re: COVID Spike at UGA

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Specifically, it appears that there was no plan or strategic design around what to do with excess doses during the initial rollout leading to many doses being thrown away/discarded. So much so that a group of private citizens literally created a waiting list for allowing people to get "last minute" opportunities to prevent this from happening. HiDrB
I'd call that a pretty big miss.

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I want to make sure I understand you... Warp Speed delivered too many doses?

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Functionally, it seems that the strategy was delegated to the individual states

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The only strategy of substance that was delegated to states was the decision on who was first in line. Pretty much all of them did the same thing- elderly and healthcare workers and first responders/cops etc first, then teachers, then everyone.

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wide discrepancy in vaccine delivery between different states (even per capita modified for age/qualified access) would lend support that idea.

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Please share. There could be other factors involved here. The leading distributor (not manufacturer, but distributor) had five new warehouses set up as staging areas around the country, in addition to some existing warehouse space that was utilized- that's one possible skew point. Example- all of Alabama and SC's doses are in a warehouse in Atlanta, for example. All of Arkansas and Mizzou's doses are sitting in Memphis, for example. I would like to see this data you refer to.

The left can gaslight all they want but Trump knew how to get shite done quickly. Its how he made his name way back in the day.

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The left can gaslight all they want

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But Fib's news sources seem to call it a botched operation because Trump was too concerned with the election. And the saddest part is that a smart person like Fib believes them.

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Jesus Christ... this place is absolutely incapable of having a conversation without dipping into "they disagree with me, so they are clearly [insert directional political leaning of opposite persuasion]".

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I want to make sure I understand you... Warp Speed delivered too many doses?

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If this is what you took away, you're either dumber than I've given you credit for over the years or you're being intentionally obtuse.

You answered the problem further down in your post:
"The only strategy of substance that was delegated to states was the decision on who was first in line. Pretty much all of them did the same thing- elderly and healthcare workers and first responders/cops etc first, then teachers, then everyone."

It wasn't just a matter of who was first in line, it's how the processing of that line would be handled. If you fail to account for people not showing up for scheduled vaccinations (there was not a surplus of vaccine relative to the demand, there was simply a surplus of vaccine relative to who was told they could get one at that time). Failure to plan for real world scenarios is a failure in logistics. Not just in getting vaccines to a location, but in administering vaccines to the public. Relying on states and local DPH to get that right and saying "we got the shots there" is not successful management IMHO. As I said before, I don't have first hand experience so happy to be educated where I have a fundamental misunderstanding, but it seems that you agree with me that it was a choice of the Federal Government to delegate that to the states/localities.

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Please share. There could be other factors involved here. The leading distributor (not manufacturer, but distributor) had five new warehouses set up as staging areas around the country, in addition to some existing warehouse space that was utilized- that's one possible skew point. Example- all of Alabama and SC's doses are in a warehouse in Atlanta, for example. All of Arkansas and Mizzou's doses are sitting in Memphis, for example. I would like to see this data you refer to.

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I'll look to see if I can find anything, we're quite a ways removed from vaccine deliveries in January, so most of my commentary is of course reliant on my memory of what I read at that time and the immediate period after. At the end of the day, you and I are likely to disagree and I'm ok with that, but what is the rationale for your approach here? Do you want actual discussion or do you want to try and "prove yourself right"? Because if it's just the latter, by all means chalk one up in the win column and I can move on... it just doesn't matter that much to me.

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Not just in getting vaccines to a location, but in administering vaccines to the public. Relying on states and local DPH to get that right and saying "we got the shots there" is not successful management IMHO. [..........] it seems that you agree with me that it was a choice of the Federal Government to delegate that to the states/localities.

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What was the federal government's alternative?

Is this what the Trump administration should have said, had they not been so preoccupied with the election? :

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Hey you states, with your own health departments and facilities and dr's and nurses and parameds and parapros, hang back while we, the federal government, come in and take over the administration of the vaccines (with what resources we don't know, maybe military) in all 50 of you. Because we, the federal government, don't trust that you'll all get it right- you might not have a plan for surplus vaccines due to appointment no-shows, for instance.

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Is that really your position? I have probed you on this several times now and you aren't really saying anything substantive that I can't easily and logically wipe off the board with common sense. I'm not trying to fight you. You have made some statements that I find very inconsistent with what I know to be true, so I have simply asked for some links or something. Some of the stuff you've said I have never even heard before. Where is some of this stuff coming from?

One thing in a time of war but that was a surgical strike that was a clusterf**** from the get go. So bad and you had Biden strutting around like he actually killed isis only to find out it was 7 kids.

The entire chain of command on this should resign on such a horrible screw up.

Democrats seem good at it, though this seems worse, far worse. You have to know who and what you are shooting at.

Over the Horizon capabilities require more competence than the current leaders are capable of.

Can some admin anchor remove this thread already? It gets old thinking there might actually be a UGA football related COVID comment or update and it always ends up being just another post spewing someone’s political bullshite.

Agree.

People are damaged.