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re: Give this staff time!

Posted on 10/15/16 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 11:34 pm to
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I'm pretty sure it hasn't. (I could be wrong...) They've only beaten us once, haven't they? And they are another awful team.


5 total games so far - they have one win, but it was a big one. We have two big wins, and two wins by a total of four points. And in the 4 years we beat them, they went on to the SECG twice, we went once (and their two were more recent than our one). So if they are "awful," we are worse.


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[Re: SC] But they are awful, right now. We beat them by 40 points or something last year. Do you think they got that much better?


Big wins are the outlier in the series. Close games are the norm. This year's game was reversion to the mean.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7017 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 11:35 pm to
Yes. Sentence them all to about ten years for impersonating college coaches.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 11:46 pm to
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And I honestly didn't think it could be much worse than Schotty, but boy was I wrong.



I can't begin to imagine how many more times we are going to run straight behind the center. It's almost like they are disciplining someone for something....just one tailback dive after another...it is mind boggling how there is nothing else in the playbook
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:07 am to
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I can't begin to imagine how many more times we are going to run straight behind the center. It's almost like they are disciplining someone for something....just one tailback dive after another...it is mind boggling how there is nothing else in the playbook


You're just not thinking tactically, dude. Obviously, if the defense has stopped it 19 straight times, they won't expect us to do it the 20th, 21st, or 22nd times.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24640 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 1:50 am to
Gotta say we should have beat vandy. something is wrong
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 1:51 am
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 1:58 am to
Smart told everyone when he got to UGA that with the exception of a handful of guys most of our team would be 2nd string players on any other SEC team. We are overmatched and in more than a few cases out coached. Give them time, it will get better.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27308 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 4:44 am to
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He also lost a close home game to an awful Vandy team. He had a freshman QB, terrible OL, and not good WRs. Sound familiar?


Our 2006 team ended up beating 3 top 15 teams including a top 5 Auburn and finished
9-4 and ranked.This team won't sniff those numbers.

So no,it doesn't sound familar.

This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 8:41 am
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:00 am to
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Smart told everyone when he got to UGA that with the exception of a handful of guys most of our team would be 2nd string players on any other SEC team. We are overmatched and in more than a few cases out coached. Give them time, it will get better.


Most people do not realize this. Our talent level is not up to par with the other top SEC schools. Our WRs haven't been good in a while, and would any of them start on the other top teams in the nation/sec?? I dont think so. DBs are the same.

Also I dont know if you guys noticed at how much we rotate on DEF, and I'm quiet sure that we don't have many guys on D that could or would start for the other top programs in the SEC/nation. T Thompson would probably start for any other school, but other than him, I don't see too many. Maybe Nauta would too.

Sure the play calling on offense has been bad, but if you can't run the ball, usually the play calling ends up being bad anyway.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58984 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:36 am to
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And in the 4 years we beat them, they went on to the SECG twice


Nope. South Carolina has only been once.

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So if they are "awful," we are worse.


We are playing worse. We have a whole lot more talent. That was my point.

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Big wins are the outlier in the series. Close games are the norm.


While true, we still beat them 40 points and they won 3 games. Think about that. 3 games. I don't care how close the series has been, they have not improved that much, and we should have trucked them this year.

They have lost to Mississippi St., who is awful and they have lost to Kentucky, who is awful. I guess they DID beat Vanderbilt, though, so there's that.

I'm not sure if you are saying we are better that our record, or if we are worse. Any way you slice it, we are NOT playing at the level the talent we currently have should allow us to play. Do you agree with this statement, or disagree?

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58984 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:38 am to
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You're just not thinking tactically, dude. Obviously, if the defense has stopped it 19 straight times, they won't expect us to do it the 20th, 21st, or 22nd times.


In fairness, I understand that we are basically a running team. However, they (The coaches) do not adjust very well.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58984 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:41 am to
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Most people do not realize this. Our talent level is not up to par with the other top SEC schools.


We understand that. but honestly/....is it up to par with Nicholls, South Carolina, Vanderbilt? Ole Miss is 3-3 right now, and could possibly lose to LSU, Texas A&M and Auburn.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 5:54 am to
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We understand that. but honestly/....is it up to par with Nicholls, South Carolina, Vanderbilt? Ole Miss is 3-3 right now, and could possibly lose to LSU, Texas A&M and Auburn.


Did any of yall really expect a freshman qb, who played high school ball in Washington, to really perform well every game this year? Then throw in that the OLine cannot block worth a damn or open any running lanes and you got problems. Not to mention that our WRs are shite.

Also do you really think our talent is that much better than those teams you listed? And do you think our talent level can overcome the weak Oline/wr/db play we have been seeing the past several weeks?

I guess my point is with the low level talent we have, a freshman qb (who didn't even play football in a power state like, FL, GA, TX, CA), and a rookie coach with with new offensive and defensive coordinators, did yall really expect us to win every game? I think most expected us to lose 3-5 games.

Sure if our Oline was opening up holes all game and given Eason all the time in the world, then yeah we can put more blame on him or the coaches, but that just isn't the case. When they moved Gillard over from the DEF to offense and he has been the starting RG, then I think it shows how talentless we are on the line. Not to mention the transfer from Rhode Island who has been our starting LT.

Plus we beat Nicholls and USC, so it seems like we do have more talent than them, judging by the score.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58984 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 6:23 am to
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Did any of yall really expect a freshman qb, who played high school ball in Washington, to really perform well every game this year?


Actually, I think Eason is performing very well. certainly better than Lambert did last year, and better than I expected this year.

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Then throw in that the OLine cannot block worth a damn or open any running lanes and you got problems.


The OL is blocking well for the pass when the Defense sells out to stop the run and they block well for the run when the defense sells out to stop the pass. The play calling has been suspect. Think about the games. We have run well at times and passed well at times....rarely both in the same game.

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Also do you really think our talent is that much better than those teams you listed?


Yes. MUCH better. Studies have shown that the teams that typically recruit well have good seasons. We consistently out recruit better than all of the teams listed. (Ole Miss is the obvious exception, lately)

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I guess my point is with the low level talent we have,


When you check to see the number of $8 and 5* players we have on our roster compared to Nicholls, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and Missouri, we are loaded with talent. Depth? not so much. However, those teams have even less depth.

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Not to mention the transfer from Rhode Island who has been our starting LT.



That transfer from Rhode Island is projecting to the NFL. But he has no talent?

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Plus we beat Nicholls and USC, so it seems like we do have more talent than them, judging by the score.


Nicholls. Go check what they do to other really bad teams then get back to me. And if it weren't for a late onside kickoff for a TD, the South Carolina game would have been scary close. go see who Vanderbilt and South Carolina has beaten and who they have lost to, and tell me you think they should have played us as close as they did.

We were 14 point favorites to beat Vanderbilt. Look at all the miscues. The confusion. When granthan was here all we could talk about was the confusion on the field for the defense. We are getting that confusion on the field from both the offense and the defense now, yet, that's ok?

ETA

I'm not sure why people are giving a pass to our coaches. My guess? People screamed they wanted Richt fired, so they feel like they have to support THIS coaching staff to justify their wanting Richt fired.


THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RICHT, BUT EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE COACHING WE ARE NOW GETTING. You guys can relax. We all feel like it was time for Richt to go and he is not coming back.
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 6:26 am
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5215 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:06 am to
Thats what's going on on this board exactly, the "CMR haters", are lumping ALL those who are criticizing Smart with those who didn't want CMR fired. That's just not the case. Most of the CMR haters are so hell bent on defending the fire that, they are willing to stick their head in the sand and not be realistic about the current coaching issues. They only want to continue to blame Richt.

While clearly UGA lacks in talent, there is no excuse for playing to the level of Nichols and Losing to Vandy. The players are not showing up to play to their max potential, and that is before the game starts and has EVERYTHING to do with coaching. Kirby has got to figure this out! Most logical fans se it, the players see it, the media see it, and Kirby admits it; the only ones who are blind are you idiots who still want to blame Richt.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:18 am to
I agree with this. This consistent pining for Richt is just embarrassing. That being said, my patience has begun to run thin with these dudes. Not saying I want to fire anyone yet but the honeymoon phase is definitely over.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:28 am to
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This consistent pining for Richt is just embarrassing. That being said, my patience has begun to run thin with these dudes. Not saying I want to fire anyone yet but the honeymoon phase is definitely over.
Agree, I wasn't expecting to win the east this year, but I definitely didn't expect to lose to Vandy at home either. I'm still willing to give Kirby a mulligan for this year, but we do need to see some improvement moving forward.

Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:46 am to
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Smart told everyone when he got to UGA that with the exception of a handful of guys most of our team would be 2nd string players on any other SEC team.

I bet that was inspiring to the players. Gee...I wonder why we haven't seen much effort from a few of them? Or why one of them trashed him on social media? One of these days some of you "Kirby can't do wrong" kids is going to realize there's a difference between being critical of a team and being an a-hole. Right now, Kirby is just being an a-hole and at the same time giving himself an excuse for a bad product on the field. Maybe that'll improve, maybe it won't. I hope it does.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49403 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:49 am to
It just first fricking season, he doesn't even have his recruits in yet. Richt left him with very little talent wise because he got lazy. I know this is a new concept for you, but how you wait a couple seasons before calling for his head. If anyone thought we'd be good this season they're insane
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:51 am to
Where did I call for his head? And thanks for making my point. See how I was critical of Kirby and your immediately jump to I want him fired? See how his players could jump to that same conclusion about themselves when all they hear is him trashing them in the media? Calm down and use your brain, you may make the connection. Or don't.
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 9:57 am
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:55 am to
They are way more talented than Vanderbilt.

I gave Smart time. 7 games. It's obvious he and his entire staff are the worst.

Time to look for another coach.
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