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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave

Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
362 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

My lungs aren't a problem. Weed isn't like cigarettes. Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps were both potheads. Those legends never suffered from diminished lung capacity and neither do I.



I really hope you don't believe that. It might not be a carcinogen but inhaling something foreign into your lungs isn't good for your lungs. Switch to edibles.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7003 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:08 am to
I do both but I get a stronger anti-inflammatory effect from a couple of tokes from a one hitter. It doesn't take much at all.

It's beyond me how anyone could smoke a blunt--I can't even smoke a joint nowadays.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:12 pm to
Update-

The daily new hospitalizations definitely passed a peak, hopefully it won't be a double-peak event. The 7 day moving average this week is 33% lower than the week before, which was lower than the week before that. So while the number is still high, the trend is aiming lower. This is for Georgia only. I don't follow other states or countries.

I also did some demo splits.

did you know-

Georgians under 30 account for 33% of all positive tests, but only account for .008 of the deaths?

The mortality rate for those under 30 is .00048, or expressed as a percentage, .048% mortality. Less than one half of one-tenth of one percent.

And that's not even considering the untold thousands of people under 30 who got CV but never tested. The real mortality rate is, as we already know, much lower.

So anyone who wonders why so many young people don't GAF and want school, bars, football, etc.... now you have the numbers and the numbers support their wishes.

Science!
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

The daily new hospitalizations definitely passed a peak, hopefully it won't be a double-peak event. The 7 day moving average this week is 33% lower than the week before, which was lower than the week before that. So while the number is still high, the trend is aiming lower. This is for Georgia only. I don't follow other states or countries.

I also did some demo splits.

did you know-

Georgians under 30 account for 33% of all positive tests, but only account for .008 of the deaths?


That's good news. How about 40 to 31?

Also, both Athens hospitals were fully diverting again yesterday or the day before. What the hell is going on?

Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4980 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:30 pm to
Just spitballing here, but is there a possibility its a weird space/beds ratio that doesn’t allow them to “safely” use all of the available beds due to an inability to just shove all the Covid folks is a smaller area and leave the rest of the space for other types of conditions? I’m not in the medical profession and have zero knowledge of the logistics, but wonder if some weird arse social distancing mandate inside hospital patient areas is part of the problem.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Just spitballing here, but is there a possibility its a weird space/beds ratio that doesn’t allow them to “safely” use all of the available beds due to an inability to just shove all the Covid folks is a smaller area and leave the rest of the space for other types of conditions? I’m not in the medical profession and have zero knowledge of the logistics, but wonder if some weird arse social distancing mandate inside hospital patient areas is part of the problem.


It's a good question. I'll have to see if the docs in my wife's office have elaborated at all. I suppose it's entirely possible. They finally put it out publicly yesterday that they were "overtaxed".
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:23 pm to
The hospital overcrowded thing stinks to high heaven. I'll tell you why, in brief.

In April they all said they were overwhelmed.

For the last month, daily new hospitalizations have been more than double the April numbers.

Yet here they are saying they are getting overwhelmed again.

They were either lying then or lying now or both.

By the way, "diverting" is a normal hospital practice, it didn't just start with CV.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14180 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

but is there a possibility its a weird space/beds ratio that doesn’t allow them to “safely” use all of the available beds due to an inability to just shove all the Covid folks is a smaller area and leave the rest of the space for other types of conditions?


I think you’re spot on.

Hospitals staff and plan to run at near capacity so they don’t have idol employees or beds. You have so many registered beds but this includes maternity, post op, cardiac, ICU, etc. When we look at capacity data it is helpful to know how many beds are occupied by COVID patients vs just regular hospital traffic. Also, for serious patients ICU beds are a small percentage of total bed capacity.

I’m sure they retasked beds where they could for COVID patients but you can’t just throw them into these other sections without risking everyone else.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

In April they all said they were overwhelmed.

For the last month, daily new hospitalizations have been more than double the April numbers.

Yet here they are saying they are getting overwhelmed again.

They were either lying then or lying now or both.


So I do recall the April cries for help, which I think was the hospitals trying to make people aware that there would be an issue if it didn’t slow down. I asked my wife and she said her doctors were not really concerned in April and that’s pretty much what I recall from then. They weren’t warning their staff. They definitely are concerned now. Those who said they were full in April were not being honest, I would agree.

quote:

By the way, "diverting" is a normal hospital practice, it didn't just start with CV.


I understand this. But they were not having to divert COVID patients until just recently and it’s not just ours that has the issue. If you’ll recall, I mentioned last week that the 15 other closest hospitals equipped to handle COVID were also diverting those patients. So....if you get COVID right now in Athens and you draw the short straw and are one of the ones who needs intervention, you may be shite out of luck.

New, I asked about whether this had to do with the lack of specialized beds or lack of beds in general and she believes it is a combination of specialized beds and the staff necessary to treat these folks. They don’t have enough of either, which is something I think we’ve known for a while. Again, just a PSA. Take whatever preventative measures you’re comfortable with and do your best to stay well for the time being.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:38 pm to
My mom just tested positive for the Rona and I just spent the weekend at my parents house. My dad and I just got tested today. I think I'll have the results by Wednesday. My dad says he's feeling a little off today and my throat is a little scratchy. I think I got it.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7003 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 2:15 pm to
Good luck to all three of you. If you are interested in monitoring your blood oxygen level there is a pulse oximeter smartphone app available. I haven't tried it though.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Good luck to all three of you. If you are interested in monitoring your blood oxygen level there is a pulse oximeter smartphone app available. I haven't tried it though


Thanks, i'm not too worried about it though. My mom is doing quite well. But I do love how I didn't make a single political statement in my post, yet I was still downvoted.
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7448 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 2:30 pm to
I personally downvoted you. It was meant to be a "oh bummer" type of downvote. Didn't want to upvote someone getting the Rona.

Can't speak for whoever number two was... But mine had nothing to do with politics or whatever. It was a supportive downvote! LoL
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 3:20 pm to
July 27 high point of 297 daily new hospitalizations (7 day average).

Three straight weeks of declines.

We're looking good folks.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 3:34 pm to
It's weird.
My county is having a spike. We flew under the radar for months.
In 9 days, we've gone from 378 to 528 confirmed cases. 51 to 60 hospitalizations.

I don't have the actual numbers, but I believe we went from about 290 to 378 confirmes cases in the 2 weeks prior to my 9 day tally.

My best guess is school opening up fall sports 3 weeks ago and class 12 days ago.

I dont think anyone's health is in jeopardy. But for those with at-risk in their family, it is time to hunker down and let the spread work its course.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:54 pm to
What concerns me is that we had this second wave in the heat of summer, when all the experts left and right said it would basically be dormant and any second wave would be in the fall. This summer wave came before any schools were back in session. Most offices are still locked down with people working from home. At least half the GA population is still wearing masks when they go out, and it's policy at every grocery store and most other businesses. Hand sanitizer all over the place.

But coronavirus didn't give a frick.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:32 am to
It looks like my county has plateaued with covid. The per cap numbers are awful. But the concern of an exponential explosion is subsiding.

We went from about 3-5 cases per week to 100 per week around the time that schools started fall sports. A couple of weeks later, school opened up with about 90% of students in class. The good news is that the weekly total just dropped to 86 and the weekly average off of 2 weeks figures is down to 98.

Weekly cases per 100k are still just under 800 (we are a small county) so we still look among the worst counties in the state right now. But the plateau helps me think that this virus still has natural barriers to spreading.

We have our kids spending a ton of time with their grandparents and for that reason, we have shut down sports and are signed up for online classes the full semester. It will still be a conversation with a tough decision, but I am starting to get hopeful for winter sports and a return to activities offline.

As for Georgia, it pains me to see the daily fatality numbers so high. But the overall outlook has been positive recently.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4980 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:54 am to
I sent my kids back to school because the risks to them are minuscule and my youngest is autistic and needs the face to face instruction. A week in and the little guy gets an ear infection, and now all three kids have to have a negative test before they can return to school and I can’t go back to work until negative test results are provided to my employer...long story short, I didn’t consider the inconvenience to my livelihood when I sent them back to school. Now I have to consider pulling them back home for the semester, if I can.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7003 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:42 pm to
Hopefully, you can get test results back in a hurry. The lack of quick and accessible COVID testing is a big reason why we are in this terrible situation.
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