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re: Defensive effort in the 2nd half

Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:40 pm to
Kirby can’t manage a QB room for shite.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:45 pm to
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Kirby didn't do it, so I begin to wonder if JT has already checked out and is only there for emergency purposes with the understanding he won't enter the portal until after the season.



No offense, but this is about as crazy of a theory as people thinking UGA threw last night's game.

Despite Stet's extra year of eligibility next season, the job next season is JT's, if he wants it. With that guarantee in his back pocket, I don't see what motivation he would have to enter the portal. He clearly likes being a Dawg, has put in the work to learn the playbook front to back, probably feels he still has something to prove here.

If he's lost trust in Kirby and doesn't believe it's truly his job next season then, yes, he'll transfer out. But if he doesn't trust his coach, why would he possibly stick around to do him a favor?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14179 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:45 pm to
You say 5 ints but most of that was from stets 4-5 start last year.

Last night, Bowers stopped running on one for no reason and the second one was just bad, but all qbs have those.

You seem to think Kirby is ignoring some great qb we have as back up.

Back ups are back ups for a reason. The nfl shows this year in and out.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:49 pm to
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No offense, but this is about as crazy of a theory as people thinking UGA threw last night's game.


No, the theory of throwing a game is complete lunacy.

The theory of a guy losing his job two months ago and telling coach he wants to leave, and makes agreement to stay on through the season is actually plausible. It's a conversation that a reasonable person could imagine happening or has even had himself in a job at some point.

Throwing the SECCG is not a series of conversations that a reasonable person could imagine happening.
Posted by Jessa
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:50 pm to
At the end of the day we all might just have to accept the unfortunate truth that Kirby thinks Stet is better than a healthy JT. He may be one of the few people that think that but he is the coach. Stet convinced the one person he needed to and the team will pay for it.
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 4:52 pm
Posted by dhuck20
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:58 pm to
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At the end of the day we all might just have to accept the unfortunate truth that Kirby thinks Stet is better than a healthy JT. He may be one of the few people that think that but he is the coach. Stet convinced the one person he needed to.
Im going to assume a lot here so bear with me.

Kirby puts way too much stock into practice reps. Not sure what JT is doing/not doing at practice (ignoring some crazy JT not healthy/not playing theory), but he’s not winning the job back that’s for sure. And Stetson isn’t losing it.

I’m also afraid that Kirby puts way too much stock into the leadership/team dynamic aspect of the QB situation. I guess he feels like Stet earned it when JT was held out of the Arkansas game and he’s scared as hell to play that 2 QB game.

That’s not even touching on Kirby’s lack of real reps for the 2nd/3rd/4th string QBs. They come in, throw swing passes and comeback routes to our 2nd string WRs and hand it off to Daijun Edwards. I truly believe even if JT had been thrown out there yesterday, he’d have been rusty due to lack of reps.
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:01 pm to
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and the team will pay for it.





Posted by Jessa
Member since Nov 2021
19 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:08 pm to
Don't get me wrong the defense collapsed spectacularly in that game. We hold them to the most points we have given up all season and we win. But Alabama's offense is better than anything we have seen right? Well Auburn's defense held them to 3 points until the last minute of regulation. So what is it? Defensive play calling? How could it go so wrong. They just came in with a do or die mentality and we did not I suppose.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:29 pm to
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Why is the burden of performance always on the defense?


Because defense prevents the other team from scoring.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:34 pm to
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At the end of the day we all might just have to accept the unfortunate truth that Kirby thinks Stet is better than a healthy JT.


Your statement is based on the premise that JT is healthy. I'm not so sure that is true.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:55 pm to
At this point, I'm inclined to believe the folks who speculate that JT isn't 100%.

Nobody wants this Bama monkey off our backs more than Kirby.

If we begin to hear that JT is getting more reps with the 1s as we get closer to NYE, you'll know he's been limited to this point and speculation about Stet being better in practice was strategic gamesmanship to keep opposing DCs guessing .
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:51 am to
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because it makes no sense to not put him in after the Stetson pick 6.


So, if the argument is that we can't win in the playoffs with Bennett...the plan is to send a maybe-still-injured guy in to take a beating in a losing effort and risk losing for the playoffs?

Posted by lambertdawg
South Forsyth County
Member since Sep 2012
977 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:04 am to
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Well Auburn's defense held them to 3 points until the last minute of regulation. So what is it?

^^^^^^^
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
839 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:11 am to
Don't know many, if any other teams/QB's who could win that type of game. But, you keep being you.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10740 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:22 am to
We averaged 40 points a game this season.

I’m pissed Bennett tossed those stupid picks and we didn’t pick up the fumble.

100% believe if we don’t do just those 3 things..regardless of how defense played..we win.

Both of those picks (I believe) were on second down too..their side of 50. IMO he got caught up in how the game was going and tried to do too much. He lost it. Maybe JT doesn’t..who knows.

Can’t change things but just those three plays turned everything.

Most of Bama catches were wide damn open..that’s on D to fix. No…we didn’t properly get pressure early. Did we play too conservative a zone? Did they have reads or signals? Idk but fixable things.

Zero doubt that exact team can beat Bama. With Stet or JT.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 5:24 am
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9934 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:40 am to
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Stetson is a game manager and is not going to throw us back into the game. That pick six was the backbreaker.


This. Stetson played fine while the game was going in our kind of flow and he didn’t feel pressured to make big plays or risk going down big.

He’s not a guy who can direct a 14-point comeback. He needs great defensive play and running game to build off of.
Posted by lambertdawg
South Forsyth County
Member since Sep 2012
977 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:44 am to
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we didn’t pick up the fumble.

Third grade football players are taught how to fall on a fumble. Nolan Smith had a huge blunder in trying to pick that ball up. That was a huge missed opportunity.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1155 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:58 am to
Momentum can carry a team…this play was the antithesis of the Oklahoma onside kick at the end of the first half of the Rose Bowl. Nolan picks it up and we go into halftime tied and with all the momentum, especially since Metchie would not play another snap in the game. You cannot make any mistakes when playing Bama…my guess is if that presents itself again he’ll be diving on that ball.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 6:59 am
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:38 am to
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Throwing the SECCG is not a series of conversations that a reasonable person could imagine happening.


Exactly!
- Eddie Cicotte
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