 2020, and both years got our doors blown off by elite offenses (while we simultaneously had poor QB play). This yera we had a mega-elite defense and still got stomped by alabama when they were decently healthy. In the SECCG they had both their stud WRs for 1 half and were playign a dinged up Robinson (their 2-4 RBs were out hurt I think). In the title game they were moving pretty well until jaemson got hurt early and we completely dominated from there. 2019 lsu and 2020 bama showed that an elite offense simply can't be stopped even by an elite defense. This yera's bama team, even when full strength, wasn't at the level those 2 squads were.

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The reason the Bennett and Fromm “haters” have said we need elite QB play in order to win it all is precisely because they didn’t believe this is a team game any more where defenses can contribute significantly to the end result and that offenses like ours can’t cut it.


I don't fully agree, I think people simply look at what's happening before our eyes and make judgments from there. In 2019 our defense was the best in the country and our offense was garbge. The title winner has an offense for the record books and an alright defense. They stomped us out. In 2020 our defense was maybe a tiny step behind 2019's and the offense again was hit or miss. And again, the title winner had a pretty good defense and an unstoppable offense. And again they beat us by multiple TDs. I don't think it's "hating" to take that into accoutn and say "well..maybe in today's game you do need an elite offense more than elite defense". That's not an insult or talking crap.

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It was believed that only a high-octane offense led by some DT Adonis with a golden arm could lead us to ultimate victory


Again, based on the actual results on the field that isn't wrong to assume.

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, and that narrative went out the window


And as of today, there are now different actual results on the field. So people can change their opinion based on what we see.

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This year, we had a great team that executed when it mattered.


You're right, we sure did.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:20 am to
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Honestly think this is faulty thinking. Just my opinion.

I don't think there is any fast and tired way of winning. There are a lot of ways a team can win.


Of course there's differnet ways to win. But as I pointed out, recent history has shown that there is very clearly one way, having an elite offense with an elite QB and elite passing game, that has proven to be the best way. 2021 put a halt to that narrative for now, but that still doesn't erase the fact that in recne tmemory elite offenses have beaten elite defenses every time.

Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6151 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:23 am to
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It’s funny… but can you imagine how insufferable this place would be if Stetson didn't do what he did in the 4th quarter? That’s what really is driving it


You fricking idiots are the ones driving it. You can’t let it go. Y’all keep making more posts about it. It’s Probly all you have in life so I feel bad being such a prick to you guys about it but sorry the truth hurts.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
106 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:31 am to
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It can be won with a variety of ways. Does an elite QB help? Yes. So does an elite defense or elite RB, or pretty much fill in the blank


I think we all can agree that we had 22 starters that played an important role in leading us to a Natty. Growing up a sports fan of any team in Ga can make you very pessimistic(me), and now we have a World Series and a National championship in the same year, something the state of Alabama has never accomplished and never will (not sure how many states have actually done that). But at the end of the day it wasn’t solely on the mailman or on the defense. Without one or the other it might have been 42 years and counting…… just thankful I’ll never have to hear the 1980 joke it got old quick and so is all this QB debating

FYI whether you like it or not Bennett will be starting against Oregon at the Benz
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20362 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:34 am to
I get having concerns with QB play, at times it did seem like we could have done better
I get wanting BVG/Gunner to play
I get wanting a true, legitimate QB competition.

I also get that Stet is actually, legitmately a top performing QB for the 2021 season, the intangibles that Stet has, how this team rallied around him, how he played extremely clutch against Michigan and Bama, and how his returning provides us a much better chance at achieving lofty goals this fanbase will have, at least for depth reasons.

I don't get actually getting mad that he's returning. It's ludicrous, absurd, and risible.

If that's you, frick you


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