re: COVID Spike at UGA

You have trouble with math. The Israeli numbers show that the unvaccinated were 3.1 times more likely to incur severe disease. Pfizer vaccine was 67.5% effective against severe disease now that its efficacy has declined. The vaccine still prevents over 2/3 of severe cases.

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Over 90% (maybe now over 95%) of Israel's population over the age of 65 have been vaccinated.

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Ok.

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Those same people are also the most susceptible to severe disease and death.

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Yep.

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Some people in this group will still die because they remain the most at-risk and when almost 100% of them have been vaccinated, it's kinda hard to have anyone die that isn't vaxxed.

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So you admit vaxxed people are dying? Aren’t the at risk groups the ones who need to get vaxxed the most? It’s a shame that the vax doesn’t work good enough to prevent those deaths.

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We understand. You want all the fat, diabetic, hypertensive folks to reverse their health trajectory before they get sick. This will save them all. Good luck with that realistic plan of yours.

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The virus is going to hang around from now on just like every other highly contagious/low lethality seasonal virus. Are you saying people would be wasting their time losing weight and preventing other comorbidities? No one should waste time trying to get healthy, so that they can give themselves the BEST chance to survive?

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So you admit vaxxed people are dying? Aren’t the at risk groups the ones who need to get vaxxed the most? It’s a shame that the vax doesn’t work good enough to prevent those deaths.

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You expect that out of 95% of the oldest, most physiologically susceptible population, none should die? Life doesn’t work that way. And you go on to assert that none of this same group has avoided hospitalization or death due to their decision to get vaccinated? That’s where you falter. You see things one way, and one way only. I get it. Flex, MOST of the people in that group have survived in part because of their decision to get vaccinated. It’s tough to be 75-80 years old and have a bunch of other stuff going on and then ask the vaccine to be 100% effective in bailing you and those like you out. But it has done its job for the majority as the data provided clearly shows.

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The virus is going to hang around from now on just like every other highly contagious/low lethality seasonal virus. Are you saying people would be wasting their time losing weight and preventing other comorbidities? No one should waste time trying to get healthy, so that they can give themselves the BEST chance to survive?

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No one is arguing getting healthy in the long term. That isn’t helping anyone who gets exposed in the next week or two or even the next few months. So what? They’re just collateral damage? No biggie? This will be around forever, no doubt. It will likely never be the “common cold” because of the vascular component. As long as it continues to come with clotting issues, it will always pose more risk than your average coronavirus, even to younger, healthy people. No amount of working out or healthy eating removes that aspect.

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under the age of 65

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I don’t know if your inbred family dies around that age, but there are plenty of people who expect to live, and do live, for 20 or 30 years beyond that point. The implication that older people’s lives have less worth and it doesn’t matter if they die to COVID is sickening and anti-life.

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You expect that out of 95% of the oldest, most physiologically susceptible population, none should die? Life doesn’t work that way. And you go on to assert that none of this same group has avoided hospitalization or death due to their decision to get vaccinated? That’s where you falter. You see things one way, and one way only. I get it. Flex, MOST of the people in that group have survived in part because of their decision to get vaccinated. It’s tough to be 75-80 years old and have a bunch of other stuff going on and then ask the vaccine to be 100% effective in bailing you and those like you out. But it has done its job for the majority as the data provided clearly shows.

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Just say it: vaccinated people can die from Covid.

That’s all I need from you.

Thanks,

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My grandmother is in the hospital with double pneumonia due to COVID right now. I'm awaiting the call that she's passed away. She's 93 and fully vaccinated.

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Hate to hear that. Prayers.

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My grandmother is in the hospital with double pneumonia due to COVID right now. I'm awaiting the call that she's passed away. She's 93 and fully vaccinated.

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Very sorry to hear this and prayers to you and your family. I would think it stands to reason that she wouldn't have fared well regardless of her vaccination status, unfortunately. There's a lot working against you at that age, and that could be said for any number of ailments. That said, people pull through in these situations, so all hope is not lost. Godspeed.

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Hell of a “vaccine”

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So no one ever died from the flu after being vaccinated? Nobody got smallpox after vaccination? Ebola? Meningitis? Let me say this really slowly for you: NO VACCINE IS 100% EFFECTIVE. Some are close, but NONE are. No vaccine ever produced true immunity.

Now, again, as you cherry-pick stories about this guy or that woman who died in spite of a vaccine (with zero context about age, immuncompromised status, whether they are a non-seroconverter, or what vaccine they even had.....because you know NONE of these things), please tell me how many unvaccinated are being hospitalized and dying daily?

I get it. You don't want to hurt the legitimacy of the story running non-stop in your head. I'm sure there's a kettle bell to be lifted somewhere.

You understand technology and understanding of what it does has changed a great deal over time, yes? At no point in time was absolute immunity ever a thing. Perhaps they updated definitions based on that knowledge.

And minus the vaccine or natural infection, you are still more than twice as likely to be come infected with Covid. It reduces likelihood of infection and thereby transmission.

I’m out, dude. You’re all-in on whatever political worship it is you’re engaged in. Have fun with it. I’m here for football. Peace.

Okay, champ.

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