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re: Covid In Georgia - 2021 The Reckoning

Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by Dawgman77
Statham
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:35 pm to
Thanks for the info S1C. Good read and makes this 66 year old feel better.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:29 am to
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Thanks for the info S1C. Good read and makes this 66 year old feel better.


Of course. I know a lot of what people hear is concerning, if not outright scary, sometimes and it's difficult to know what to make of the numbers you hear if you don't spend a lot of time analyzing data already. All of this already made sense to me, but given what I see posted all over social media, it seems not everyone understands how to interpret what they're seeing or the context in which these things are happening.

Another good read about the seemingly high percentage of vaccinated people in the hospital in the UK can be found here: LINK. What was quickly (and erroneously) reported as 40% of people in the hospital being "double vaxxed" is actually far from true. And of the ones who are, we don't know age, which vaccine they got, how long after dose two they became ill, whether they are immunocompromised, or whether they are non-seroconverters, all of which are highly important details when we're talking about evaluating the efficacy of the vaccines. All told, they are still holding up remarkably well and doing what they were designed to do.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64023 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 2:26 pm to
Under 18 demographic about to shoot into #1 for daily new cases in GA.

Blue line.

Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21802 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:15 pm to
Do you have a metric that shows what percentage of each age group is getting tested?

Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate


You think so? I was sorta leaning in the opposite direction. Too many parents don't want to "contribute to the numbers" and need that daycare. A positive test and they're out of work for a while.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7005 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:45 pm to
The 0-18 group includes 0-11 who can't get vaccinated. If vaccination prevents a percentage of infections the youngest group might be expected to have more infections. School just compounds the problem.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64023 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:50 pm to
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The 0-18 group includes 0-11 who can't get vaccinated. If vaccination prevents a percentage of infections the youngest group might be expected to have more infections. School just compounds the problem


Broken down by age among the 0-17 demographic. The vax-eligible pop is leading the way, but the non-eligible pop isn't far behind.

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:53 pm to
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Broken down by age among the 0-17 demographic. The vax-eligible pop is leading the way, but the non-eligible pop isn't far behind.


Probably low vax rates for 12+ in GA, not sure. Combine that with both of those age groups being heavier breathers shedding more virus and I think it makes sense. Putting them all together in cramped classrooms and cafeterias isn't helping. My daughter's school JUST decided to rotate the lunches in the cafeteria yesterday, three weeks into the year.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64023 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:54 pm to
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Do you have a metric that shows what percentage of each age group is getting tested?

Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate


I do not. And I'm not sure what difference it makes- if they are being tested at a higher rate it is because they have a reason to be tested at a higher rate. A parent doesn't take their kid to get a covid test on whimsy.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64023 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:58 pm to
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My daughter's school JUST decided to rotate the lunches in the cafeteria yesterday, three weeks into the year.


Even that won't make a difference, it is an airborne aerosolized viral load. Closing the schools is the only effective method of preventing the spread among children. But at this point what difference does it make, it's probably a good thing they are all petri-dishing together while the virus is still very benign in children. Was it you or Fib who had the neighbor with the buddy at the hospital that showed there was more RSV kids in hospital than Rona, I would like to see an updated graph from that fake person.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21802 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:44 pm to
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And I'm not sure what difference it makes- if they are being tested at a higher rate it is because they have a reason to be tested at a higher rate. A parent doesn't take their kid to get a covid test on whimsy.


Lets say you have a kid in a classroom of 20 kids gets COVID...10 of the parents are responsible parents and go get their kids tested. Of those 10, 5 others have COVID. However, none of the parents test, because they know their kid has it and are quarantining anyways.

You now have 6, 7 year olds that have tested positive and 0 30-39 year olds testing. Now multiply it out.

You also have a large group of parents that will never test themselves in general because they dont want to test positive themselves and their kids having to be out of school, or themselves being out of work.

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:10 pm to
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Was it you or Fib who had the neighbor with the buddy at the hospital that showed there was more RSV kids in hospital than Rona


Musta been Fib.

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I would like to see an updated graph from that fake person.


Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:20 am to
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Only question i have:And by the way, full FDA approval is forthcoming in a matter of weeks

I have been hearing this for a couple of months. What is the hold up? What needs to happen for approval that we dont have yet?



LINK

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41680 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:15 am to
If this whole mess wasn't so politicized from the get-go, an FDA approval might mean something to me.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7005 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:48 am to
The gold standard of safety isn't FDA approval. Never has been. Widespread public use over time with efficacy and without significant adverse reactions will always be the standard. The FDA is almost as fraudulent as the CDC.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Was it you or Fib who had the neighbor with the buddy at the hospital that showed there was more RSV kids in hospital than Rona, I would like to see an updated graph from that fake person.


The neighbor works at the hospital... he's just a pediatric GI doc... his friend works the ped. ICU thus the shared content. I'm not sure why you're so hung up on it... believe me, don't believe me... it really matters not.

Haven't seen anything from him recently, but pinged him. Will update here if I get anything.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64023 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:27 pm to
'preesh.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64023 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:48 pm to
I started retracking daily new hospitalizations for covid in GA on Jul 27.

Only three weeks of data tracked so far-

The average of the first seven days is 160.

The average of the last seven days is 232.

Hospitalizations are rising, steadily, but not "spiking" or "skyrocketing"..... yet.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25609 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:55 pm to
Good info. Thanks
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:21 pm to
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