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Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:50 pm to CBBDawg316
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:50 pm to CBBDawg316
Kirby has raised expectations for GA which is why these type of losses make them so much harder to swallow for many.
Expectation - 1 loss but really thought that would be Auburn or Texas A&M but ultimately we'd return to the SECCG.
Reality - The SC game to me was Murphys law so I think everything is still in play, but not guaranteed.
Expectation - 1 loss but really thought that would be Auburn or Texas A&M but ultimately we'd return to the SECCG.
Reality - The SC game to me was Murphys law so I think everything is still in play, but not guaranteed.
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:53 pm to DawgForever
My man...I don't even understand what point you are trying to state.
My statement to the point above was the passing attempts were skewed because we had two 2-minute opportunities that were predominantly pass as we chased points from behind. If we're not turning the ball over, we're not in that position.
We're not a passing team who needs 50+ passing attempts. We need to be balanced. We don't have Jeudy, Ruggs, and Smith at our disposal so we have to design and set up plays to get our guys open. If they can have success, that only helps our rushing attack. But it takes the QB and receivers to make that happen. We have to pass to set up the run and vice versa. Our passing play designs need to be mixed up from slants and crossing patterns to check downs and downfield shots.
Delusional is not my forte. I think it will be tough as hell to win out. Not impossible, but tough. UF is playing well with a defense that can match up with our offense. Mizzou has gotten better since the Wyoming debacle. We still have to make the trek to Auburn. And Saturday's performance makes you question our ability to rise up vs. the Kentucky's and A&Ms of the world.
That's reality.
My statement to the point above was the passing attempts were skewed because we had two 2-minute opportunities that were predominantly pass as we chased points from behind. If we're not turning the ball over, we're not in that position.
We're not a passing team who needs 50+ passing attempts. We need to be balanced. We don't have Jeudy, Ruggs, and Smith at our disposal so we have to design and set up plays to get our guys open. If they can have success, that only helps our rushing attack. But it takes the QB and receivers to make that happen. We have to pass to set up the run and vice versa. Our passing play designs need to be mixed up from slants and crossing patterns to check downs and downfield shots.
Delusional is not my forte. I think it will be tough as hell to win out. Not impossible, but tough. UF is playing well with a defense that can match up with our offense. Mizzou has gotten better since the Wyoming debacle. We still have to make the trek to Auburn. And Saturday's performance makes you question our ability to rise up vs. the Kentucky's and A&Ms of the world.
That's reality.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:00 pm to TallyDawg
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Reality - The SC game to me was Murphys law so I think everything is still in play, but not guaranteed.
I'm reminded of the 2014 UF/Missouri game. Look at these stats and guesstimate what the final score was:
1st downs: 17 to 7, UF
Pass yards: 148 to 20(!), UF
Rush yards: 135 to 99, UF
penalties: 3 for UF, 11 for Missouri
TOP: 34 min to 26 min, UF
Based on the stats it's pretty clear that UF was in control and probably cruised, right?
Final score: Florida 13......Missouri 42
Wtf? How? Well UF had 6 turnovers to Mizz's 1. Missouri also scored TDs off a KO return, a Punt return, a fumble return, and an interception return.
Sometimes it just isn't your day, and that's what it felt like saturday. I think we beat SC 9 times out of 10 but this just happened to be the 1 where absolutely nothing went our way. Murphy's law, as you said.
HOWEVER..with all that said, it'd be easy to jsut chalk this up as "one of those days" and move on but what's really worrisome is that it didn't seem like our offensive coaches realized how stubborn and stupid we were being. The entire offensive gameplan after the 2nd series was garbage. I'm not sure how easily correctable that is.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:34 am to WG_Dawg
Completely agree WG. 51% of me says it was just one of those days, the other 49% says there is something "else" going on that is disrupting the team cohesiveness.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:05 am to WG_Dawg
I remain optimistic. USC was an anomaly, but will hopefully result in some positive change in our play calling. I still expect to win the East.
Image this scenerio. We beat LSU in the SECCG, LSU beat Bama to get there. All three teams have one loss. UGA with the worst loss to USC, but is the SEC Champ. LSU with a loss to UGA, the SEC champ. Bama with a loss to LSU. I hope we would make the playoffs by being the SEC champ, but the loss to USC?
Image this scenerio. We beat LSU in the SECCG, LSU beat Bama to get there. All three teams have one loss. UGA with the worst loss to USC, but is the SEC Champ. LSU with a loss to UGA, the SEC champ. Bama with a loss to LSU. I hope we would make the playoffs by being the SEC champ, but the loss to USC?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:10 am to WG_Dawg
Hopefully we're not like that 2014 UF team who finished what...7-5?
I agree to a degree with you. Again, watching the game live and knowing we were chasing points and seemingly unable to get any makes you perceive everything as bad. The gameplan wasn't terrible. We threw high percentage throws, we pushed the ball downfield, we ran the rock...we did everything we typically do...
But go back and look at the execution again. With fresh eyes and no panic of the outcome. There were 2 or 3 runs in the first half that Swift or Zeus break for long runs if we hold our blocks or don't let guys go free; it's an explosive play or drive continues. Drive continues if Mays doesn't get blown up on 2nd down after a successful 1st down, and then whiff on 3rd down. Drives continues if Wilson doesn't get blown up by Kenlaw and Fromm doesn't get cute and makes the better decision to throw it away instead of throwing his pick 6. Drive continues if we don't get a holding penalty on Big Ben behind the play and get behind the sticks. Everything, I mean everything, that could have went wrong did. Injuries, missed assignments, lack of effort, poor decisions, missed field goals, fumble, interceptions...everything!
Our execution was shat...moreso than the playcalling and that's coming from a person that thought the opposite on Saturday. We had so many opportunities...hopefully it's one game and not a sign of things to come.
I agree to a degree with you. Again, watching the game live and knowing we were chasing points and seemingly unable to get any makes you perceive everything as bad. The gameplan wasn't terrible. We threw high percentage throws, we pushed the ball downfield, we ran the rock...we did everything we typically do...
But go back and look at the execution again. With fresh eyes and no panic of the outcome. There were 2 or 3 runs in the first half that Swift or Zeus break for long runs if we hold our blocks or don't let guys go free; it's an explosive play or drive continues. Drive continues if Mays doesn't get blown up on 2nd down after a successful 1st down, and then whiff on 3rd down. Drives continues if Wilson doesn't get blown up by Kenlaw and Fromm doesn't get cute and makes the better decision to throw it away instead of throwing his pick 6. Drive continues if we don't get a holding penalty on Big Ben behind the play and get behind the sticks. Everything, I mean everything, that could have went wrong did. Injuries, missed assignments, lack of effort, poor decisions, missed field goals, fumble, interceptions...everything!
Our execution was shat...moreso than the playcalling and that's coming from a person that thought the opposite on Saturday. We had so many opportunities...hopefully it's one game and not a sign of things to come.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:14 am to Broncothor
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I hope we would make the playoffs by being the SEC champ, but the loss to USC?
Let me calm your fears and tell you that there is a 100% chance we would make the playoffs. We have 5 years' worth of data at our disposal here so it's pretty well known how the committee operates. We would have a bad loss (our only loss) but would have wins over Notre Dame, Florida, Auburn, and LSU and would be conference champions. There is no way on this earth that we would be left out of the playoffs.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:15 am to CBBDawg316
I wish I felt differently but I think we lose a game in November. My guess would be at Auburn. We shot ourselves in the foot and in the end I think it costs us, big time.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:26 am to MacDawg
And if they lose because a team outplays them, then so be it. They have the talent to run the table. A lot of teams in CFB in the past have, but teams have to use their talent in every game otherwise this past Saturday happens.
When they play a good game and the scoreboard doesn't fall in their favor, that happens. It sucks watching your guys play poorly and lose like they did. That's hard to stomach.
When they play a good game and the scoreboard doesn't fall in their favor, that happens. It sucks watching your guys play poorly and lose like they did. That's hard to stomach.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:32 am to lewis and herschel
Losing against USCe might now be a blessing in disguise.
I thought we had some issues on offense after the UT game. After USCe, most UGA fans now know we have issues and I am sure the staff does also. It would have sucked to make it all the way to the SEC championship game only to be exposed. Now we have been exposed let's fix the problems.
I thought we had some issues on offense after the UT game. After USCe, most UGA fans now know we have issues and I am sure the staff does also. It would have sucked to make it all the way to the SEC championship game only to be exposed. Now we have been exposed let's fix the problems.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:32 am to frogtown
If we don’t turn the corner on that loss I see 2-3 more losses this year. How the hell we going into Jordan hare and winning when we can’t even beat a bad team at home? Florida got beat but they’re still playing good. And that mizzou trap game between the two? My god. This team has all the talent in the world but seems to lack heart. And coaching.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:56 am to Broncothor
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I remain optimistic. USC was an anomaly, but will hopefully result in some positive change in our play calling. I still expect to win the East.
Image this scenerio. We beat LSU in the SECCG, LSU beat Bama to get there. All three teams have one loss. UGA with the worst loss to USC, but is the SEC Champ. LSU with a loss to UGA, the SEC champ. Bama with a loss to LSU. I hope we would make the playoffs by being the SEC champ, but the loss to USC?
LOL hadn't thought of that scenario. Without a shadow of doubt I think we'd be in.
I also think the SECCG runner up would be in, regardless if it's LSU or Bama. The committee would give a strong consideration to 3 SEC teams but the CFB world would catch on fire if it happened.
I actually want this to happen now to see the chaos.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:08 pm to TallyDawg
Kentucky...
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:22 pm to WG_Dawg
We're still undefeated in regulation (LSU's rallying point in '07)... 
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:23 pm to Griffindawg
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How the hell we going into Jordan hare and winning when we can’t even beat a bad team at home?
Dont turn it over 4 times.
Dont give up an over the top TD.
Dont miss field goals.
Be better against the run.
Be better with penalties.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 4:04 pm to lewis and herschel
I did not see us running the table. I expected at least one loss but I expected us to beat UF and to make it to the SEC championship. Now I don't see either of those things happening. Conceivably, I see a loss to UF and probably Auburn too. I just hope we do not have a 4th loss somewhere.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 4:18 pm to meansonny
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Dont miss field goals.
So long as Blankenship doesn't go Blair Walsh 2.0, I think we can write off this past game as an anomaly.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:39 pm to lewis and herschel
This is the same quality of players (slightly better overall actually) that won the SEC and almost won the Natty.
They had garbage losses in each of those years as well. (Opponent was weaker this year but the quality of play was about the same and margin of loss was also much smaller.)
I have plenty of issues with how the game was called and how certain players played, but a bad game was never outside the realm of expectation.
Every year play (and play calling) improved after the loss and the team show some resilience down the stretch. Therefore, my expectations remain the same: I still put us at about 50% to with the SECC and make the playoff.
They had garbage losses in each of those years as well. (Opponent was weaker this year but the quality of play was about the same and margin of loss was also much smaller.)
I have plenty of issues with how the game was called and how certain players played, but a bad game was never outside the realm of expectation.
Every year play (and play calling) improved after the loss and the team show some resilience down the stretch. Therefore, my expectations remain the same: I still put us at about 50% to with the SECC and make the playoff.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:54 pm to chillmonster
Our running backs were better on that team
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:58 pm to Griffindawg
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Our running backs were better on that team
QB and Defense are both better on this team.
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