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Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:29 am to Dawgman77
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Thanks for the info S1C. Good read and makes this 66 year old feel better.
Of course. I know a lot of what people hear is concerning, if not outright scary, sometimes and it's difficult to know what to make of the numbers you hear if you don't spend a lot of time analyzing data already. All of this already made sense to me, but given what I see posted all over social media, it seems not everyone understands how to interpret what they're seeing or the context in which these things are happening.
Another good read about the seemingly high percentage of vaccinated people in the hospital in the UK can be found here: LINK. What was quickly (and erroneously) reported as 40% of people in the hospital being "double vaxxed" is actually far from true. And of the ones who are, we don't know age, which vaccine they got, how long after dose two they became ill, whether they are immunocompromised, or whether they are non-seroconverters, all of which are highly important details when we're talking about evaluating the efficacy of the vaccines. All told, they are still holding up remarkably well and doing what they were designed to do.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 2:26 pm to S1C EM
Under 18 demographic about to shoot into #1 for daily new cases in GA.
Blue line.
Blue line.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:15 pm to deeprig9
Do you have a metric that shows what percentage of each age group is getting tested?
Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate
Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:20 pm to IT_Dawg
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Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate
You think so? I was sorta leaning in the opposite direction. Too many parents don't want to "contribute to the numbers" and need that daycare. A positive test and they're out of work for a while.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:45 pm to S1C EM
The 0-18 group includes 0-11 who can't get vaccinated. If vaccination prevents a percentage of infections the youngest group might be expected to have more infections. School just compounds the problem.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:50 pm to Whiznot
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The 0-18 group includes 0-11 who can't get vaccinated. If vaccination prevents a percentage of infections the youngest group might be expected to have more infections. School just compounds the problem
Broken down by age among the 0-17 demographic. The vax-eligible pop is leading the way, but the non-eligible pop isn't far behind.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:53 pm to deeprig9
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Broken down by age among the 0-17 demographic. The vax-eligible pop is leading the way, but the non-eligible pop isn't far behind.
Probably low vax rates for 12+ in GA, not sure. Combine that with both of those age groups being heavier breathers shedding more virus and I think it makes sense. Putting them all together in cramped classrooms and cafeterias isn't helping. My daughter's school JUST decided to rotate the lunches in the cafeteria yesterday, three weeks into the year.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:54 pm to IT_Dawg
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Do you have a metric that shows what percentage of each age group is getting tested?
Have a feeling 0-18 are getting tested at a higher rate
I do not. And I'm not sure what difference it makes- if they are being tested at a higher rate it is because they have a reason to be tested at a higher rate. A parent doesn't take their kid to get a covid test on whimsy.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:58 pm to S1C EM
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My daughter's school JUST decided to rotate the lunches in the cafeteria yesterday, three weeks into the year.
Even that won't make a difference, it is an airborne aerosolized viral load. Closing the schools is the only effective method of preventing the spread among children. But at this point what difference does it make, it's probably a good thing they are all petri-dishing together while the virus is still very benign in children. Was it you or Fib who had the neighbor with the buddy at the hospital that showed there was more RSV kids in hospital than Rona, I would like to see an updated graph from that fake person.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:44 pm to deeprig9
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And I'm not sure what difference it makes- if they are being tested at a higher rate it is because they have a reason to be tested at a higher rate. A parent doesn't take their kid to get a covid test on whimsy.
Lets say you have a kid in a classroom of 20 kids gets COVID...10 of the parents are responsible parents and go get their kids tested. Of those 10, 5 others have COVID. However, none of the parents test, because they know their kid has it and are quarantining anyways.
You now have 6, 7 year olds that have tested positive and 0 30-39 year olds testing. Now multiply it out.
You also have a large group of parents that will never test themselves in general because they dont want to test positive themselves and their kids having to be out of school, or themselves being out of work.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:10 pm to deeprig9
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Was it you or Fib who had the neighbor with the buddy at the hospital that showed there was more RSV kids in hospital than Rona
Musta been Fib.
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I would like to see an updated graph from that fake person.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:15 am to S1C EM
If this whole mess wasn't so politicized from the get-go, an FDA approval might mean something to me.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:48 am to FooManChoo
The gold standard of safety isn't FDA approval. Never has been. Widespread public use over time with efficacy and without significant adverse reactions will always be the standard. The FDA is almost as fraudulent as the CDC.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:51 pm to deeprig9
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Was it you or Fib who had the neighbor with the buddy at the hospital that showed there was more RSV kids in hospital than Rona, I would like to see an updated graph from that fake person.
The neighbor works at the hospital... he's just a pediatric GI doc... his friend works the ped. ICU thus the shared content. I'm not sure why you're so hung up on it... believe me, don't believe me... it really matters not.
Haven't seen anything from him recently, but pinged him. Will update here if I get anything.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:48 pm to deeprig9
I started retracking daily new hospitalizations for covid in GA on Jul 27.
Only three weeks of data tracked so far-
The average of the first seven days is 160.
The average of the last seven days is 232.
Hospitalizations are rising, steadily, but not "spiking" or "skyrocketing"..... yet.
Only three weeks of data tracked so far-
The average of the first seven days is 160.
The average of the last seven days is 232.
Hospitalizations are rising, steadily, but not "spiking" or "skyrocketing"..... yet.
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