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re: Fromm's night
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:47 am to chillmonster
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:47 am to chillmonster
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If you want the offense to change argue that.
I don't think it needs to, as long as you have the RPO plays to utilize a dual threat QB's running ability. He has to be someone that can actually throw the ball and learn how to take a snap under center. Without that, forget about it.
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:55 am to chillmonster
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Now you could say Fields should have been given more opportunity
My issue was not with Fields sitting behind Fromm. My issue was the illogical use of him. Having him run one play at a time only to immediately take him out was pointless? Why bother with that nonsense? If that's all you're going to do you might as well have redshirted him from the beginning while letting him play significantly in four cupcake games, because you're certainly not developing him. I also had a problem with him being given no chance when Fromm wet the bed against LSU. Would he have been any better? Maybe not, but we'll never know. It couldn't have hurt to give him a series or two.
Smart was simply trying to keep Fields happy enough to keep him from leaving.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:02 pm to HTDawg
Fields got plenty of series.
If you want more playing time, you need to play better.
That's how it usually works in college football.
The unfortunate truth is that we gave Fields too many reps. They weren't earned. They were given to him (maybe promised. maybe to keep him happy. maybe to develop him for December). At the end of the day, he wasn't better than Fromm. He didn't develop from the beginning of the season to the end with regards to keeping his eyes downfield and finding the right target for the pass.
Fromm will lead this team further than Fields or Eason this season. That includes having to play Bama along the way.
If you want more playing time, you need to play better.
That's how it usually works in college football.
The unfortunate truth is that we gave Fields too many reps. They weren't earned. They were given to him (maybe promised. maybe to keep him happy. maybe to develop him for December). At the end of the day, he wasn't better than Fromm. He didn't develop from the beginning of the season to the end with regards to keeping his eyes downfield and finding the right target for the pass.
Fromm will lead this team further than Fields or Eason this season. That includes having to play Bama along the way.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:17 pm to meansonny
Fields earned the right to start after the LSU game. I guess no one remembers the Tennessee game a few weeks before when the offense was stuck in a rut and he came in for us and was a spark.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:33 pm to HTDawg
The LSU loss had a lot to do with UGA’s OL getting blown up to the point Fromm did not even have time to set his feet. He would take one step back and the defender is pummeling him. Fields or Trevor would have had the same failure in that game. Fact.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:36 pm to jodeaux
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Fields earned the right to start after the LSU game.
How in the world did you determine that "Fields earned the right to start"?? Are you a UGA corch? Did you see all practices leading up to and after the LSU game? This is a ridiculous statement.
I do think Fields should have played, as he couldn't possibly do worse than Fromm that day. But Fromm wasn't the only player who shite the bed that day.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:46 pm to meansonny
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Fields got plenty of series.
Fields only got series at the end of a few cupcake games where he performed well. Doesn't mean he would have performed well in more meaningful games. Most of his season was spent being put in to run one play and pick up a first down only to be immediately taken out. That's a stupid use of a QB. Redshirting him while giving him series in four easy games would have been a better usage of Justin Fields. Maybe he didn't want to redshirt. Who knows.
This discussion is kind of pointless now other than seeing if we lost a game changer based on his performance over the next couple of years. If he blows up, losing him will hurt even more. If he doesn't, then we've lost nothing. If we can win a championship, then none of it matters. If we don't and he leads OSU to one, I don't even want to think about that.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:10 pm to HTDawg
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This discussion is kind of pointless now other than seeing if we lost a game changer based on his performance over the next couple of years. If he blows up, losing him will hurt even more. If he doesn't, then we've lost nothing. If we can win a championship, then none of it matters. If we don't and he leads OSU to one, I don't even want to think about that.
Fields is going to be at least a very good college QB. No matter the opponent if you go for 5 TD 0 int in your first ever start (70% 8td 0 int for his short career) you are for real. To think otherwise isn't being realistic. That doesn't mean he should have started over Fromm.
Nobody can say he earned anything if they weren't at practice, and I don't see how he (or any freshman) could have outperformed Fromm in that setting. Take a look at how Tua was handled. Everyone knew that Hurts was not the passer Tua was, but he wasn't bad enough to lose the job that season. So Hurts remained the starter, and he remained the guy until they were grasping at straws in the season's last game.
The next season there was a more realistic QB competition and Tua won. Maybe Fields would have won also, but Fields is still the 3rd highest rated QB prospect ever. He expected the second year scenario in year one, and that wasn't going to happen with Fromm at QB. He was never going to wait a long as Tua, and judging by his performance so far I'm not sure I blame him.
The only thing I think Kirby could have done better is stated that Fromm is the starter. There's always a competition, but Fromm had earned it exactly like Jalen did. "We'll evaluate week to week like we do every position, but Fromm is the guy." That way you set the tone that Fields wasn't even with Fromm, which he wasn't, and maybe would have changed expectations and changed the outcome.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:24 pm to chillmonster
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The LSU loss had a lot to do with UGA’s OL getting blown up to the point Fromm did not even have time to set his feet. He would take one step back and the defender is pummeling him. Fields or Trevor would have had the same failure in that game. Fact.
A bit of an overblown description of the game but all this does is highlight the value of having a dual threat QB.
In those games against good opponents where there's a pass rush, you have a fail safe! A guy who can get out of the pocket and make the defense pay for not staying in their rush lanes.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:42 pm to athenslife101
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I honestly think it’s a game plan issue
This.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:02 pm to dan765
Fields is throwing the ball all over the yard today
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:03 pm to jodeaux
And? It’s Cincy
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:11 pm to DawgCountry
quote:Yeah, Fields is good but Cincinnati doesn’t exactly have a championship caliber defense.
And? It’s Cincy
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:17 pm to FooManChoo
Ohio State’s O line controlling the LOS. Cincy went to some combo coverage and confused him the last few series.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:19 pm to FooManChoo
They're not as bad as you think they are, they finished 2018 statistically in the top 10 in total defense and finished 11-2 last season
This post was edited on 9/7/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:34 pm to jodeaux
Cincinnati is the best G5 team in the country.
As much as I hate to say it, Fields and the entire OSU team look incredible. Definitely one of the three or four best in the country.
As much as I hate to say it, Fields and the entire OSU team look incredible. Definitely one of the three or four best in the country.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:39 pm to NCDawg52
I’m super impressed with his throw always 
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:51 pm to Peter Buck
It's amazing how people are still shitting on Fields knowing dam well if he was the starter here we would be the favorites to win the next 2 championships. Let it go. Fields did what was best for Fields and not your feelings.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:57 pm to DawgRff
The dude hasn’t played a SEC caliber team yet.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 2:00 pm to DawgRff
WTF does that mean? If he was better than Fromm he would be starting at 4pm for us
And saying OSU hasn’t played anyone with a pulse is not shitting on Fields. It’s facts. He should be putting up monster numbers against these teams. Sorry that hurts your feelings
And saying OSU hasn’t played anyone with a pulse is not shitting on Fields. It’s facts. He should be putting up monster numbers against these teams. Sorry that hurts your feelings
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